Major terror attack underway in Gaza Strip

[Swag]

The tiny country of Israel is being/has been attacked by Hamas/Hezbollah/Syria/Egypt/Iran/Iraq/Yemen/Jordan i.e. most of its surrounding neighbors at some point. 

No quarter should be given. 

Any sympathy shown based on bleeding hearts and their postulating based on  skewed logic will only lead to their destruction.

Europe is facing its demise due to its bleeding hearts, Israel cannot afford to do that.

[Laaloo]

1 hour ago, bharathh said:

Should be sent to the bleeding hearts of this forum. 

Good luck getting through their thick skull. They will manage to blame RSS somehow.

[coffee_rules]

3 hours ago, bharathh said:

Should be sent to the bleeding hearts of this forum. 

Blind to History, their world thinks the present status is like this from Day 1. It has taken several car and bus bombings, Oct7ths, stabbing for the situation to reach the present stage. 

Edited November 15, 2024 by coffee_rules

[coffee_rules]

Which one are you?

 

[zen]

5 hours ago, Swag said:

The tiny country of Israel is being/has been attacked by Hamas/Hezbollah/Syria/Egypt/Iran/Iraq/Yemen/Jordan i.e. most of its surrounding neighbors at some point. 

That appears more like the 20th century narrative.
 

Currently, Israeli is occupying Palestinian lands, conducting “terrorism” (unless it is only supposed to be through bombs) almost everyday through its extremists by creating illegal settlements (against international law) in the West Bank (Around 700 Palestinians were killed by the extremist settlers in the last year in the West Bank), while turning Gaza into more or less a refugee colony living in an open air prison. 
 

As an ex-IDF official said - “Hamas did not make the conflict. Conflict made Hamas”. Btw, Israel was happy with Hamas as it divided the Palestinians and allowed Israel to portray Gaza as a hostile area. Israel is said to have secretly funded Hamas too.
 

If you look into the extremist Netanyahu, you will find that he usually shows up to derail any peace process and to silence Palestinian voice. He is said to believe in the concept of “Greater Israel”.

 

 

In the 21st century, Israel can end the issue if it simply allows Palestine to exist. In the modern times, no one is asking Israel (which is opposed by many Jews btw) to vacate the land allocated to it. The narrative of Israel should not exist exists because Israel does not allow Palestine to exist. Ironically, it could be the Palestinians presence that is probably preventing a nuclear attack on Israel. 
 

Currently, Israel is being taken to court for genocide in Gaza by South Africa, supported by Norway, Spain, and Ireland. Both Human Rights Watch and UN have recently released reports of genocide in Gaza by Israel (over 40,000 people including women and children have been killed by Israel in Gaza in the last year). 

 

 

 

Israel can no longer act with impunity assuming that world is still blindly accepting Muslims to be automatically at fault.  
 

 

 

It is sad to see the people who suffered Holocaust (and earned goodwill) are now creating a Holocaust for others (and destroying the goodwill for them).
 

 

Below is a wonderful speech by Norway at ICJ:

 

 

Must listen for those who can see the issue from both sides  

 

 

Edited November 15, 2024 by zen

[coffee_rules]

There are 1.782 million Arab Muslims living in Israel as citizens. They make 21% of Israel population. Their number is growing. They might be facing discrimination anecdotically, but one can’t claim widespread genocide. In 2021, they even had political representation. 
 

https://www.allmep.org/resources/the-muslim-population-in-israel-2024-israel-central-bureau-of-statistics/#:~:text= At the end of,(2.2% in 2022).

 

A lot of Palestinians refused to become refugees and stayed back in Israel . Too much narrative is spent on the Palestine victimhood, but nobody to listen to such voices. They have their own  “Al Nakba” stories. 

 

The number of Arabs in Palestine (combined nation) 1.2 mill in 1948 and after partition in WB 700000. How can the narrative be set that there are 7 mil refugees of Palestine.  Nobody knows about close to 2 mil Arabs living in Israel!! The reason is they don’t make these terrorist sympathizing  videos
 

 

Edited November 15, 2024 by coffee_rules

[zen]

A summary of the extremist Israeli’ illegal settlement in the West Bank:

 

 

Everyday “terrorism” to steal land:

 

 

 

Violence even against Israeli anti settlers activists:

 

Over the last 70+ years, one community has become prosperous (also receives military and economic aid in billions of dollars from countries widely considered as evil such as the US) and continues to expand its territories; while the other community continues to remain oppressed and discriminated against, watches its lands being taken away, lives as refugees (Many since 1948 in Gaza. It is believed that once Palestinians leave an area, they have never been able to return to those areas), and not even allowed to prosper.
 

