IPL ... Speeds and Performances of Pacers and Spinners ....

[speedheat]

3 minutes ago, Adamant said:

Chahal bhi to khelega. 

Chaar tailenders ho jaenge. 

Spinner is not require in Australia, especially against asian sides and WI.

 

 

[Adamant]

4 minutes ago, speedheat said:

Spinner is not require in Australia, especially against asian sides and WI.

 

 

Highly unlikely that we will go with a pace only bowling attack. 

 

[express bowling]

41 minutes ago, speedheat said:

Pandya is an all-rounder and 3 pure  quick bowlers are must in Australia.

 

6. Pandya

7. Jadeja

8. Harshal

9. Bumrah

10. Umran

11. Prasidh 

 

Can work in T20s on those pitches in Australia where extra pace and bounce are needed.

 

Batting till 8 .. 3 pure quicks .. 2 good death bowlers .. 2 good opening bowlers for Australia .. 6 bowling options.

Edited April 17, 2022 by express bowling

[Adamant]

Just now, express bowling said:

 

6. Pandya

7. Jadeja

8. Harshal

9. Bumrah

10. Umran

11. Prasidh 

 

Can work in T20s in Australia.

 

Batting till 8 .. 3 pure quicks .. 2 good death bowlers .. 2 good opening bowlers for Australia .. 6 bowling options.

In Australia a leg spinner is mandatory. 

 

I think we are over estimating the impact of bounce in Aus, their pitches are quite flat and I am sure the world cup is gonna be a run fest. 

 

Jadeja is a poor spinner in t20s and going with him as a lone spinner is a bad strategy. 

 

Also Prasidh isn't really a good t20 bowler as of now, he is good for odis and can do well in tests. 

[Forward Defence]

1 minute ago, express bowling said:

 

6. Pandya

7. Jadeja

8. Harshal

9. Bumrah

10. Umran

11. Prasidh 

 

Can work in T20s in Australia.

 

Batting till 8 .. 3 pure quicks .. 2 good death bowlers .. 2 good opening bowlers for Australia .. 6 bowling options.

One among Natarajan,Arshdeep or Khaleel might also be kept in the squad as a left arm option. Khaleel has been pretty good with the new ball while Natarajan and Arshdeep are good at the death.

[Suhaan]

30 minutes ago, speedheat said:

G@@ fat jayegi oppositions key if we play bumrah, prasidh, umran, Pandya in Australia.

But I'm confident that with Captain Chanakya and Chwet dravid we'll see Harshal, Bhubi Bhabi, Chahar, and possibly Dube in our attack.

Sapna ho jayega sakaar agar Sakaria ki bh entry ho jayegi

[Suhaan]

10 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

6. Pandya

7. Jadeja

8. Harshal

9. Bumrah

10. Umran

11. Prasidh 

 

Can work in T20s in Australia.

 

Batting till 8 .. 3 pure quicks .. 2 good death bowlers .. 2 good opening bowlers for Australia .. 6 bowling options.

Would like to add one out of Kuldeep/Chahal maybe in place of Jadeja or one trundler

[Lone Wolf]

7 minutes ago, Adamant said:

In Australia a leg spinner is mandatory. 

 

I think we are over estimating the impact of bounce in Aus, their pitches are quite flat and I am sure the world cup is gonna be a run fest. 

 

Jadeja is a poor spinner in t20s and going with him as a lone spinner is a bad strategy. 

 

Also Prasidh isn't really a good t20 bowler as of now, he is good for odis and can do well in tests. 

While I agree that Dudeja is just pathetic...  But we are playing Pak in MCG & SA in Optus Perth..  Both are quite pacy in nature especially Perth. 

Two main opponents on faster grounds..  Not Sydney or flat Adelaide or Canberra. 

[Suhaan]

7 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

While I agree that Dudeja is just pathetic...  But we are playing Pak in MCG & SA in Optus Perth..  Both are quite pacy in nature especially Perth. 

Two main opponents on faster grounds..  Not Sydney or flat Adelaide or Canberra. 

All of them might grip , early summer will set in

Yes i agree against Pak we need to go with all genuine pace

Edited April 17, 2022 by Suhaan

[express bowling]

52 minutes ago, Adamant said:

In Australia a leg spinner is mandatory. 

 

I think we are over estimating the impact of bounce in Aus, their pitches are quite flat and I am sure the world cup is gonna be a run fest. 

 

Jadeja is a poor spinner in t20s and going with him as a lone spinner is a bad strategy. 

 

Also Prasidh isn't really a good t20 bowler as of now, he is good for odis and can do well in tests. 

 

This 11 is for pitches which aid pace and bounce.

 

Chahal will be in the squad and can replace one of the younger quicks on pitches where he is needed. 

 

Prasidh has actually been very good in the PP overs and there are Bumrah and Harshal for death bowling.

