IPL ... Speeds and Performances of Pacers and Spinners ....

[Suhaan]

3 minutes ago, express bowling said:

Harshit bowling filth today.

 

Again tried to bowl out going balls from a 7th stump line. Seems stupid to me.

 

Generally poor lines 

 

Medium pace today. 129 k to 141 k till his first 2 overs 

 

No bounce.

 

Seemed disinterested in bowling at full pace or with focus.

 

Harshit has fitness issues,very bulky for a fast bowler

[express bowling]

14 hours ago, Suhaan said:

Harshit has fitness issues,very bulky for a fast bowler

 

Apart from Mitchell Starc and Mark Wood, every pacer, all over the world, is bowling within himself in the last 7 or 8 years. 

 

They want to stay fit for T20 leagues. 

 

Lack of FC games is causing more injuries too. 

 

This is a big issue these days.

Edited April 22, 2025 by express bowling

[Lord]

5 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

Apart from Mitchell Starc and Mark Wood, every pacer, all over the world, is bowling within himself in the last 7 or 8 years. 

 

They want to stay fit for T20 league. 

 

Lack of FC games is causing more injuries too. 

 

This is a big issue these days.

 

There's too much league cricket. Lockie was bowling full tilt but got injured

[tapandrun]

7 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

Apart from Mitchell Starc and Mark Wood, every pacer, all over the world, is bowling within himself in the last 7 or 8 years. 

 

They want to stay fit for T20 league. 

 

Lack of FC games is causing more injuries too. 

 

This is a big issue these days.

Too much high voltage cricket, no off-time, working on new variation on the go, plus intra team competition is huge everywhere.

And for Ind cricket its easy to be termed as he just tries to bowl fast.

 

Think along with lack of FC plus trying to re-invent every season and the high need of being ahead of the curve is causing this. 

Bowlers who only bowls at test match length or one length stays fit ,else every1 is getting injured 

 

[express bowling]

1 minute ago, Lord said:

 

There's too much league cricket. Lockie was bowling full tilt but got injured

 

Pacers like Lockie, who have become white ball specialists, lack thd fitness to bowl fast for any length of time. 

 

Want fast bowlers like Starc, who play everything and still can bowl.145 k whenever he wants. 

[tapandrun]

1 minute ago, express bowling said:

 

Pacers like Lockie, who have become white ball specialists, lack thd fitness to bowl fast for any length of time. 

 

Want fast bowlers like Starc, who play everything and still can bowl.145 k whenever he wants. 

Starc bowls same length in test and white-ball, shami bowls same length in white and red ball, same for cummins .

Who ever is bowling same length in all the formats are staying fit as the body and muscles are accustomed to it. And they v.much bowl at same speeds in test and white-ball so body is used to of this. Unlike other who bowls different length and bowls variantions  and bowls at different speeds in red-ball and white-ball

[rkt.india]

19 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

Pacers like Lockie, who have become white ball specialists, lack thd fitness to bowl fast for any length of time. 

 

Want fast bowlers like Starc, who play everything and still can bowl.145 k whenever he wants. 

Lockie bowling action isn't good on his body while Starc has symmetrical biomechanical action.

[rkt.india]

56 minutes ago, express bowling said:

Harshit bowling filth today.

 

Again tried to bowl outgoing balls from a 7th stump line. Seems stupid to me.

 

Generally poor lines 

 

Medium pace today. 129 k to 141 k till his 2nd over.

 

No bounce.

 

Seemed disinterested in bowling at full pace or with focus.

 

If you start judging players during or after every game then every player is a failure. Even the greatest of the players fail more than they succeed.  Human body isn't a machine. When you wake up in the morning, it's not same everyday. There are always days it won't respond as best as it should.

Edited April 21, 2025 by rkt.india

[rkt.india]

57 minutes ago, Suhaan said:

Harshit has fitness issues,very bulky for a fast bowler

No. He isn't that bulky. He just doesn't have bowling action approach of a genuine quick. His approach and action is like Sandeep Sharma. He isn't a genuine 145k bowler and will always have inconsistency in pace.

