Khota 1 -0 ICF, Resistance Is Futile, Allrounders Do Not Exist

[Khota]

3 minutes ago, zen said:

Nah. Cricket needs 11 specialist batsmen when batting and 1 WK + 10 bowlers when bowling … Need to rewrite for the playing 11, I mean 22 

Good approach if the substitution rules allow that. Meanwhile just do as I s as y

 

[zen]

Just now, Khota said:

Good approach if the substitution rules allow that. Meanwhile just do as I s as y

 

Exactly, in tumbaktoo, they tried similar approach where it showed human body responded much better to such changes 

[Khota]

2 minutes ago, R!TTER said:

Fluked his was in 2-3 crucial away tests, when the odds were really stacked against us? Do you need this new stuff called LSD? Yes, when we expect more from him & teams plan him out that's when his real test will be. But let's not make light of his bowling or batting achievements just yet, FYI he's better in the longer formats than T20's at least IMO.

Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds. No I have no use for that

 

[R!TTER]

I have no idea what you're talking about 

[zen]

Thakur is not an AR but a bowler who can bat a bit.  He is like a Chetan Sharma or an Agarkar who can hita few good knocks here and there when at his best. If he does not bowl well, he will not be picked anyways.

Edited November 9, 2021 by zen

[Khota]

11 minutes ago, zen said:

Exactly, in tumbaktoo, they tried similar approach where it showed human body responded much better to such changes 

Can you give examples like I have been doing.

[zen]

Just now, Khota said:

Can you give examples like I have been doing.

Yeah. In 1962. Tumbaktoo had two teams play against each other - team 22 v team 11. Team 22 won. The body analysts who studied the cricketers discovered that T22,   bodies performed more optimally, allowing them to stretch further. 
 

In another game, a concept of T31 was tried against T22 where now the T31 had 11 specialist batsmen while batting, and 1 WK + 9 best fielders + 10 bowlers in rotation. T31 performed better than T22

[Khota]

13 minutes ago, R!TTER said:

I have no idea what you're talking about 

LSD Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds.

[Khota]

Just now, zen said:

Yeah. In 1962. Tumbaktoo had two teams play against each other - team 22 v team 11. Team 22 won. The body analysts who studied the cricketers discovered that T22,   bodies performed more optimally, allowing them to stretch further. 
 

In another game, a concept of T31 was tried against T22 where now the T31 had 11 specialist batsmen while batting, and 1 WK + 9 best fielders + 10 bowlers in rotation. T31 performed better than T22

I am giving you examples from Olympics. You are citing Timbuktoo. You are losing it.

[Khota]

12 minutes ago, zen said:

Thakur is not an AR but a bowler who can bat a bit.  He is like a Chetan Sharma or an Agarkar who can hita few good knocks here and there when at his best. If he does not bowl well, he will not be picked anyways.

So he needs to bowl. No problem with that.

No why did you exempt Pndya from that requirement. 

Same community?

[zen]

19 minutes ago, Khota said:

So he needs to bowl. No problem with that.

No why did you exempt Pndya from that requirement. 

Same community?

As I have explained before, SDP is picked mainly for batting now.  Played as a specialist batsman in Aus and scored 2 90s in ODIs and was MoS in T20s. He is one of the cleanest strikers of the ball. 
 

That he can bowl too and that too at 140+ makes him a rare Indian talent. 

Edited November 9, 2021 by zen

[zen]

14 minutes ago, Khota said:

I am giving you examples from Olympics. You are citing Timbuktoo. You are losing it.

Timbaktoo is more relevant to cricket!

[bowl_out]

Gary Sobers doesn't exist

Kapil Dev doesn't exist

Jacques Kallis doesn't exist

Ian Botham doesn't exist

Imran Khan doesn't exist

Andy Flintoff doesn't exist

Ben Stokes doesn't exist

Yuvraj Singh doesn't exist

 

Edited November 9, 2021 by bowl_out

[maniac]

9 minutes ago, bowl_out said:

Gary Sobers doesn't exist

Kapil Dev doesn't exist

Jacques Kallis doesn't exist

Ian Botham doesn't exist

Imran Khan doesn't exist

Andy Flintoff doesn't exist

Ben Stokes doesn't exist

Yuvraj Singh doesn't exist

 

You should add ELSE Hardik Pandya 

[Khota]

1 hour ago, bowl_out said:

Gary Sobers doesn't exist

Kapil Dev doesn't exist

Jacques Kallis doesn't exist

Ian Botham doesn't exist

Imran Khan doesn't exist

Andy Flintoff doesn't exist

Ben Stokes doesn't exist

Yuvraj Singh doesn't exist

 

Let us stick to India. One Kapil Dev. Just one.

[R!TTER]

4 minutes ago, Khota said:

One Kapil Dev. Just one.

You forgot the original A/R in Vinoo Mankad or the cheapshot Shastri?

[Khota]

Just now, R!TTER said:

You forgot the original A/R in Vinoo Mankad or the cheapshot Shastri?

Shastri was the best player of all times. Best ever.

[R!TTER]

1 minute ago, Khota said:

Shastri was the best player of all times. Best ever.

Ok, let's talk about this guy Mankad, shall we?

[Khota]

16 minutes ago, R!TTER said:

Ok, let's talk about this guy Mankad, shall we?

To be honest I heard good things about him. But India never had much of a team then either so there was opportunity for him

 

[Rightarmfast]

1 hour ago, bowl_out said:

Gary Sobers doesn't exist

Kapil Dev doesn't exist

Jacques Kallis doesn't exist

Ian Botham doesn't exist

Imran Khan doesn't exist

Andy Flintoff doesn't exist

Ben Stokes doesn't exist

Yuvraj Singh doesn't exist

 

Yuvraj wasnt a true allrounder. Imran, at the peak of his bowling career wasnt a great batsman. At the peak of his batting career, he wasnt bowling much. But in any event, just about 8-10 allrounders in the last 60-70 yrs would suggest that these players are an aberration than the rule.