express bowling Posted April 24, 2022 Author Posted April 24, 2022 5 hours ago, Vijy said: He could be a bit quicker than Bumrah. I know Boom has a 152-153 delivery, but Umran can go beyond that on faster pitches than current IPL (which are somewhat decent for pace). Not talking about exact release speeds but the effect on batsmen Bumrah releases the ball well past the bowling crease and hence has the effect of releasing the ball around 6 kph faster as the distance is shortened ( according to a study ). He generally bowls 135 k to 147 k these days ( which is still very good ) but the " heat " felt by batsmen is much more. Suhaan, Vijy and Mosher 3
Jay Posted April 24, 2022 Posted April 24, 2022 2 hours ago, express bowling said: Not talking about exact release speeds but the effect on batsmen Bumrah releases the ball well past the bowling crease and hence has the effect of releasing the ball around 6 kph faster as the distance is shortened ( according to a study ). He generally bowls 135 k to 147 k these days ( which is still very good ) but the " heat " felt by batsmen is much more. But what would his speeds be in a 30 plus over innings over 5 days?
express bowling Posted April 24, 2022 Author Posted April 24, 2022 4 minutes ago, Jay said: But what would his speeds be in a 30 plus over innings over 5 days? Whose ?
Adamant Posted April 24, 2022 Posted April 24, 2022 We never had an express pacer, that's the reality. We had many fast bowlers though. Aaron doesn't even qualify considering he hardly played, Umesh was never express, he was Dale Steyn level fast at best and Steyn isn't an express pacer. As for Srinath, lol. Bumrah is again a fast bowler but calling him express would be delusional. Shami was a fast bowler at his peak but never express. SandeepMotta and speedster 2
rkt.india Posted April 24, 2022 Posted April 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Adamant said: We never had an express pacer, that's the reality. We had many fast bowlers though. Aaron doesn't even qualify considering he hardly played, Umesh was never express, he was Dale Steyn level fast at best and Steyn isn't an express pacer. As for Srinath, lol. Bumrah is again a fast bowler but calling him express would be delusional. Shami was a fast bowler at his peak but never express. We only have had 3 true express pacers in last 30 years. Brett Lee, Akhtar, Tait. Who else?
Lone Wolf Posted April 24, 2022 Posted April 24, 2022 8 minutes ago, rkt.india said: We only have had 3 true express pacers in last 30 years. Brett Lee, Akhtar, Tait. Who else? Lockie when arrived was pretty rapid almost like Lee. He has slowed down a bit due to injuries but still hurls close to 150k or over it occasionally. Haris Rauf peaked in WT20 with his pace.. I saw a ball at 152kph in India game but was slower in recent Australia series. Doull was comparing Umran with Rauf yesterday. Both came from Tape ball bowling.
speedheat Posted April 24, 2022 Posted April 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Adamant said: We never had an express pacer, that's the reality. We had many fast bowlers though. Aaron doesn't even qualify considering he hardly played, Umesh was never express, he was Dale Steyn level fast at best and Steyn isn't an express pacer. As for Srinath, lol. Bumrah is again a fast bowler but calling him express would be delusional. Shami was a fast bowler at his peak but never express. Then who bowled express? Waqa?wasim ? Zahid? Lmao SandeepMotta, Mosher and Suhaan 2 1
Lone Wolf Posted April 24, 2022 Posted April 24, 2022 Right now in Asia I'll go with this ranking Umran Rauf (I'll put him at 2 coz he ain't young anymore wasn't cranking it up in recent Aus series) Kumara Naseem/Tyagi (but Tyagi is tall & naturally more talented) Shaheen = Chameera = Bumrah
Jay Posted April 24, 2022 Posted April 24, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, express bowling said: Whose ? Umran. We should use him sparingly. Like 2 over spell. Similar to how England uses wood in tests. Quick couple of 2 over spells. Rest. Repeat when energised again. Edited April 24, 2022 by Jay
Jay Posted April 24, 2022 Posted April 24, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Adamant said: We never had an express pacer, that's the reality. We had many fast bowlers though. Aaron doesn't even qualify considering he hardly played, Umesh was never express, he was Dale Steyn level fast at best and Steyn isn't an express pacer. As for Srinath, lol. Bumrah is again a fast bowler but calling him express would be delusional. Shami was a fast bowler at his peak but never express. Question is not about express. Even shoaib chewt only bowled 145 on average. At best. Starc is supposedly the fastest in the world. He averages 142 143 in tests. Even Lee never bowled 150 consistently in tests. Well if you want to be in the hospital then sure go ahead. Max is 145 average for Even express pacers. We always had fast bowlers. But this midget pot bellied chowdder head twat gavaskar and that anorexic harsha bitch acts like we never had fast bowlers at all. We have produced many fast bowlers since sirnath. Dale steyn level fast bowlers I.e. How many *inf express pacers pakistam have? One. Mo sami was 145 on average. Those speed guns were dodgy as he'll. When he bowled, batsmen had so much time to play shots. Edited April 24, 2022 by Jay SandeepMotta 1
Jay Posted April 24, 2022 Posted April 24, 2022 28 minutes ago, rkt.india said: We only have had 3 true express pacers in last 30 years. Brett Lee, Akhtar, Tait. Who else? Tait played how many games? It's a joke to call him a test player. Only Lee played a fair bit ans that's due to his beautiful action. He is just fortunate In that regard.