Edited April 21, 2025 by rkt.india

[express bowling]

12 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

If you start judging players during or after every game then every player is a failure. Even the greatest of the players fail more than they succeed.  Human body isn't a machine. When you wake up in the morning, it's not same everyday. There are always days it won't respond as best as it should.

 

Harshit Rana has bowled within himself in this entire IPL. Just ONE ball at 145 k+.

 

While he has bowled lots of 144 k to 146 k balls in his short international career. Fastest of 151 k in T20Is, 149 k in ODIs and 146 k in tests. 

 

So I am not judging him after every game. But talking about this entire tournament too. 

 

His bowling outgoing balls from the 7th stump is not new either. 

[tweaker]

Prasidh 142.3 k

[rkt.india]

1 minute ago, express bowling said:

 

Harshit Rana has bowled within himself in this entire IPL. Just ONE ball at 145 k+.

 

While he has bowled lots of 144 k to 146 k balls in his short international career. Fastest of 151 k in T20Is, 149 k in ODIs and 146 k in tests. 

 

So I am not judging him after every game. But talking about this entire tournament too. 

 

His bowling outgoing balls from the 7th stump is not new either. 

These top speeds are one odd deliveries. He consistently bowls only around 136-142. Goes over 144 only now and then. 

[singhvivek141]

42 minutes ago, tapandrun said:

Starc bowls same length in test and white-ball, shami bowls same length in white and red ball, same for cummins .

Who ever is bowling same length in all the formats are staying fit as the body and muscles are accustomed to it. And they v.much bowl at same speeds in test and white-ball so body is used to of this. Unlike other who bowls different length and bowls variantions  and bowls at different speeds in red-ball and white-ball

Starc vary his lengths for T20. He bowls pin point yorkers and he is the only one in Australian main pacers who has all around T20 skills...Cummins & Hazelwood rely too much on back of length cutters to avoid impact on their back.

[singhvivek141]

22 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

No. He isn't that bulky. He just doesn't have bowling action approach of a genuine quick. His approach and action is like Sandeep Sharma. He isn't a genuine 145k bowler and will always have inconsistency in pace.

 

That is fine if he is happy being a T20 bowler.

 

But for Tests, such inconsistencies will mean lower pace as then he won't push himself to bowl longer spells.

[express bowling]

Prasidh 1st over

 

147.3

146.x

145.8

144.1

 

Edited April 21, 2025 by express bowling

[rkt.india]

4 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said:

Starc vary his lengths for T20. He bowls pin point yorkers and he is the only one in Australian main pacers who has all around T20 skills...Cummins & Hazelwood rely too much on back of length cutters to avoid impact on their back.

Hazelwood is the best alround pacer in australia, not Starc. Even his Yorkers are very good.

[rkt.india]

1 minute ago, singhvivek141 said:

 

That is fine if he is happy being a T20 bowler.

 

But for Tests, such inconsistencies will mean lower pace as then he won't push himself to bowl longer spells.

136-142 is fine enough pace for test cricket if accuracy is good.

[tapandrun]

4 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said:

Starc vary his lengths for T20. He bowls pin point yorkers and he is the only one in Australian main pacers who has all around T20 skills...Cummins & Hazelwood rely too much on back of length cutters to avoid impact on their back.

starc is v.good white-ball bowler, he does not changes his length much and does not rely on variations.

 He is fast, tall and bowls yorker plus the left Arm angle.

He does not try anything which he is not doing in test 

 

[express bowling]

5 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

These top speeds are one odd deliveries. He consistently bowls only around 136-142. Goes over 144 only now and then. 

 

Harshit has bowled some overs at 143 k to 146 k in almost every international match and both Dulerp Trophy games he has played. 

 

151 k, 149 k maybe one off balls but quite a few 144 k to 146 k balls every game is normal for him. 

[express bowling]

Prasidh 144 k cracking yorker