RJman Posted January 2, 2024 Posted January 2, 2024 1. Australia beats India in finals to win Test Championship 2. Australia beats India to win ODI World Cup. 3. Cummins and Starc are the richest players in IPL. 4. Australian Women's team destroy India in India. Can anyone explain this total domination by the Aussies? Are Indians pathetically mentally and physically weak?
nitinbwj Posted January 2, 2024 Posted January 2, 2024 Dominating only in the match that matters. We beat them quite a few times comprehensively last year.
Lone Wolf Posted January 2, 2024 Posted January 2, 2024 8 minutes ago, nitinbwj said: Dominating only in the match that matters. We beat them quite a few times comprehensively last year. Had to resort of turners to eke out a series win... After Indore test humiliation... Phattu Dravid played on a ultra flat dead Amdavad pitch to snatch a draw. This Aussie side has us covered in Talent & skill I am afraid.
harpicP Posted January 2, 2024 Posted January 2, 2024 32 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said: Had to resort of turners to eke out a series win... After Indore test humiliation... Phattu Dravid played on a ultra flat dead Amdavad pitch to snatch a draw. This Aussie side has us covered in Talent & skill I am afraid. More like we have declined alot They haven't won. Series vs us In a while. But they beat us in wc finals.
harpicP Posted January 2, 2024 Posted January 2, 2024 Remember Cummins is 30 and still in business prime But starc and hazlewood are getting old.
kruiser Posted January 2, 2024 Posted January 2, 2024 1 hour ago, harpicP said: More like we have declined alot They haven't won. Series vs us In a while. But they beat us in wc finals. True.. our team peaked in 2021 - get ready for the 90s style losses in 2024-25 cycle. harpicP 1
vvvslaxman Posted January 2, 2024 Posted January 2, 2024 3 hours ago, RJman said: 1. Australia beats India in finals to win Test Championship 2. Australia beats India to win ODI World Cup. 3. Cummins and Starc are the richest players in IPL. 4. Australian Women's team destroy India in India. Can anyone explain this total domination by the Aussies? Are Indians pathetically mentally and physically weak? Point 4. INdia beat Australia in Test convincingly. Historical achievement.
vvvslaxman Posted January 2, 2024 Posted January 2, 2024 3 hours ago, nitinbwj said: Dominating only in the match that matters. We beat them quite a few times comprehensively last year. Yea in the world cup Australia lost ot India in the preliminary match. Yes they won important Tests. India had no reason not to draw the WTC final also not to win WC final. That is on India.
vvvslaxman Posted January 2, 2024 Posted January 2, 2024 2 hours ago, harpicP said: Remember Cummins is 30 and still in business prime But starc and hazlewood are getting old. Fielding is one of the major difference. Indian women dropped like 7 catches in the 2nd ODI i think. Even in men's cricket there is a massive gulf between fielding standards. Fielding is a barometer whether you are up for a contest or not. Australia always takes their fielding to next level in crunch games, crunch moments. harpicP and Frustrated 2
Frustrated Posted January 2, 2024 Posted January 2, 2024 3 hours ago, Lone Wolf said: Had to resort of turners to eke out a series win... After Indore test humiliation... Phattu Dravid played on a ultra flat dead Amdavad pitch to snatch a draw. This Aussie side has us covered in Talent & skill I am afraid. That was the test series. But we beat them 2-1 in odi series played on flat pattas. Though Starc & Cummins didn't play the first two games. Even T Head was missing in the entire series. Otherwise result could hv been different.
vvvslaxman Posted January 2, 2024 Posted January 2, 2024 15 minutes ago, Frustrated said: That was the test series. But we beat them 2-1 in odi series played on flat pattas. Though Starc & Cummins didn't play the first two games. Even T Head was missing in the entire series. Otherwise result could hv been different. Sum of all parts is always better for Australia. If you give mark to bowling/batting/fielding category of each player and add everything up AUstralia is going to havie much higher points. That helps in crunch games. Bumrah may be better htan cummins. But Bumrah/s bowling/batting/fielding < Cummins batting/bowling/fielding. He beats Bumrah in two departments. If CUmmins fails in bowling department he can always contribute in other areas. Just see the catch of Travis head in the final. You think our players could have pulled that off? I doubt so. We only judge our team based on their best in their specialist department while ignoring how much they don't contribute in other areas. This is why some times seemingly weaker sides do better in tournaments. players have to be very good in two departments bare minimum. That is applicable for the world's best fast bowler and world's best batsman. Norman and Frustrated 2
putrevus Posted January 2, 2024 Posted January 2, 2024 3 hours ago, vvvslaxman said: Sum of all parts is always better for Australia. If you give mark to bowling/batting/fielding category of each player and add everything up AUstralia is going to havie much higher points. That helps in crunch games. Bumrah may be better htan cummins. But Bumrah/s bowling/batting/fielding < Cummins batting/bowling/fielding. He beats Bumrah in two departments. If CUmmins fails in bowling department he can always contribute in other areas. Just see the catch of Travis head in the final. You think our players could have pulled that off? I doubt so. We only judge our team based on their best in their specialist department while ignoring how much they don't contribute in other areas. This is why some times seemingly weaker sides do better in tournaments. players have to be very good in two departments bare minimum. That is applicable for the world's best fast bowler and world's best batsman. They failed in their main skill. Batsmen in batting and bowlers in bowling.
vvvslaxman Posted January 3, 2024 Posted January 3, 2024 3 hours ago, putrevus said: They failed in their main skill. Batsmen in batting and bowlers in bowling. You have to step up in other departments. Australia almost failed to defend 380 odd against NZ. Starc started 50th over with 5 wides. But couple of spectacular fielding effort of Labu saved the day for them. Call it an X factor.
putrevus Posted January 3, 2024 Posted January 3, 2024 8 hours ago, vvvslaxman said: You have to step up in other departments. Australia almost failed to defend 380 odd against NZ. Starc started 50th over with 5 wides. But couple of spectacular fielding effort of Labu saved the day for them. Call it an X factor. No you don’t need to if you are good enough with your main skill. it’s is always good to have secondary skills but they cannot be at the expense of their primary skill. You don’t need more Pandya’s , you need more Cummins or Heads . Indian ground fielding under Kohli was world class but under Dravid and Rohit it has been okay at best. Fielding did not lose the important matches though, catching is different story.
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