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Well done Jury. Asshole knew legal system, knew Floyd from his past workplace. It was blatant use of Police system by white racist pig to simply execute a murder.

 

Its time that a enquiry is setip and all of his mates also get arrested and given same fate as this crime was clearly a planned one. All of them MoFos knew that they were choking a man 3 times their size by using the weight of US Police system

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He was slapped with a murder charge and handed a guilty only only because of video evidence.  For centuries, these injustices were rampant but could be obfuscated by legal wrangling, claims of self-defense etc.  Bystanders had no power.  Not anymore. 

 

This is the first step towards getting rid of qualified immunity law for police officers.  

 

https://reason.com/2020/06/11/justin-amash-tom-mcclintock-republican-cosponsor-tripartisan-support-to-end-qualified-immunity/

 

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1 hour ago, coffee_rules said:

This case sets a precedent on other wrongful deaths. Happens once every month all over US. 

During this trial, there were 2 - "accidental" killing of Daunte Wright in Minneapolis itself (video too disturbing): They pull this 20-yr old over.  Discover he has an outstanding warrant he has not fulfilled.  Try to cuff him.  He resists and gets back in the car.  Officer (26 yr experienced) screams "Taser Taser", but pulls out her gun and shoots him.  Point-blank.  Then she goes "****." In the old days, with no video, nothing would've happened to her.  Not anymore.  

 

... and then the incident where an AA army officer was treated like dirt for no reason.  And the policeman insulting an army officer is himself Latino (Gutierrez).  

 

 

I understand that police officers have a very very difficult job and are putting their lives on the line for our safety.  But it is clear that the overstepping of bounds, using excessive force etc., is not isolated, but systemic.  And you are much more likely to be a victim in this situation if you are AA.  

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8 minutes ago, BacktoCricaddict said:

 

I have not confirmed whether this is true, but with qualified immunity being the norm, it would not surprise me one bit.


 

There is WAPO link in one of the replies that puts around 1k/yr

 

https://www.11alive.com/amp/article/news/local/police-shootings-numbers/85-d8861f64-e1ae-4cbb-9734-d69c0e34ca32?__twitter_impression=true

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Nancy Amma, just shut up:

 

https://www.thewrap.com/nancy-pelosi-bizarrely-thanks-george-floyd-for-sacrificing-your-life-for-justice-video/#brid_cp_Brid_18955230

 

She is thanking George Floyd for sacrificing his life for justice.  What a beeyotch.  He didn't volunteer to be a martyr.  He was just a regular dude with a troubled life who was murdered in cold blood. 

 

Effin politicians ....

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Just now, coffee_rules said:


 

There is WAPO link in one of the replies

And none of those 7 convictions are for killing AAs.

 

Having said all that, we must also keep in mind that many of these police-criminal encounters are real and police have no choice but to protect themselves and other innocent people.  We were led to believe that they were *all* like that.  Not anymore.

 

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8 minutes ago, BacktoCricaddict said:

And none of those 7 convictions are for killing AAs.

 

Having said all that, we must also keep in mind that many of these police-criminal encounters are real and police have no choice but to protect themselves and other innocent people.  We were led to believe that they were *all* like that.  Not anymore.

 


Not true, there have been other white cops convicted of murdering black people

 

https://theundefeated.com/features/what-does-it-mean-when-white-police-are-convicted-of-killing-blacks/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

 

On Oct. 6, a Chicago jury convicted Jason Van Dyke, a white Chicago police officer, of second-degree murder. His victim, Laquan McDonald, a black 17-year-old high school student, and his family received the justice that routinely evades black people complaining of abuse by white police officers. This conviction, along with that of Roy D. Oliver II, a Texas police officer convicted in August of murdering Jordan Edwards, 15, might signal, to some, that the work of social movements like Black Lives Matter has bent the criminal justice system in a fairer direction.

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6 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:


Not true, there have been other white cops convicted of murdering black people

 

https://theundefeated.com/features/what-does-it-mean-when-white-police-are-convicted-of-killing-blacks/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

 

On Oct. 6, a Chicago jury convicted Jason Van Dyke, a white Chicago police officer, of second-degree murder. His victim, Laquan McDonald, a black 17-year-old high school student, and his family received the justice that routinely evades black people complaining of abuse by white police officers. This conviction, along with that of Roy D. Oliver II, a Texas police officer convicted in August of murdering Jordan Edwards, 15, might signal, to some, that the work of social movements like Black Lives Matter has bent the criminal justice system in a fairer direction.

So, that LeVar Burton guy whose tweet I posted above was BSing.  This is what is wrong with politics and journalism.  Say **** without confirming just to make a point.  Thanks for checking - I should've done due diligence before sharing.

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42 minutes ago, BacktoCricaddict said:

And none of those 7 convictions are for killing AAs.

 

Having said all that, we must also keep in mind that many of these police-criminal encounters are real and police have no choice but to protect themselves and other innocent people.  We were led to believe that they were *all* like that.  Not anymore.

 


ya the problem is these happen is mostly bad Neighborhoods. Even police is scared.  But innocents getting killed is worse. This is a bad situation unless you take away guns from all you can’t solve it. But the constitution won’t allow it.

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22 minutes ago, BacktoCricaddict said:

So, that LeVar Burton guy whose tweet I posted above was BSing.  This is what is wrong with politics and journalism.  Say **** without confirming just to make a point.  Thanks for checking - I should've done due diligence before sharing.


Yes, But just a very few, it is so rare. If it is claimed like the Burton guy, it’s not unbelievable. It’s not like cops like to kill, but they get away with self-defence or just cause, law is skewed towards their favor

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21 minutes ago, BacktoCricaddict said:

You sure about that?  Acc to salary dot com, the range in NC is 45K to 65K.  In NC, it is an okay salary, you won't starve or be homeless, but it ain't big bucks.

They make a lot in overtime, time during emergencies like 9/11 or BLM protests etc are a big earner. During 9/11, I had read a report that overtime duty cops (at senior level) who retired had made close to seven figures ( adding up all years) . Some of them choose to be beat cops in NJ/NY , to make money with the mafia. IA is big time in this area, chasing corrupt cops

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2 hours ago, BacktoCricaddict said:

You sure about that?  Acc to salary dot com, the range in NC is 45K to 65K.  In NC, it is an okay salary, you won't starve or be homeless, but it ain't big bucks.

that data is BS - they make tons of "overtime", add other 'consulting gigs on top, and most can 'retire' after 20 years or so, in their 40s, with full benefits, and 150% salary.  

 

At least  that's the case in NJ and surrounding states. Cops can make 6 figures without breaking a sweat, and their benefits are ridiculous - their holidays never expire - most cops retire with hundreds and hundreds of 'vacation days', meaning they get more than a year's salary on that after 'retirement'.  

 

 

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