IPL Auction 2022- Team Reviews (quality of IPL will suffer this year)

[Sonix768]

Is there any decent spinner in SRH? All I can see is Sundar and Gopal and I don't see them a s threat to opponents. For all that money they had, SRH could have gotten a decent replacement for Rashid. Going all out pace might backfire heavily.

 

And, I still don't know why they didn't retain Rashid in the first place for 16 cr. Williamson wouldn't have refused to take the second retention place or even third. 

[sensible-indian]

CSK's post 2018 success has been a mystery.

 

Dhoni the captain has got a lot to do with it for sure.

 

But now with everyone hyping up CSK...I won't be surprised if they bomb big lol.

 

CSK's ultimate strength has been its middle order with a strong Indian core.

 

(Take a look at the teams that win IPL consistently and you will see they have a rock solid middle order to control the game).

 

CSK in the past had Raina/Dhoni along with Hussey, Morkel, Bravo.

 

Then Raina/Dhoni with Rayudu.

 

Now with Raina gone...Dhoni over the hill...Rayudu probably old with unknown form...Uthappa too old

 

It will be interesting to see how they perform.

Edited February 15, 2022 by sensible-indian

[sensible-indian]

36 minutes ago, Cricspin said:

 

 

I think they will play Dube in the same role as Raina. Jadeja will contribute a few matches and Rayudu will do the same. Dhoni does not need to do much as he did nothing last time around either. They have Ruturaj up front and then Moeen Ali to accelerate. Pretorious and Bravo are more all round options. Conway may surprise at the top. 

 

Ruturaj

Conway/Jagadeesan

Moeen

Dube

Rayudu

Jadeja

Dhoni

Bravo/Pretorious

D Chahar

A Milne

 

I have 10 members here. They can field a competing 11 easily against any team. They will always have 6 bowling options minimum.

No doubt they have a well rounded lineup but I am talking about middle order.

 

Players who can control the game.

 

Moeen is someone who will take the game away from you but isn't a controller.

 

Neither is Jaddu (who can again be devastating on his day and give a flourish in the end),

 

Dube/Uthappa - Rayudu - Jadeja - Dhoni might flop due to old age.

 

But then it might not happen but if they flop...everyone will wonder what happened to CSK.

 

The fortunes of a team lies in how good their middle order is.

 

That's why RR, PBKS, RCB and so many others struggle inspite of big names.

 

SRH of 2016 was an aberration due to Warner.....

 

When Kings XI Punjab's middle order bats (Maxwell and Miller) struck rich form in 2014...they looked invincible. It took a crazy knock by Manish Pandey to deny them the title (similar to Bisla in 2012 who denied CSK the title - although CSK needed lots of luck to reach playoffs that year...but in the playoffs they were incredible).

 

Punjab from 2018 and 2019 would have EASILY made playoffs and might have even been title contenders if they had a middle order controller or two which they never had.

Edited February 15, 2022 by sensible-indian

[zen]

Many KKR fans appear to be disappointed with the auction. Found the below on YT:

 

 

[bowl_out]

4 hours ago, sensible-indian said:

CSK's post 2018 success has been a mystery.

 

Dhoni the captain has got a lot to do with it for sure.

 

But now with everyone hyping up CSK...I won't be surprised if they bomb big lol.

 

CSK's ultimate strength has been its middle order with a strong Indian core.

 

(Take a look at the teams that win IPL consistently and you will see they have a rock solid middle order to control the game).

 

CSK in the past had Raina/Dhoni along with Hussey, Morkel, Bravo.

 

Then Raina/Dhoni with Rayudu.

 

Now with Raina gone...Dhoni over the hill...Rayudu probably old with unknown form...Uthappa too old

 

It will be interesting to see how they perform.

 

I disagree that their strength is their middle order.. Their strength is their top order..

 

First it was Hayden/Vijay, then Smith/Mccullum, then Ruturaj/Faf.. they are among the few teams where both their openers fire..

Their middle order support the good starts they get.. First it was Raina and Badri, now it is Moeen/Rayudu.. 

 

Rayudu/Uthappa can still do fine for another couple of years.. Uthappa shouldn't get bogged down as he did with KKR.. He might be able to play freely given that there are so many all rounders to follow him..

 

The concern is what happens after two years.. They need able replacements after that.. Whether Jaggi / Hari Nishant / Dube can carry that forward remains to be seen.. Hari is a top order batsman.. Jaggi is an opener as well, although he does play in the middle order at times.. Dube is a proven failure with other franchisees.. Whether Dhoni can turn him around remains to be seen.

