The BCCI needs to create two pools of 150 kph pacers and 145 kph pacers and groom them with special care

[Jay]

1) stop saying sir. Seriously stop stop ****. Stop grovelling. Stop sucking up. Stop being sycophants. 

2) seriously. Check yourselves with a psychiatrist or something. This whole seniority culture needs to perish. Enough of that rubbish. If you are skilled and have merit then seniority shouldn't Inhibit your progress. 

3) stop worshipping cricketers as some sort of God. Jesus. Allah. Ram. Whatever you pray to. They are human. Just like you. Stop idolising them. Same with instagram models. Stop *ing putting them on a pedestal lmao. They are just human. Address them as a human. 

4) play aggressive cricket against everyone not just Aussies, saffers and poms. This is crucial. Change the mentality. You need to be hostile. This is war. Kill or be killed. 

5) do not give too much responsibility to one person. We all saw how that turned out under kohli. Select personnel based on performance. Reward merit and hard work. 

6) don't let players treat cricket like its a government job. They are getting paid to perform. Have the cojones to drop big name players. 

7) sure money matters. I get it. Butts on seats. Big names put butts on seats. Not at the expense of losing in a world tournament however. Sometimes I feel like we love portraying kohli for example as some kind of saviour. I remember pre 2018 all commentators would talk about how dependent we are on kohli. If he doesn't perform we are finished. I feel like they don't want india ro perform as a team as that wouldn't make a special player as popular. If the team functions well as a unit, it would be hard to promote them collectively. Much easier to have a solo stand out player who generates more publicity.

8) work on fitness jeez. World class athletes cannot look out of shape for God sake. Don't be built like a toothpick. 

9) analyze opponents for God sake. Why do we have data scientists for? 

10) learn to be inventive in batting. Don't be stuck by the book. Create new shots. Be unorthodox. Stop being so rigid. 

Edited November 7, 2021 by Jay

[AKane]

23 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

5)  Some people like us to be underdogs. They always want a David vs Goliath scenario. They don't want us to dominate but win that odd game as underdogs. Big phoren phaast bowler bowling cannon balls at short Indian batsmen. That batsman may fail 2 or 3 times and then score a century. And then may fail again 3 times. But that century against a bully gives them much more satisfaction than us being the favourites. In short, undergo mentality is rampant.

 

 

 

Point 5 I like...great point.

 

They would rather play and "occasionally" win against a bully rather than be the bully themselves. What is wrong with being a bully like a George S. Patton at war or Marco Materrazi in soccer or a Malcom Marshall in cricket? 

 

[Jay]

1 minute ago, AKane said:

 

Point 5 I like...great point.

 

They would rather play and "occasionally" win against a bully rather than be the bully themselves. What is wrong with being a bully like a George S. Patton at war or Marco Materrazi in soccer or a Malcom Marshall in cricket? 

 

Being David generates more views and therefore more money. 

 

Underdog winning always pleases fans more.

[rkt.india]

19 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

 

Umran And Saini would both qualify.

 

They have to be encouraged to bowl at 150 kph.  Not be happy bowling 137 k to 143 k.

 

And the BCCI scouts have to scour the country for express bowlers like you do and then develop them with special interest.

 

Nikhil Kohli has potential.

 

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CKajknAgU_I/?utm_medium=copy_link

 

This guy from Jaipur is also potentially 150k

 

[Suhaan]

25 minutes ago, express bowling said:

thing noticeable is that we are happy to groom.every pacer into the 135 k to 143 k category

You are right,but 150+ (although you said 145+)are rare commodity even today

Not many countries have a 150+ bowler in their setup,but yes influence is necessary,its like an engine once its starts it wont stop while giving drive(power)

I can only recall Wood, Nortje as out and out 150+ pacers in the world at the moment

137-145+ pacers are like 4.5 fighter jets who will form the workhorse core of an attack

While 150+ are like 5th gen modern expensive strike and escape fighters,they will be in less numbers but we will have to churn them out in some numbers if not more can't lag in modern times

[Suhaan]

8 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

 

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CKajknAgU_I/?utm_medium=copy_link

 

This guy from Jaipur is also potentially 150k

 

A pacer named Divyanshu Singh from Mumbai once you posted a video of him looked quite quick

Is he playing SMAT?or associated with any IPL franchise?

[rkt.india]

2 minutes ago, Suhaan said:

You are right,but 150+ (although you said 145+)are rare commodity even today

Not many countries have a 150+ bowler in their setup,but yes influence is necessary,its like an engine once its starts it wont stop while giving drive(power)

I can only recall Wood, Nortje as out and out 150+ pacers in the world at the moment

137-145+ pacers are like 4.5 fighter jets who will form the workhorse core of an attack

While 150+ are like 5th gen modern expensive strike and escape fighters,they will be in less numbers but we will have to churn them out in some numbers if not more can't lag in modern times

Loki Ferguson as well

[Suhaan]

Just now, rkt.india said:

Loki Ferguson as well

Yes

[rkt.india]

3 minutes ago, Suhaan said:

A pacer named Divyanshu Singh from Mumbai once you posted a video of him looked quite quick

Is he playing SMAT?or associated with any IPL franchise?

