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10 minutes ago, express bowling said:

Natarajan will face the same fate as Mohit when a top international batter starts playing with intensity. 

 

nah hes better in terms of nailing yorkers. Even in intl he did well

 

Mohit had just 1 good season even there couldn't finish well

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43 minutes ago, Lord said:

 

nah hes better in terms of nailing yorkers. Even in intl he did well

 

Mohit had just 1 good season even there couldn't finish well

With his height and pace he has to be pin point 6 out of 6...straight under the bat.

An inch here and there and he will be taken for runs.

High pace increases those inches around the yorker area by a bit. Plus even low fulltosses can be effective and hard to hit.

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1 minute ago, singhvivek141 said:

With his height and pace he has to be pin point 6 out of 6...straight under the bat.

An inch here and there and he will be taken for runs.

High pace increases those inches around the yorker area by a bit. Plus even low fulltosses can be effective and hard to hit.

 

yeah I was only comparing to Maulit

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10 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

Bumrah

Harshit

Arshdeep

Mayank 

 

Who's in 11 ?? 

 

If Hardik is not third seamer Ind may have to sit out Rinku.

 

Bhumrah, Singh(bring only LAF) and Hardik are 3 seamers and then 2 spinners, then only Rinku gets into 11.

Else batting gets weaker 

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6 hours ago, tapandrun said:

Who's in 11 ?? 

 

If Hardik is not third seamer Ind may have to sit out Rinku.

 

Bhumrah, Singh(bring only LAF) and Hardik are 3 seamers and then 2 spinners, then only Rinku gets into 11.

Else batting gets weaker 

you don't need 2 spinners. 3 pacers + kuldeep is enough. there will be 2-3 part time options.

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10 hours ago, express bowling said:

Natarajan will face the same fate as Mohit when a top international batter starts playing with intensity. 

People don't understand medium pacers/trundlers should be extremely good hitters of the ball with credentials to score consistently 25-30 runs to compensate for their inability to make things happen Outta nowhere which a 140+-145+ wicket taking pacers can do

Infact I believe each one of the members should have ability to tonk deliveries

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1 hour ago, Vijy said:

you don't need 2 spinners. 3 pacers + kuldeep is enough. there will be 2-3 part time options.

In which case we need to play both Abhishek and Parag for their SLA & legcuts to compliment the chinaman. Both actually merit a place in the 11. But with Rohit, Kohli, Rahul, Pandya and Jadeja they may not even make it to the squad. 

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1 hour ago, JaFanatic said:

In which case we need to play both Abhishek and Parag for their SLA & legcuts to compliment the chinaman. Both actually merit a place in the 11. But with Rohit, Kohli, Rahul, Pandya and Jadeja they may not even make it to the squad. 

Its the same problem again which has been happening for last 3/4 marquee events, Ind bowlers can't bat and batters cannot bowl.

 

When the team be announced some1 will tell, they have talked to Kolhi and Rohit and when needed they will bowl. Should have developed Jaiswal as legspinner he was bowling not long back in age groups, Rinku bowls some off-spinner too. Its just they do not want to develop them.

Not sure by S.Iyer can bowl too.

 

Looks like they donot want to create much competition for senior superstars

 

 

 

 

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11 hours ago, tapandrun said:

Who's in 11 ?? 

 

If Hardik is not third seamer Ind may have to sit out Rinku.

 

Bhumrah, Singh(bring only LAF) and Hardik are 3 seamers and then 2 spinners, then only Rinku gets into 11.

Else batting gets weaker 

 

Hardik is totally out of form. So no point in taking him. 

 

One possible playing 11 is ....

 

1. Rohit .. as he has been chosen captain

2. Abhishek .. spinner 

3. Jaiswal

4. SKY

5. Pant

6. Rinku

7. Dube .. medium pacer 

8. Harshit .. can hit big 

9. Bumrah

10. Kuldeep

11. Mayank 

 

 

12. Samson

13. Pan-less Parag 

14. Axar

15. Arshdeep 

 

.... Bumrah and Harshit can bowl both in PP and at the death.

.... Mayank and Kuldeep will bowl in the middle overs.

.... Abhishek and Dube will share 4 overs.

.... Abhishek should definitely be picked this time. No other Indian can bat at 300+ SR at the top and bowl spin.

.... Dube at 7 lends a lot of depth to the batting. 

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4 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

Hardik is totally out of form. So no point in taking him. 

 

One possible playing 11 is ....

 

1. Rohit .. as he has been chosen captain

2. Abhishek .. spinner 

3. Jaiswal

4. SKY

5. Pant

6. Rinku

7. Dube .. medium pacer 

8. Harshit .. can hit big 

9. Bumrah

10. Kuldeep

11. Mayank 

No Kolhi ...?? by now Kohli and Rohit have become Binary stars figuratively and literally. Either both are in the team or both are dropped

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32 minutes ago, tapandrun said:

No Kolhi ...?? by now Kohli and Rohit have become Binary stars figuratively and literally. Either both are in the team or both are dropped

Can Kohli keep wickets ? Or can he give us 2 proper overs with ball ?

 

If not Kohli then either Rohit or SKY has to take responsibility.

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39 minutes ago, tapandrun said:

No Kolhi ...?? by now Kohli and Rohit have become Binary stars figuratively and literally. Either both are in the team or both are dropped

 

We all know that Kohli will play. And so will Jadeja, Hardik, Mukesh. Rahul may sneak in too.

 

These are just theoretical discussions about possible effective 11s. 

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On 4/23/2024 at 12:36 PM, TellTheTruth said:

 

How is bumrah being consistently shut down when he is averaging low 20s in all 3 formats. Is he supposed to be averaging 10? Which top tier bowler has been more consistent then bumrah across 3 formats in the t20 era? Closest is probably shaheen who stat padded against weak test teams.

Fair point, may b there is nathing may be there is something. IMO there is a pattern emerging. 

It starts same way first ppl think its all good they are top player, there is data to back them up and then slowly we realize there was a problem

 

Or may be just over watching and over analyzing like they through around and talk about clutch genes, being soft, no. of rings, post season game in NBA.

But there has be to some reason Ind has/had ntwin a single ICC title for so long having best ODI players in Rohit, Dhoni, Kolhi, Bhvi, Bhumrah. And there are no teams like Aus for 90-00 and WI of 70- mid 80s

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47 minutes ago, tapandrun said:

Fair point, may b there is nathing may be there is something. IMO there is a pattern emerging. 

It starts same way first ppl think its all good they are top player, there is data to back them up and then slowly we realize there was a problem

 

Or may be just over watching and over analyzing like they through around and talk about clutch genes, being soft, no. of rings, post season game in NBA.

But there has be to some reason Ind has/had ntwin a single ICC title for so long having best ODI players in Rohit, Dhoni, Kolhi, Bhvi, Bhumrah. And there are no teams like Aus for 90-00 and WI of 70- mid 80s

Simply we didn't hold our nerves in the key moments of knockout matches. That's the primary reason why we couldn't win more trophies, we choked when it matters.

 

There other reasons too like stalking the 11 with only accumulators, lack of part time bowlers or bowlers who could bat. Not picking the best team like overlooking Shami for the best odi player Bhuvi for most part. 

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