Should Kohli and Rohit be banned if the 5th test is deemed forfeited by ICC?

[Khota]

33 minutes ago, MultiB48 said:

Where ?give the link.

Look at the post above and

 

 

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/self-isolation-and-treatment/when-to-self-isolate-and-what-to-do/

 

here is the point of reference for this:

 

When you do not need to self-isolate

If someone you live with has symptoms of COVID-19, or has tested positive for COVID-19, you will not need to self-isolate if any of the following apply:

• you're fully vaccinated – this means 14 days have passed since your final dose of a COVID-19 vaccine given by the NHS

[Khota]

30 minutes ago, MultiB48 said:

So why did they isolate the support staff when only shastri was positive, complete mismanagement by eng , won't even follow their own guidelines, resulting in this farce.

Who told the staff to isolate?? Were any players asked to isolate? Who was making these decisions. Where was the village idiot at this time?

[zen]

6 minutes ago, Khota said:

And these are the guidelines world over but these rules dont apply to Indian players. Because of hero worship.

 

a) the rules specify that 

b) and as I said iirc the medical team in the UK addressed players concerns too 

 

Despite knowing that the players (instigated by the two IPL captains) went ahead to play the fear card, potentially risking Ind's rare strong position in a test series in Eng 

[zen]

Just now, MultiB48 said:

Shastri would not have caught the virus if ecb had kept them in the bubble and why didn't no one raise this issue during the 4th test and get them released,seems like one wouldn't mind  if this match had gone on without the support staff,now since eng lost money we have to waste our time on this .

 

There is probably no bubble requirements with more than 50% of the populating getting two jabs. In countries like India, it would be because the country has not even achieved 50% double vaccination. In the recent Euro 2020, many teams continued despite COVID in the team.

 

For reference, UK has 66% of its population fully vaccinated, while in India the number is 13.5%. 

 

 

[rkt.india]

8 hours ago, Khota said:

Another my dog ate my homework post. Follow the guidelines.

This was the guideline they followed.

[rkt.india]

8 hours ago, zen said:

 

Does not matter. The players were COVID negative and decision to go ahead by the boards taken. 

 

The game did not take place because of the "personal feelings and opinions" of the players (and motivation to participate in IPLearly  esp. as captains of respective sides, putting India position at risk)

 

Pak has a losing record versus India in world cups. We cannot have a situation where someone in the squad test positive and Pakistani players decide to not take the field to enable the team to share points with India. If they are COVID negative, Pak players are expected to take the field versus India. 

Test being cancelled had nothing to do with IPL. They only needed 3 day quarantine in Dubai if there was no Covid scare. 

[zen]

4 minutes ago, MultiB48 said:

Euro matches last for a day ,nothing like a test tour. Shastri was vaccinated but still caught it, as did the other physio , shows that vaccination won't prevent covid.Ecb got what they deserved for saving money on bio bubbles but enriching themselves on umpteenth number of India tours.

 

But it is India that is in trouble despite being ahead in the series as the series is currently undecided. The team risked a rare test series win in Eng. 

[Khota]

23 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

This was the guideline they followed.

Under whose instructions.

[zen]

1 minute ago, MultiB48 said:

India is always in trouble , don't worry about us.

 

If we take your line of reasoning then this has to be an honest mistake on India's part as only eng benefits out of it and maybe they influenced it ,if someone like srini mama could be removed and that ghastly manohar and later that interim committee put in charge then who is this "bcci medical team".

 

 

I am not worried about whatever the "us" means but Team India's lead being compromised by dumb moves. 

[rkt.india]

35 minutes ago, zen said:

 

I am not worried about whatever the "us" means but Team India's lead being compromised by dumb moves. 

You are not understanding. No team in the world with their support staff being isolated and 8-10 players deemed close contacts of a Covid positive will be ready to play a test match the next day. Stop comparing a 5 day test match to a 90 minutes football game 

[zen]

5 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

You are not understanding. No team in the world with their support staff being isolated and 8-10 players deemed close contacts of a Covid positive will be ready to play a test match the next day. Stop comparing a 5 day test match to a 90 minutes football game 

 

Why not "read" the discussions?