 

 

Edited April 17, 2022 by express bowling

[Suhaan]

@Jay
what exactly is weather conditions like in Australia ,oct/Nov?

Is it start of 'dry pitch' conditions,mix?

[Jay]

2 minutes ago, Suhaan said:

@Jay
what exactly is weather conditions like in Australia ,oct/Nov?

Is it start of 'dry pitch' conditions,mix?

Bro weather here is weird. It can be sunny one day. Then rains the next with floods and hail. 

In general, October November would be spring ish. December is summer. 

October November December should be hot. With rain Interspersed randomly. 

[Jay]

11 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

This 11 is for pitches which aid pace and bounce.

 

Chahal will be in the squad and can replace on the the younger quicks on pitches where he is needed. 

 

 

Bro you are overestimating the bounce for t20 here in Australia. It will be patta pitches. Remember what india got for odi series in Australia in 2020? 350 plus scores. It will be those ones. Good batsmen with nice pull shots, cut shots will thrive here. Bounce will be there but not too much for t20. 

Definitely need pace. Pace is key. Need only ONE SPINNER. ONE. 

[Lone Wolf]

18 minutes ago, Jay said:

Bro you are overestimating the bounce for t20 here in Australia. It will be patta pitches. Remember what india got for odi series in Australia in 2020? 350 plus scores. It will be those ones. Good batsmen with nice pull shots, cut shots will thrive here. Bounce will be there but not too much for t20. 

Definitely need pace. Pace is key. Need only ONE SPINNER. ONE. 

Not a necessarily..  We played in Sydney & Canberra.  Known for flat pitches

In WC 2015..  We played against WI in Perth &,  that pitch had a lot of bounce.  We witnessed a low scoring thriller.  CB series prior to that was played in Brisbane & MCG & low scoring games happened. 

Ind vs Aus decider ODI in MCG 2018..  Pitch had a lot of life..  Another low scoring thriller. 

Edited April 17, 2022 by Lone Wolf

[Mosher]

Hangargekar still not getting a game. Surely he can't do worse than Mukesh and others.

[Jay]

2 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

Not a necessarily..  We played in Sydney & Canberra.  Known for flat pitches

In WC 2015..  We played against WI in Perth &,  that pitch had a lot of bounce.  We witnessed a low scoring thriller.  CB series prior to that was played in Brisbane & MCG & low scoring games happened. 

Ind vs Aus decider ODI in MCG 2018..  Pitch had a lot of life..  Another low scoring thriller. 

Sydney brizzy Canberra will be flat. 

 

Mcg Perth surprisingly Hobart are all bouncy. But still on the flatter side for LoI. They have to accommodate for afl and stupid rugby league. 

[express bowling]

22 minutes ago, Jay said:

Bro you are overestimating the bounce for t20 here in Australia. It will be patta pitches. Remember what india got for odi series in Australia in 2020? 350 plus scores. It will be those ones. Good batsmen with nice pull shots, cut shots will thrive here. Bounce will be there but not too much for t20. 

Definitely need pace. Pace is key. Need only ONE SPINNER. ONE. 

 

IIRC  2 of those 3 T20I matches were in Sydney. The slowest and lowest pitch in Australia.   (  Adelaide can be sluggish on occasions too )

 

The Canberra pitch in that series was not bad.

 

I expect a lot of pitches this time to be both bouncy as well as true bounce. Bowling quickly in good areas will help. Accuracy has to be there along with pace and bounce.

 

 

Edited April 17, 2022 by express bowling

[nsareen]

Not sure what CSK think tank are smoking before the game.. Why can’t they give a game to Hangargekar.. this attitude doesn’t go well with youngsters… you keep playing dad’s army, and making a statement, if you are not old enough you are not good enough


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[express bowling]

6 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

Not a necessarily..  We played in Sydney & Canberra.  Known for flat pitches

In WC 2015..  We played against WI in Perth &,  that pitch had a lot of bounce.  We witnessed a low scoring thriller.  CB series prior to that was played in Brisbane & MCG & low scoring games happened. 

Ind vs Aus decider ODI in MCG 2018..  Pitch had a lot of life..  Another low scoring thriller. 

 

 

Exactly !

 

If our selectors build the squad based on the perception of those Sydney pitches in late 2020 then we will be in for a tough time.

 

A squad for multi-conditions and choosing the 11 based on the pitch, maybe the key. 

 

 

 

[Lone Wolf]

4 minutes ago, Jay said:

Sydney brizzy Canberra will be flat. 

 

Mcg Perth surprisingly Hobart are all bouncy. But still on the flatter side for LoI. They have to accommodate for afl and stupid rugby league. 

Hobart has a lot seam movement but no games there for super league fixtures. 

MCG can be bipolar & u never know what u will get.  Perth sure as hell will be fast.  Test match pitch in 2018 vs India was super super fast.   ODIs played there have offered great bounce too.