 

[sensible-indian]

2 hours ago, bowl_out said:

 

I disagree that their strength is their middle order.. Their strength is their top order..

 

First it was Hayden/Vijay, then Smith/Mccullum, then Ruturaj/Faf.. they are among the few teams where both their openers fire..

Their middle order support the good starts they get.. First it was Raina and Badri, now it is Moeen/Rayudu.. 

 

Rayudu/Uthappa can still do fine for another couple of years.. Uthappa shouldn't get bogged down as he did with KKR.. He might be able to play freely given that there are so many all rounders to follow him..

 

The concern is what happens after two years.. They need able replacements after that.. Whether Jaggi / Hari Nishant / Dube can carry that forward remains to be seen.. Hari is a top order batsman.. Jaggi is an opener as well, although he does play in the middle order at times.. Dube is a proven failure with other franchisees.. Whether Dhoni can turn him around remains to be seen.

 

I used to think that way too.

 

The truth is that there are many many many teams with good top order but they don't necessarily win.

 

CSK had the power of prime Raina - Dhoni - Hussey (past before he opened) - Rayudu (later)

 

Raina and Dhoni controlled games like crazy. This allowed CSK to give a free reign to other bats who could play their role well.

 

The only other team with a killer middle order was MI.

 

SKY - Ishan - Pandya bros - Pollard

 

MI won countless games that they should have lost due to Pandya, Pandya and Pollard combo.

 

Btw, I don't expect CSK's middle order to fire this year.

[Vijy]

9 hours ago, Sonix768 said:

Is there any decent spinner in SRH? All I can see is Sundar and Gopal and I don't see them a s threat to opponents. For all that money they had, SRH could have gotten a decent replacement for Rashid. Going all out pace might backfire heavily.

 

And, I still don't know why they didn't retain Rashid in the first place for 16 cr. Williamson wouldn't have refused to take the second retention place or even third. 

I think that's about it. they went in for a pace-heavy approach

[afan]

6 hours ago, Vijy said:

I think that's about it. they went in for a pace-heavy approach

I still think a QDK was more valuable than a Pooran especially when you end spending 60% more for a fluke.

They haven't gone for a like for like player this time, so tough to understand their strategy which seems to have changed suddenly. 

Kane the captain, and the 2 young fast bowlers along with Tripathi seems to be the Core team for me for SRH

[Ankit_sharma03]

12 minutes ago, afan said:

I still think a QDK was more valuable than a Pooran especially when you end spending 60% more for a fluke.

absolutely

[Ankit_sharma03]

12 minutes ago, afan said:

I still think a QDK was more valuable than a Pooran especially when you end spending 60% more for a fluke.

absolutely

[Ankit_sharma03]

 

Ok the teams that i missed

 

X factor- Butler, Samson, hetymer 

 

	First XI	Batting heavy
1	Jaiswal	Jaiswal/ DDP
2	Butler	butler
3	DDP	Samson
4	samson	RVD
5	Hetymer	Hetymer
6	Riyan parag	Riyan parag
7	Neeshan/ NCN	NCN
8	Ashwin	Ashwin
9	Krishna	Krishna
10	boult	Saini
11	Chahal	Chahal

 

• Despite having solid XI, i feel something is missing- X factor in bowling 
• Krishna n Saini can prove to be very expensive 
• I feel they shud play one among jaiswal n ddp not both 

 

Really cant say how they ll do, its a good team but nothing exciting TBH

 

 

[Ankit_sharma03]

 

	First XI	Batting heavy
1	Warner	Warner
2	Shaw	Shaw
3	Marsh	Marsh
4	pant	pant
5	sarfraz/ Mandeep/ Yash dhull / Lalit	Rovman powell
6	sarfraz/ Mandeep/ Yash dhull / Lalit	sarfraz/ Mandeep/ Yash dhull
7	Axar	Axar
8	Kuldeep	Kuldeep
9	Khaleel/ Nagarkotti/Thakur	Thakur/ Nagarkotti
10	Fizz/ Lungi	Khaleel/Sakaria
11	Nortje	Nortje

 

 

X factor - Warner, marsh, shaw, pant, nortje 

 

• Ill always prefer to go bowling heavy so nortje-fizz for me
• Post pant-shaw their indian contingent can become a problem if they dont come good- Thakur, kuldeep, sarfraz can all become minuses 
• 5-7 , if they wanna play 2 overseas bowler can be an extreme area of concern 
• If kuldeep struggles, they are struggling in spin dept with only Axar left
• Warner will be a man on a mission
• It will be interesting to see how nortje operate without rabada 
• Marsh can get injured anytime 

 

They shud do well, but they have holes n quite a few