rangeelaraja Posted November 26, 2021 Posted November 26, 2021 (edited) - other - Women's Tests Women's ODIs Women's T20Is Youth Tests Youth ODIs Youth T20Is Batting | Bowling | Fielding | All-round | Partnership | Team | Umpire and referee | Aggregate/overall View overall figures [change view] Primary team New Zealand http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruRemove.gif Opposition team Australia http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruRemove.gif Start of match date greater than or equal to 1 Jan 1994 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruRemove.gif Totals in terms of batting team http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruRemove.gif Ordered by matches won (descending) Overall figures Team Span Mat Won Lost Tied Draw W/L Ave RPO Inns HS LS New Zealand 1997-2020 28 1 21 0 6 0.047 26.19 3.12 55 624 76 https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;opposition=2;spanmin1=01+Jan+1994;spanval1=span;team=5;template=results;type=team Yes, a mere 1 test match in 28 years ( and lost 21 in return). Australia have treated them like an utter minnow ( the #1 ranked "test side") that can only win with extraordinary circumstances supporting them. What is the relevance of this fact to our ongoing Test series against them ? It is very relevant. It shows that NZ can be mental minnows and just cave in under the reputation of their "big brother" next door and Australia mentally always has an upper hand against them. One look at the score card of these matches that NZ has hosted for Australia- and they are mostly high scoring flat pitches intended to blunt the Aussie edge in fast bowling. Yet, they have gotten a pasting in their own backyard. Contrast this to the kind of pitches we get when we tour NZ for tests . On good tours, they are 3 day test match pitches. On others like 2002, we had 1.5 day test matches. We refused to tour them for 7 years after that fraud until 2009 when they finally prepared the pitches that they prepare for teams like Australia, and we beat them on their own turf in 2009. NZ has always been an under the radar low profile "great sportsman spirit" team. But they are inarguably one of the most "rogue" teams when it comes to doctoring home pitches depending upon which side is coming to tour, whereas it is mostly India that gets maligned. They are are last side to deserve any " fairness " . WTF did we not prepare 2-3 day dustbowls for this "great sportsman spirit" team that has always welcomed us only for 2-3 day test matches ?? Edited November 26, 2021 by rangeelaraja nevada, Sunil_narine024, Under_Score and 2 others 3 2
Jay Posted November 26, 2021 Posted November 26, 2021 1 hour ago, rangeelaraja said: - other - Women's Tests Women's ODIs Women's T20Is Youth Tests Youth ODIs Youth T20Is Batting | Bowling | Fielding | All-round | Partnership | Team | Umpire and referee | Aggregate/overall View overall figures [change view] Primary team New Zealand http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruRemove.gif Opposition team Australia http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruRemove.gif Start of match date greater than or equal to 1 Jan 1994 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruRemove.gif Totals in terms of batting team http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruRemove.gif Ordered by matches won (descending) Overall figures Team Span Mat Won Lost Tied Draw W/L Ave RPO Inns HS LS New Zealand 1997-2020 28 1 21 0 6 0.047 26.19 3.12 55 624 76 https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;opposition=2;spanmin1=01+Jan+1994;spanval1=span;team=5;template=results;type=team Yes, a mere 1 test match in 28 years ( and lost 21 in return). Australia have treated them like an utter minnow ( the #1 ranked "test side") that can only win with extraordinary circumstances supporting them. What is the relevance of this fact to our ongoing Test series against them ? It is very relevant. It shows that NZ can be mental minnows and just cave in under the reputation of their "big brother" next door and Australia mentally always has an upper hand against them. One look at the score card of these matches that NZ has hosted for Australia- and they are mostly high scoring flat pitches intended to blunt the Aussie edge in fast bowling. Yet, they have gotten a pasting in their own backyard. Contrast this to the kind of pitches we get when we tour NZ for tests . On good tours, they are 3 day test match pitches. On others like 2002, we had 1.5 day test matches. We refused to tour them for 7 years after that fraud until 2009 when they finally prepared the pitches that they prepare for teams like Australia, and we beat them on their own turf in 2009. NZ has always been an under the radar low profile "great sportsman spirit" team. But they are inarguably one of the most "rogue" teams when it comes to doctoring home pitches depending upon which side is coming to tour, whereas it is mostly India that gets maligned. They are are last side to deserve any " fairness " . WTF did we not prepare 2-3 day dustbowls for this "great sportsman spirit" team that has always welcomed us only for 2-3 day test matches ?? Money. Bcci care about money. Match that last 4 5 days brings more revenue.
