Who will win WT20 2022 (Points Table)

[SM2907]

All betting sites have put Pakistan as favourates to win the WT20

[vayuu1]

Apni m@@ c hu. Jo bhi jeetey 

[Vijy]

Pak will win - good tourney for them. luck helped them a bit, but they made their own luck to an extent

[vvvslaxman]

4 hours ago, Vijy said:

Pak will win - good tourney for them. luck helped them a bit, but they made their own luck to an extent

 

Their real luck was all the important matches happened on less pacy pitches except MCG India match. They were up against Zimbabwe at Perth. Lost it. They played at Adelaide oval, SCG (twice). It played a big part. India ran into England on a possibly worst pitch for Indian bowling line up. Litton Das already showed that.

[Frustrated]

Both Pak and Eng are going to be joint winners.  Looking at the rain scenario.  

[Number]

Just now, vvvslaxman said:

 

Their real luck was all the important matches happened on less pacy pitches except MCG India match. They were up against Zimbabwe at Perth. Lost it. They played at Adelaide oval, SCG (twice). It played a big part. India ran into England on a possibly worst pitch for Indian bowling line up. Litton Das already showed that.

 

Afghanistan Australia match too showed that.

Adelaide is sluggish batting first but gets better under light. Australia could only score 169 against Afghanistan and Afghanistan fell short by only 4 runs.

 

[sage]

On 11/10/2022 at 3:03 AM, SM2907 said:

All betting sites have put Pakistan as favourates to win the WT20

No longer the case.

[coffee_rules]

Who cares, this sunday at 3 am, I will  

[Vijy]

6 hours ago, coffee_rules said:

Who cares, this sunday at 3 am, I will  

when you come back, icf will be overrun with trolls thanks to pak victory in 2022. as the Eng footer fans say, it's coming home (albeit to pak)

[coffee_rules]

18 minutes ago, Vijy said:

when you come back, icf will be overrun with trolls thanks to pak victory in 2022. as the Eng footer fans say, it's coming home (albeit to pak)

Shubh shubh bol , saale (pardon my French)

[Vijy]

12 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

Shubh shubh bol , saale (pardon my French)

it will get ugly., mods will be busy, I think

[Pakistan]

1 hour ago, Vijy said:

when you come back, icf will be overrun with trolls thanks to pak victory in 2022. as the Eng footer fans say, it's coming home (albeit to pak)

It is free ticket to World Cup title for Pakistan. They were never meant to be in it. It was meant to be coronation of India as Champions of the World.

[coffee_rules]

7 minutes ago, Pakistan said:

It is free ticket to World Cup title for Pakistan. They were never meant to be in it. It was meant to be coronation of India as Champions of the World.

Lottery mein koi champion nahi hota mere bhai!

[Vijy]

57 minutes ago, Pakistan said:

It is free ticket to World Cup title for Pakistan. They were never meant to be in it. It was meant to be coronation of India as Champions of the World.

I am not counting you as a troll, but it is undeniable that many such people have manifested on the forum.

 

congrats on winning the title. you had a spicy pace attack, and I enjoyed seeing them bowl. Ind chose a bad team, played badly, and its lack of talent got shown up

[Sharjah-Harjah]

As a keen Pakistani fan of Indian cricket for past 20 years, I want to share 3 unbiased observations:

 

1) Too much focus on batting in India. On any ground, any pitch, 168 is a good target. It’s not a bad target. But to defend it, India needed to take wickets! 

But if there is no swing on offer, what else did this bowling attack have to take wickets? 
There was no extra pace to deceive the batsman with change of pace. There was no extra bounce /exceptionally tall bowler. There was no reverse swing. There were no deceptive slower bumpers. 

There was no mystery spinner or leg spinner. India played 2 defensive spin options. They played 2 finger-spinners IN AUS to contain and because of their “batting ability” and went out of their way to avoid ATTACKING options like Bishnoi, Kuldeep, and Chahal, all of whom could have been a handful here. 
 