In Gaza:

 

 

Below in the Israeli occupied West Bank:

 

 

 

No wonder even many Jews distance themselves from Israel:

 

 

Hopefully, we will see a two-state solution!

[coffee_rules]

Pragmatic approach. Funny . But Israel will stretch until all hostages are released or confirmed dead. For Israel, Oct 7 is the straw that broke the camel’s bac

 

 

[Laaloo]

2 hours ago, coffee_rules said:

Pragmatic approach. Funny . But Israel will stretch until all hostages are released or confirmed dead. For Israel, Oct 7 is the straw that broke the camel’s bac

 

 

Not defending them but Israel is going all out to make sure October 7 never happens again. No half measures. This is their chance. They're going to do whatever it takes.

[ravishingravi]

Historically has there ever been a war / regional conflict that has ended with peace treaty. I mean ended for good. 

[coffee_rules]

23 minutes ago, ravishingravi said:

Historically has there ever been a war / regional conflict that has ended with peace treaty. I mean ended for good. 

Israel  - Egypt

USA - Mexico

UK - Ireland

 

[zen]

Over the years, Palestine itself has suffered in a variety of ways - its back was broken a long time ago.

 

Netanyahu is an extremist who has always derailed the peace process (said to be directly or indirectly involved with the assassination of relatively peace loving PM Rabin) and Palestinian voice (allowed an increase in illegal settlements in the West Bank). He is like Duryodhana in Mahabharata who did not want to give Pandavas anything. 

He has weaponsized Oct 7 to try to resettle Gaza:

 

 

Even many Israelis know that he only cares about his agenda:

 

 

Edited November 16, 2024 by zen

[zen]

On the dangerous rise of ultra nationalism in Israel:

 

 

PS a doc by Arte:

 

 

Edited November 16, 2024 by zen

[coffee_rules]

Kanedians attacked by Pro-Hamas terrorists in Kaneda

 

 

[Laaloo]

2 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

Kanedians attacked by Pro-Hamas terrorists in Kaneda

 

 

What do you expect from ungrateful idiots who chant death to Canada? Between khalistanis and Hamas sympathizers, Canada has their hands full. Good luck Canada. You let snakes grow in your country and then this happens.

[ravishingravi]

1 hour ago, coffee_rules said:

Israel  - Egypt

USA - Mexico

UK - Ireland

 

 

Well all three cases, the enemy was completely demolished if I am not mistaken. 

 

Trying to understand if ever a conflict can be ended for good. My sense is invariably the victor has overwhelmed the enemy and caused large casualty in process. Talking lasting peace. 

Edited November 16, 2024 by ravishingravi

[zen]

8 minutes ago, Laaloo said:

What do you expect from ungrateful idiots who chant death to Canada? Between khalistanis and Hamas sympathizers, Canada has their hands full. Good luck Canada. You let snakes grow in your country and then this happens.

 

“Shouting” is no big deal when 40,000+ people were killed in Gaza itself by Israel in the last 12 months. 
 

Edited November 16, 2024 by zen

[Laaloo]

Just now, zen said:

 

“Shouting” is ok when 40,000+ people in Gaza itself in the last 12 months. 
 

 

Yeah I remember them shouting  and celebrating alright when thousands of Israelis were massacred on October 7.  They can show their support without chanting death to the country they live in. You hate it? Then they can * off and go back to their medieval country.

[zen]

Just now, Laaloo said:

Yeah I remember them shouting  and celebrating alright when thousands of Israelis were massacred on October 7.  They can show their support without chanting death to the country they live in. You hate it? Then they can * off and go back to their medieval country.

Israel has been terrorizing Palestinians for 70+ years. Even many Israelis celebrate when Palestinians are killed (or when they steal their land, destroy their homes, etc).
 

[coffee_rules]

11 hours ago, Laaloo said:

Not defending them but Israel is going all out to make sure October 7 never happens again. No half measures. This is their chance. They're going to do whatever it takes.

42000 dead and Hamas/PIJ still will not care enough for Palestinians to release rest of the hostages . With a rag tag bunch of terrorists with rockets and automatic weapons, what are they talking of retaliation against IDF, a modern army, to get back at Israeli occupation in WB? You don’t shoot rockets at civilians to negotiate economic blockade in Gaza , the very reason economic blockade was imposed on Gaza for building rockets using aid money! This is called Lahori logic . Look at this mofo still defending. Hamas is not a militant/extremist organization. They are a fcuking Terrorist organization also representing the people of Gaza as a political representative. Bawasir of ME