Congratulations to South Africa for winning a test the first time against India in Wanderers

[coffee_rules]

That's the post!!

 

Edited January 6, 2022 by coffee_rules

[Vijy]

38 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

That's the post!!

 

if that happens, records are meant to be broken after all.

Edited January 6, 2022 by Vijy

[Sean Bradley]

So have they won already?

[Majestic]

Amazing.

 

No Dale Steyn

No Kallis

No ABDV

No Smith

No Amla

No Philander

No Morkel

No Kohli

 

Yet, South Africa beat India at Wanderers.

[Vijy]

37 minutes ago, Majestic said:

Amazing.

 

No Dale Steyn

No Kallis

No ABDV

No Smith

No Amla

No Philander

No Morkel

No Kohli

 

Yet, South Africa beat India at Wanderers.

No Abbot, no Conway, no Harmer, etc. SA B cantering to a win?

[Majestic]

36 minutes ago, Vijy said:

No Abbot, no Conway, no Harmer, etc. SA B cantering to a win?

No Qdk also 

 

And, no Rohit as well!

[AuxiliA]

2 hours ago, Majestic said:

Amazing.

 

No Dale Steyn

No Kallis

No ABDV

No Smith

No Amla

No Philander

No Morkel

No Kohli

 

Yet, South Africa beat India at Wanderers.

 

 

[Jay]

Best s.african side under smith of 2011 drew with weak old decrepit india at home. 6 months before they got flatlined by England 4 0 and Aussies 4 0. Waah waah. 

 

[sensible-indian]

1 minute ago, Jay said:

Best s.african side under smith of 2011 drew with weak old decrepit india at home. 6 months before they got flatlined by England 4 0 and Aussies 4 0. Waah waah. 

 

2010 India was strong.

 

They won in NZ in 2009.

 

Almost won in SA in 2010.

 

By 2011, all of the batters lost their form.

[Chakdephatte]

2 hours ago, Majestic said:

And, no Rohit as well!

[Jay]

1 minute ago, sensible-indian said:

2010 India was strong.

 

They won in NZ in 2009.

 

Almost won in SA in 2010.

 

By 2011, all of the batters lost their form.

That was one of the weakest kiwi team of all time. Go look at the bowling we feasted on. It was a declining side. We lost just 6 months after s.africa series to England 4 0

[sensible-indian]

6 minutes ago, Jay said:

That was one of the weakest kiwi team of all time. Go look at the bowling we feasted on. It was a declining side. We lost just 6 months after s.africa series to England 4 0

That was a weak NZ.

 

But 2010 SA was a legendary team.

 

At one point, there were ALMOST about to lose the series when Kallis and Boucher saved them.

 

2010 Indian team was a gun team.

[Jay]

1 minute ago, sensible-indian said:

That was a weak NZ.

 

But 2010 SA was a legendary team.

 

At one point, there were ALMOST about to lose the series when Kallis and Boucher saved them.

 

2010 Indian team was a gun team.

2010 yes. But 2011 they declined massively. Maybe WC win also played a role in our downfall 

[Majestic]

8 minutes ago, Jay said:

That was one of the weakest kiwi team of all time. Go look at the bowling we feasted on. It was a declining side. We lost just 6 months after s.africa series to England 4 0

Between 2007-11, Zaheer was at peak of his career and so were all our batsman. After 2011 World Cup, perhaps things changed, players were well past prime and also the lack of motivation to win away test matches after winning the World Cup.

[Majestic]

4 minutes ago, sensible-indian said:

That was a weak NZ.

 

But 2010 SA was a legendary team.

 

At one point, there were ALMOST about to lose the series when Kallis and Boucher saved them.

 

2010 Indian team was a gun team.

2010 SA was great but addition of Philander in early 2012 made them even more stronger in SENA conditions till about 2014 when Kallis and Smith retired.

Edited January 6, 2022 by Majestic

[Jay]

Just now, Majestic said:

Between 2007-11, Zaheer was at peak of his career and so were all our batsman. After 2011 World Cup, perhaps things changed, players were well past prime and also the lack of motivation to win away test matches after winning the World Cup.

Yea possibly. Remember right now our batting is also past it. We have been number 1 for 5 years. Almost 6 now. 

 

Our bowling Is gun but in this game we had a Man down. 

 

All I am saying is current s Africa is a young exciting team with insane potential. Some of these guys will be future stars. So don't be surprised if they can beat top sides at home. Sure we will massacre them at our home but they will compete well in their conditions and possibly beat top sides too.

[Jay]

1 minute ago, Majestic said:

2010 SA was great but addition of Philander in early 2012 made them even more stronger in SENA conditions till about 2014 when Kallis and Smith retired.

2012 kalis was already kind of past it tbh. Amla and abd took over. 

Smith declined etc post 2012.

[Majestic]

2 minutes ago, Jay said:

2012 kalis was already kind of past it tbh. Amla and abd took over. 

Smith declined etc post 2012.

They beat one of the greatest England sides in their backyard in last 50 years in 2012. The same England side had beaten India in India in same year.

[Jay]

2 minutes ago, Majestic said:

They beat one of the greatest England sides in their backyard in last 50 years in 2012. The same England side had beaten India in India in same year.

The Indian side England beat was one of our weakest sides though. Everyone was past it and retired right after. All the main players. Bowling was a joke. 

[Majestic]

Just now, Jay said:

The Indian side England beat was one of our weakest sides though. Everyone was past it and retired right after. All the main players. Bowling was a joke. 

This I agree that Indian side was one of the weakest ever. But that England side were going pretty strong between 2009-12 and South Africa beat them in their backyard quite convincingly in 2012.