Jay Posted April 24, 2022 Posted April 24, 2022 20 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said: Lockie when arrived was pretty rapid almost like Lee. He has slowed down a bit due to injuries but still hurls close to 150k or over it occasionally. Haris Rauf peaked in WT20 with his pace.. I saw a ball at 152kph in India game but was slower in recent Australia series. Doull was comparing Umran with Rauf yesterday. Both came from Tape ball bowling. None of the can do it in tests without collapsing. Maybe umran with bis strong physique could? Perhaps. We shall see. Wood is the only express pacer right now with maybe starc. I consider 143 plus on average express.
Jay Posted April 24, 2022 Posted April 24, 2022 21 minutes ago, speedheat said: Then who bowled express? Waqa?wasim ? Zahid? Lmao Waqar was a 136 average bowler at best. Delusional phony Pakistani kohli tard doesn't know what he is talking about. Wasim was maybe 136-138 Max on average. Ummie khan lowda was 135 Max on average. Zahid hahahah. The mythical atul sharma version of Pakistanies. speedheat and Adamant 1 1
Jay Posted April 24, 2022 Posted April 24, 2022 19 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said: Right now in Asia I'll go with this ranking Umran Rauf (I'll put him at 2 coz he ain't young anymore wasn't cranking it up in recent Aus series) Kumara Naseem/Tyagi (but Tyagi is tall & naturally more talented) Shaheen = Chameera = Bumrah Yes kunara. Forgot about him. Averaged 144 vs India. But only played one test. Kumara Umran looked quick in first class game too. Clocking 140 ish on slow speed guns. Wood 143 -145 on average Starc 143 on average
SandeepMotta Posted April 24, 2022 Posted April 24, 2022 2 hours ago, Adamant said: We never had an express pacer, that's the reality. We had many fast bowlers though. Aaron doesn't even qualify considering he hardly played, Umesh was never express, he was Dale Steyn level fast at best and Steyn isn't an express pacer. As for Srinath, lol. Bumrah is again a fast bowler but calling him express would be delusional. Shami was a fast bowler at his peak but never express. Did you eveb see Srinath bowl? express bowling 1
Adamant Posted April 24, 2022 Posted April 24, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, rkt.india said: We only have had 3 true express pacers in last 30 years. Brett Lee, Akhtar, Tait. Who else? Yes, I am not arguing against that, express pacers are rare. Although Nortje, Mohd Sami, Lockie, Bond,Starc, Johnson(for some time), Donald, Riaz can also be called Express pacers. Edited April 24, 2022 by Adamant
Adamant Posted April 24, 2022 Posted April 24, 2022 1 hour ago, speedheat said: Then who bowled express? Waqa?wasim ? Zahid? Lmao I am not saying Pakistan has produced many express bowlers but India definitely has never produced one. From Pakistan, Shoaib and Mohd Sami qualify as express pacers.
Adamant Posted April 24, 2022 Posted April 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Lone Wolf said: Right now in Asia I'll go with this ranking Umran Rauf (I'll put him at 2 coz he ain't young anymore wasn't cranking it up in recent Aus series) Kumara Naseem/Tyagi (but Tyagi is tall & naturally more talented) Shaheen = Chameera = Bumrah Sorry, but Tyagi doesn't bowl as fast as Naseem, he might be a better bowler but definitely not faster.
Adamant Posted April 24, 2022 Posted April 24, 2022 56 minutes ago, Jay said: Waqar was a 136 average bowler at best. Delusional phony Pakistani kohli tard doesn't know what he is talking about. Wasim was maybe 136-138 Max on average. Ummie khan lowda was 135 Max on average. Zahid hahahah. The mythical atul sharma version of Pakistanies. Did I say Waqar was Express? He was Sharp at his peak (dale steyn speed) but not an express pacer according to me. Although some legends of the game say that he was express pacer at his peak, I am not sure about him tbh. express bowling 1
Adamant Posted April 24, 2022 Posted April 24, 2022 33 minutes ago, SandeepMotta said: Did you eveb see Srinath bowl? Yes. He was swift at his peak, but nowhere near express.
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