rangeelaraja Posted November 26, 2021 Author Posted November 26, 2021 2 hours ago, Jay said: Money. Bcci care about money. Match that last 4 5 days brings more revenue. We do doctor pitches against Eng and Aus resulting in short matches. Eng and Aus are far better for the box office compared to NZ. We just dont crush NZ the way they should be crushed on our soil, while they keep screwing us on their turf with pitches that concludes test matches in 2 days and a bit. We should have prepared absolute dustbowls and shown them the finger pointing to the kind of pitches/games they serve up when India tours. Infact Eng and Aus deserve good pitches when they tour us - they dont doctor the pitches like NZ does when we tour. Sunil_narine024 and Under_Score 2
nevada Posted November 26, 2021 Posted November 26, 2021 3 hours ago, rangeelaraja said: - other - Women's Tests Women's ODIs Women's T20Is Youth Tests Youth ODIs Youth T20Is Batting | Bowling | Fielding | All-round | Partnership | Team | Umpire and referee | Aggregate/overall View overall figures [change view] Primary team New Zealand http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruRemove.gif Opposition team Australia http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruRemove.gif Start of match date greater than or equal to 1 Jan 1994 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruRemove.gif Totals in terms of batting team http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruRemove.gif Ordered by matches won (descending) Overall figures Team Span Mat Won Lost Tied Draw W/L Ave RPO Inns HS LS New Zealand 1997-2020 28 1 21 0 6 0.047 26.19 3.12 55 624 76 https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;opposition=2;spanmin1=01+Jan+1994;spanval1=span;team=5;template=results;type=team Yes, a mere 1 test match in 28 years ( and lost 21 in return). Australia have treated them like an utter minnow ( the #1 ranked "test side") that can only win with extraordinary circumstances supporting them. What is the relevance of this fact to our ongoing Test series against them ? It is very relevant. It shows that NZ can be mental minnows and just cave in under the reputation of their "big brother" next door and Australia mentally always has an upper hand against them. One look at the score card of these matches that NZ has hosted for Australia- and they are mostly high scoring flat pitches intended to blunt the Aussie edge in fast bowling. Yet, they have gotten a pasting in their own backyard. Contrast this to the kind of pitches we get when we tour NZ for tests . On good tours, they are 3 day test match pitches. On others like 2002, we had 1.5 day test matches. We refused to tour them for 7 years after that fraud until 2009 when they finally prepared the pitches that they prepare for teams like Australia, and we beat them on their own turf in 2009. NZ has always been an under the radar low profile "great sportsman spirit" team. But they are inarguably one of the most "rogue" teams when it comes to doctoring home pitches depending upon which side is coming to tour, whereas it is mostly India that gets maligned. They are are last side to deserve any " fairness " . WTF did we not prepare 2-3 day dustbowls for this "great sportsman spirit" team that has always welcomed us only for 2-3 day test matches ?? They are certainly garbage level in the type of pitches they prepare for us. I don't see any "nice guy" behavior in that. Like a son who drinks like a bottomless barrel but won't touch a bottle in front of his father, they always dutifully lose agains the Aussies. Screw them and their "nice guy" act! Kohli has softened up our team against these cunning faux nice guys with his bromance with KW. Vijy and rangeelaraja 2