He is probably 18 or 19, quick for his age but not 150 yet. He should have been playing u19 challengers but wasn't even picked for Vinoo Mankad trophy. Same with Golam Mustafa didn't play Vinoo Mankad or challengers. He probably missed the age cut off date.

Edited November 7, 2021 by rkt.india

[Jay]

19 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

 

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CKajknAgU_I/?utm_medium=copy_link

 

This guy from Jaipur is also potentially 150k

 

Kid looks fit and strong

.good stuff

 

[Lord]

43 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

 

Umran And Saini would both qualify.

 

They have to be encouraged to bowl at 150 kph.  Not be happy bowling 137 k to 143 k.

 

And the BCCI scouts have to scour the country for express bowlers like you do and then develop them with special interest.

 

Nikhil Kohli has potential.

 

this guy? Doesn't look express to me but I'm no expert

 

 

[Suhaan]

7 minutes ago, Lord said:

 

this guy? Doesn't look express to me but I'm no expert

 

 

Ys maybe not express but he is quite quick

We can't tell things accurately till the time he's clocked

[rkt.india]

22 minutes ago, Lord said:

 

this guy? Doesn't look express to me but I'm no expert

 

 

Looks faster than Bumrah which puts him in express category though need to wait for speed guns for certainty. I remember Saini was making the ball fly similarly in SMA trophy 2-3 years back and was consistently clocked between 145-152k. How quickly the ball flies through to the wk along with the trajectory gives a great idea of pace. I mostly look for that. 

Edited November 7, 2021 by rkt.india

[express bowling]

32 minutes ago, Suhaan said:

You are right,but 150+ (although you said 145+)are rare commodity even today

Not many countries have a 150+ bowler in their setup,but yes influence is necessary,its like an engine once its starts it wont stop while giving drive(power)

I can only recall Wood, Nortje as out and out 150+ pacers in the world at the moment

137-145+ pacers are like 4.5 fighter jets who will form the workhorse core of an attack

While 150+ are like 5th gen modern expensive strike and escape fighters,they will be in less numbers but we will have to churn them out in some numbers if not more can't lag in modern times

 

 

All very valid points.

 

What I wanted to say was that ... we should encourage our fast bowlers to bowl at their full pace say 70% of the time. ( Some slower spells are inevitable in less important spells in long test series and low key LOIs though )

 

 

[express bowling]

25 minutes ago, Lord said:

 

this guy? Doesn't look express to me but I'm no expert

 

 

 

It's not possible for us to gauge exact speeds without any measuring tool ... but look at the really low reaction time of batters time and again.

[express bowling]

1 hour ago, rkt.india said:

 

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CKajknAgU_I/?utm_medium=copy_link

 

This guy from Jaipur is also potentially 150k

 

 

 

Ravi Sharma.

 

Impressive !   Powerful runup and action and the ball is absolutely flying through. He has the action to generate raw pace. 

 

The BCCI should make you a scout for unearthing new express bowlers from India. You have both the passion for fast bowling as well as the technical knowhow. 

 

The ones being used as scouts lack the passion for quick bowling that fast bowling lovers on ICF have.

 

 

[Lord]

We also need atleast one express bowler in our LOI teams. Umran is a good shot as he's fairly accurate even at that pace. That is so encouraging at such young age

 

Use him like how Aus used Tait

[Jay]

8 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

 

Ravi Sharma.

 

Impressive !   Powerful runup and action and the ball is absolutely flying through. He has the action to generate raw pace. 

 

The BCCI should make you a scout for unearthing new express bowlers from India. You have both the passion for fast bowling as well as the technical knowhow. 

 

The ones being used as scouts lack the passion for quick bowling that fast bowling lovers on ICF have.

 

 

He is also built like a tank. Shades of unesh there. Ravi sharma I.e. 

 

Not rkd india. No idea what rkd india is built like. Just kidding. Rkt india should be our national scout for sure. 

[Jay]

Just now, Lord said:

We also need atleast one express bowler in our LOI teams. Umran is a good shot as he's fairly accurate even at that pace. That is so encouraging at such young age

 

Use him like how Aus used Tait

Him saini and maybe someone else like nikhil kphli. 

 

 

[Lord]

1 minute ago, Jay said:

He is also built like a tank. Shades of unesh there. Ravi sharma I.e. 

 

Not rkd india. No idea what rkd india is built like. Just kidding. Rkt india should be our national scout for sure. 

@rkt.india is also built like a tank