The Ashes 2023

[Nikola]

Great session for england today, waiting to see how australia bowl and set fields when england comes to bat.

[wazza]

3 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

If England had an in-out field instead of ultra aggressive field set Australia would not have scored even at this rate. They were a bit defensive even in Pakistan that is why they couldn't white wash them. THey let Gobar Azam make 196 runs.

Aus are same as us. Very defensive side under rohit. Most useless captain is rohit. Even Cummins is better than him. 

 

[wazza]

1 minute ago, Nikola said:

Great session for england today, waiting to see how australia bowl and set fields when england comes to bat.

Bowling to a plan and setting fields according to opponents is a skill that needs to be seriously addressed by all captains. 

[Nikola]

Just now, wazza said:

Bowling to a plan and setting fields according to opponents is a skill that needs to be seriously addressed by all captains. 

Don't think cummins is capable of doing that greatly. Smith should take over field changes if they are serious about winning this match.

[Frustrated]

1 minute ago, wazza said:

Bowling to a plan and setting fields according to opponents is a skill that needs to be seriously addressed by all captains. 

Problem is Indian pace bowlers are NOT used to bowl a continous barrage of perfected bouncers on a channel.  Like how Eng did this session to the last 4 lower order batsmen.     Even if the field is set for bouncer, our bowlers would bowl wayward and leak runs.  

[wazza]

2 minutes ago, Frustrated said:

Problem is Indian pace bowlers are NOT used to bowl a continous barrage of perfected bouncers on a channel.  Like how Eng did this session to the last 4 lower order batsmen.     Even if the field is set for bouncer, our bowlers would bowl wayward and leak runs.  

We are really world class under arun. We bowled to a tee. 

 

Ever since paras took over We don't so it. 

 

I can see why too. India. Bowlers are shorter without ishant so it will take more out of the body to bowl bouncers. That's why we need to have variety in attack. No sameness. 

In indian pitches it's unheard of to bowl constant short pitch bowling. I am sure our players can adapt. We just need a good coach like arun back. It's much harder to bowl in India than sena as a fast bowler. 

[vvvslaxman]

3 minutes ago, wazza said:

We are really world class under arun. We bowled to a tee. 

 

Ever since paras took over We don't so it. 

 

I can see why too. India. Bowlers are shorter without ishant so it will take more out of the body to bowl bouncers. That's why we need to have variety in attack. No sameness. 

In indian pitches it's unheard of to bowl constant short pitch bowling. I am sure our players can adapt. We just need a good coach like arun back. It's much harder to bowl in India than sena as a fast bowler. 

 

India needs variety in their unit. Or Bowlers should be able to bowl different types of deliveries. I saw Anderson bowling a knuckle ball out of the blue y day to exploit the slowness of the pitch. Despite lack of pace they have enough weapons in their armory which they developed over the years. Bumrah & Ishant were outstanding combo in most conditions. Shami was good in certain conditions. Once those 2 went out our fast b owling unit become very limited

 

[wazza]

2 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

India needs variety in their unit. Or Bowlers should be able to bowl different types of deliveries. I saw Anderson bowling a knuckle ball out of the blue y day to exploit the slowness of the pitch. Despite lack of pace they have enough weapons in their armory which they developed over the years. Bumrah & Ishant were outstanding combo in most conditions. Shami was good in certain conditions. Once those 2 went out our fast b owling unit become very limited

 

Tyagi pradidh should be next in line. Just need to stay fit. But with nca you know what will happen. 

Then there is Sen and harshit rana. Loads of talent is there. Need to give opportunities. India find it difficult to displace established stars. That's our problem.

[vvvslaxman]

7 minutes ago, wazza said:

Tyagi pradidh should be next in line. Just need to stay fit. But with nca you know what will happen. 

Then there is Sen and harshit rana. Loads of talent is there. Need to give opportunities. India find it difficult to displace established stars. That's our problem.

 

 

If a 19 year old bowl like this today we would have hyped to the hilt

 

 

[wazza]

5 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

 

If a 19 year old bowl like this today we would have hyped to the hilt

 

 

They can. All youngsters beauty performed in aus 2021 and vs england at home. Just let them play. Results will come. 

[vvvslaxman]

14 minutes ago, wazza said:

Tyagi pradidh should be next in line. Just need to stay fit. But with nca you know what will happen. 

Then there is Sen and harshit rana. Loads of talent is there. Need to give opportunities. India find it difficult to displace established stars. That's our problem.

 

Tyagi has good height. Reasonably uncomplicated action. But in order to master long format bowling he needs some long spells under his belt in first class. He cannot directly experiment that in Tests. Prasidh has some experience. But he has to stay fit. Cannot go missing due to injury often. Then you can't build an unit. Ideall you need a pool 7 or 8 bowlers who are all more or less equally good.

[vvvslaxman]

Just now, wazza said:

They can. All youngsters beauty performed in aus 2021 and vs england at home. Just let them play. Results will come. 

 

Dynamics has changed. IPL has taken precedence now. Bowlers will look ony to hone their T20 skills these days to market themselves rather than Test bowling skill.  Look at Kishan. He is willingly skipping Duleep Trophy.

[vvvslaxman]

Back to match.  Will England declare by EOD?

[Kothili]

This is a shyt pitch. You can play bazball, azzball, baseball and whatever TF ball and project like geniuses. England are real pussies.

Edited June 18, 2023 by Kothili

[vvvslaxman]

Josh will be the threat more than Cummins

[vvvslaxman]

Seems like Australia will be semi defensive. There is a deep square leg straight away

[vvvslaxman]

1 minute ago, Kothili said:

This is a shyt pitch. You can play bazball, azzball, baseball and whatever TF ball and project like geniuses. England are real pussies.

 

What do you call indore pitch then.  Atleast edgbaston offers some turn. That had nothing in it.

[vvvslaxman]

So WILLOW is the only option to watch Ashes in US ?

[Tattieboy]

Bring on the declaration!!!, I love seeing Indian and Aussie minds exploding 

[Sgattick10]

I love bazball I want England to win