No matter what Indian pundits and posters say, PACE DOES MATTER. Anyone whose held a bat in their life will agree with this. There is a reason Pak bowling does well and that’s pace. India should have brought Umran Malik or someone like him. The obsession with batting and step fatherly treatment toward bowling is not gonna help India win big.
 

2. Obsession with orthodoxy/conventional thinking:

Where are the young gun batsmen? Where is the innovation?

India plays conventional top 3. In case of Pak, it’s the best Pak got.
But why haven’t Ishan Kishan, Pant, Samson, Shaw been allowed to cut loose in T20 cricket yet? 
There seems to be an obsession with “experience” and this is why Ashwin, Shami, KL Rahul and many others are preferred over T20 specialists. 
 

3. Love and Hate relationship with T20 cricket aka T20 is a “lottery” format. I keep reading on this forum T20 is a lottery format. It’s the dumbest comment I’ve ever read. If it’s a lottery, then why are 4 of the top 5 ICC ranked teams in the semis? Why didn’t random teams make the semis? Yes margins are small, but better teams do win more consistently. 
There is over elevation of Test cricket and obsession for “all

format players” like Ashwin, Shami seem to be preferred because they are Test class. But just because you do well in test cricket, it doesn’t mean you’re the best, it just means you do well in test cricket.
India should respect all formats equally and elevate the best talent for the specific format. 
 

in conclusion, most of these issues are prevalent in Pakistan, but less so. Case in point is Mohammad Haris. The batsman from reserves thrown in the deep with no domestic or international experience. Haris hasn’t even played a complete first class season. He went straight from reserves as backup keeper to plying 11. Would india make such audacious choices or plan/play it safe? 

Edited November 12, 2022 by Sharjah-Harjah

[coffee_rules]

11 hours ago, Sharjah-Harjah said:

As a keen Pakistani fan of Indian cricket for past 20 years, I want to share 3 unbiased observations:

 

1) Too much focus on batting in India. On any ground, any pitch, 168 is a good target. It’s not a bad target. But to defend it, India needed to take wickets! 

But if there is no swing on offer, what else did this bowling attack have to take wickets? 
There was no extra pace to deceive the batsman with change of pace. There was no extra bounce /exceptionally tall bowler. There was no reverse swing. There were no deceptive slower bumpers. 

There was no mystery spinner or leg spinner. India played 2 defensive spin options. They played 2 finger-spinners IN AUS to contain and because of their “batting ability” and went out of their way to avoid ATTACKING options like Bishnoi, Kuldeep, and Chahal, all of whom could have been a handful here. 
 

No matter what Indian pundits and posters say, PACE DOES MATTER. Anyone whose held a bat in their life will agree with this. There is a reason Pak bowling does well and that’s pace. India should have brought Umran Malik or someone like him. The obsession with batting and step fatherly treatment toward bowling is not gonna help India win big.
 

2. Obsession with orthodoxy/conventional thinking:

Where are the young gun batsmen? Where is the innovation?

India plays conventional top 3. In case of Pak, it’s the best Pak got.
But why haven’t Ishan Kishan, Pant, Samson, Shaw been allowed to cut loose in T20 cricket yet? 
There seems to be an obsession with “experience” and this is why Ashwin, Shami, KL Rahul and many others are preferred over T20 specialists. 
 

3. Love and Hate relationship with T20 cricket aka T20 is a “lottery” format. I keep reading on this forum T20 is a lottery format. It’s the dumbest comment I’ve ever read. If it’s a lottery, then why are 4 of the top 5 ICC ranked teams in the semis? Why didn’t random teams make the semis? Yes margins are small, but better teams do win more consistently. 
There is over elevation of Test cricket and obsession for “all

format players” like Ashwin, Shami seem to be preferred because they are Test class. But just because you do well in test cricket, it doesn’t mean you’re the best, it just means you do well in test cricket.
India should respect all formats equally and elevate the best talent for the specific format. 
 