rangeelaraja Posted November 26, 2021 Author Posted November 26, 2021 Just now, nevada said: They are certainly garbage level in the type of pitches they prepare for us. I don't see any "nice guy" behavior in that. Like a son who drinks like a bottomless barrel but won't touch a bottle in front of his father, they always dutifully lose agains the Aussies. Screw them and their "nice guy" act! Kohli has softened up our team against these cunning faux nice guys with his bromance with KW. Just see the scorecards from 2016 of Aus tours in NZ. Aus has plundered 400-500 runs in every test match more or less when they tour NZ. And we are barely able to put 200+. Aus batting on those conditions is certainly not that superior to ours. NZ is the biggest rogue team when it comes to doctoring home pitches - they just don't get called out for it because they are not "high profile" like India, Eng, Aus..etc. nevada, Sunil_narine024 and Under_Score 1 2
nevada Posted November 26, 2021 Posted November 26, 2021 3 minutes ago, rangeelaraja said: Just see the scorecards from 2016 of Aus tours in NZ. Aus has plundered 400-500 runs in every test match more or less when they tour NZ. And we are barely able to put 200+. Aus batting on those conditions is certainly not that superior to ours. NZ is the biggest rogue team when it comes to doctoring home pitches - they just don't get called out for it because they are not "high profile" like India, Eng, Aus..etc. Swing and seam is supposed to be a true test of a batsman whereas spin isn't given the same level of respect! Our own inferiority complex and reverence towards "SENA" has emboldened this rogue team to prepare garbage wickets.
Lone Wolf Posted November 26, 2021 Posted November 26, 2021 Kiwis did gave us good batting tracks in 2014 tour & we did score runs & lost a close series 1-0. That B Mac ton in 2nd test saved them. We acted like good guys & gave them good tracks in 2016. They went overboard in 2020 & almost matched 2002 mambas & here we gave them a game at favorable venue as well. Mumbai also has true bounce.
rangeelaraja Posted November 26, 2021 Author Posted November 26, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, nevada said: Swing and seam is supposed to be a true test of a batsman whereas spin isn't given the same level of respect! Our own inferiority complex and reverence towards "SENA" has emboldened this rogue team to prepare garbage wickets. Neither the morons in BCCI nor our captains have any sense of history or a sense of mental ascendency when it comes to NZ. Does anyone remember the ICC Champions trophy in 2000 ?? We beat the hot favorites Aus and RSA en route to the finals and lost to the Kiwis in the finals. This mediocre team has been a thorn that has been petted by us. Aus crush Kiwis for fun, while we don't adopt a ruthless aggressive approach. Even Pakistan another mediocre team - regularly thrashes Kiwis in big games. Infact, Pak has a mental edge over Kiwis. When NZ abandoned Pak, the latter proclaimed ( almost like a national proclamation ) that they will certainly beat them in the T20 WC and beat they did. Be it the 2015 WC Final or the 2021 WC Final - Aus has always beaten NZ even before the game starts. Edited November 26, 2021 by rangeelaraja Vijy, raki05, Sunil_narine024 and 2 others 1 2 2
Jay Posted November 26, 2021 Posted November 26, 2021 4 hours ago, rangeelaraja said: We do doctor pitches against Eng and Aus resulting in short matches. Eng and Aus are far better for the box office compared to NZ. We just dont crush NZ the way they should be crushed on our soil, while they keep screwing us on their turf with pitches that concludes test matches in 2 days and a bit. We should have prepared absolute dustbowls and shown them the finger pointing to the kind of pitches/games they serve up when India tours. Infact Eng and Aus deserve good pitches when they tour us - they dont doctor the pitches like NZ does when we tour. Aussies got brilliant pitches last time. I think England pissed india off after the first test loss lmao. They are like aha * this, we are going to destroy them.
Jay Posted November 26, 2021 Posted November 26, 2021 4 hours ago, nevada said: Swing and seam is supposed to be a true test of a batsman whereas spin isn't given the same level of respect! Our own inferiority complex and reverence towards "SENA" has emboldened this rogue team to prepare garbage wickets. As long as we have fans that grovel at Sena's feet for validation things won't change. Respect yourself first before you respect others. Or just I don't know? Die ? Lol nevada 1
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