 

As already posted: 

 

Espnstar: Link

 

“According to the UK government's Covid-19 guidelines, any person who receives a positive PCR test for Covid-19 is obliged to self-isolate for ten days. However, those identified as close contacts don't need to isolate themselves if they test negative and it has been more than 14 days since their second jab.”

 

And if I recall correctly, a medical team in England had also addressed players concerns.

 

Edited September 17, 2021 by zen

[kepler37b]

Kohli must be criticized for NOT releasing a formal statement on behalf of players. Ohh, i see that BCCI has already started the treatment...

[poyzzplaidwell]

14 hours ago, zen said:

Let’s not judge using desi logic. If you were in Aus, you would write Smith aur Warner KO ban karenge. 

 

lol. Bhaijaan ye paxtan nahi hai jahan Captain raaton raat ban hoke gayab kar diye jaate hain..lol. 

They stood for what is right and the BCCI backed them fully.

Peeh Cee Bee samajh rakha hai kya.

[rkt.india]

2 hours ago, zen said:

 

Why not "read" the discussions?

 

As already posted: 

 

Espnstar: Link

 

“According to the UK government's Covid-19 guidelines, any person who receives a positive PCR test for Covid-19 is obliged to self-isolate for ten days. However, those identified as close contacts don't need to isolate themselves if they test negative and it has been more than 14 days since their second jab.”

 

And if I recall correctly, a medical team in England had also addressed players concerns.

 

These guidelines are useless. These are for British public, not international cricket. Covid guidelines for playing cricket are different. International cricket is played on conditions agreed before the tour along with ICC and according to that close contacts have to be isolated like they did in Sri Lanka or in case of the support staff.

[nevada]

How about banning Shastri from writing?

 

[zen]

5 hours ago, rkt.india said:

These guidelines are useless. These are for British public, not international cricket. Covid guidelines for playing cricket are different. International cricket is played on conditions agreed before the tour along with ICC and according to that close contacts have to be isolated like they did in Sri Lanka or in case of the support staff.

Keep dreaming 

[Khota]

8 hours ago, zen said:

 

Why not "read" the discussions?

 

As already posted: 

 

Espnstar: Link

 

“According to the UK government's Covid-19 guidelines, any person who receives a positive PCR test for Covid-19 is obliged to self-isolate for ten days. However, those identified as close contacts don't need to isolate themselves if they test negative and it has been more than 14 days since their second jab.”

 

And if I recall correctly, a medical team in England had also addressed players concerns.

 

And this is the exact stance CDC also have. Now if BCCI or Shastri(the village idiot) know more about vaccines than more power to them

[Khota]

6 hours ago, rkt.india said:

These guidelines are useless. These are for British public, not international cricket. Covid guidelines for playing cricket are different. International cricket is played on conditions agreed before the tour along with ICC and according to that close contacts have to be isolated like they did in Sri Lanka or in case of the support staff.

says a man with Nobel Prize in medicine.

[zen]

18 minutes ago, Khota said:

And this is the exact stance CDC also have. Now if BCCI or Shastri(the village idiot) know more about vaccines than more power to them

In  most of the west, the “guidelines” should be more or less similar with 50% or more of its population now fully vaccinated and countries seeking to relax their norms where possible.

 

I do not know what the rules for attending matches are (do spectators have to be double vaccinated?) but I would be more concerned for spectators esp. if closely grouped than cricketers who live in a controlled environment, engaging mostly with those who have tested COVID negative and are double vaccinated. 

England players and umpires run similar risks by engaging with close contacts from the other team. But they probably understood the “guidelines” better. 
 

Edited September 17, 2021 by zen

[Khota]

26 minutes ago, zen said:

In  most of the west, the “guidelines” should be more or less similar with 50% or more of its population now fully vaccinated and countries seeking to relax their norms where possible.

 

I do not know what the rules for attending matches are (do spectators have to be double vaccinated?) but I would be more concerned for spectators esp. if closely grouped than cricketers who live in a controlled environment, engaging mostly with those who have tested COVID negative and are double vaccinated. 

England players and umpires run similar risks by engaging with close contacts from the other team. But they probably understood the “guidelines” better. 
 

Their respect for following law is better.