in conclusion, most of these issues are prevalent in Pakistan, but less so. Case in point is Mohammad Haris. The batsman from reserves thrown in the deep with no domestic or international experience. Haris hasn’t even played a complete first class season. He went straight from reserves as backup keeper to plying 11. Would india make such audacious choices or plan/play it safe? 

very good constructive criticism. Batting first and even 185 was not enough for Pakistan last year SF against Aus, with it’s famed pace bowlers and it looks like you guys were down to exit and wouldn’t have realized your potential, got an opportunity to get back with some fixes like 6 bowling option and backing some good MO batsmen. Very good all-rounder team ticking all checkboxes- pace, spin etc. India team selection needed conditions to win 

[Vijy]

13 hours ago, Sharjah-Harjah said:

As a keen Pakistani fan of Indian cricket for past 20 years, I want to share 3 unbiased observations:

 

1) Too much focus on batting in India. On any ground, any pitch, 168 is a good target. It’s not a bad target. But to defend it, India needed to take wickets! 

But if there is no swing on offer, what else did this bowling attack have to take wickets? 
There was no extra pace to deceive the batsman with change of pace. There was no extra bounce /exceptionally tall bowler. There was no reverse swing. There were no deceptive slower bumpers. 

There was no mystery spinner or leg spinner. India played 2 defensive spin options. They played 2 finger-spinners IN AUS to contain and because of their “batting ability” and went out of their way to avoid ATTACKING options like Bishnoi, Kuldeep, and Chahal, all of whom could have been a handful here. 
 

No matter what Indian pundits and posters say, PACE DOES MATTER. Anyone whose held a bat in their life will agree with this. There is a reason Pak bowling does well and that’s pace. India should have brought Umran Malik or someone like him. The obsession with batting and step fatherly treatment toward bowling is not gonna help India win big.
 

2. Obsession with orthodoxy/conventional thinking:

Where are the young gun batsmen? Where is the innovation?

India plays conventional top 3. In case of Pak, it’s the best Pak got.
But why haven’t Ishan Kishan, Pant, Samson, Shaw been allowed to cut loose in T20 cricket yet? 
There seems to be an obsession with “experience” and this is why Ashwin, Shami, KL Rahul and many others are preferred over T20 specialists. 
 

3. Love and Hate relationship with T20 cricket aka T20 is a “lottery” format. I keep reading on this forum T20 is a lottery format. It’s the dumbest comment I’ve ever read. If it’s a lottery, then why are 4 of the top 5 ICC ranked teams in the semis? Why didn’t random teams make the semis? Yes margins are small, but better teams do win more consistently. 
There is over elevation of Test cricket and obsession for “all

format players” like Ashwin, Shami seem to be preferred because they are Test class. But just because you do well in test cricket, it doesn’t mean you’re the best, it just means you do well in test cricket.
India should respect all formats equally and elevate the best talent for the specific format. 
 

in conclusion, most of these issues are prevalent in Pakistan, but less so. Case in point is Mohammad Haris. The batsman from reserves thrown in the deep with no domestic or international experience. Haris hasn’t even played a complete first class season. He went straight from reserves as backup keeper to plying 11. Would india make such audacious choices or plan/play it safe? 

agreed, this is a solid post that makes many valid points

[vvvslaxman]

England as i predicted lol

[KaenMok]

Host India is sure to be the tournament favorite, as they are currently ranked #3 in the current ICC T20 rankings. Australia is now number 1 in the world in the ICC T20 rankings. They have a solid team and are clear contenders for next year's trophy. The 2019 ICC World Cup winners are #2 in the T20 rankings and seek their second ICC trophy. Although the West Indies are currently ranked 10th in the world, the reigning champions do have the experience and know-how to win ICC T20 World Championships, and their very experienced team is led by Keiron Pollard. I'll be sure to keep an eye on the results, and I'll even place a bet or two on some of the meetings at https://iccwin1.com/casino/.

Edited November 29, 2022 by KaenMok