Secular Liberal Progressive meltdown

[Muloghonto]

7 hours ago, mishra said:

Let me put simple fact.

Hinduism did not needed modern Democracy to do humane things in past when rest of world was wiping out civilisations and commiting mass genocide, It didnt needed UN or Human rights charter to accept those people in Bharat,  affected by Islam or Christinaty and let them preserve their way of life and worship even thosand years back when India would have been more Hindu then today.

 

Contrarily, Islam and Christinity did committed mass genocide and wiped out civilisations at their peak, even doing same today (Israel Middle East Pakistan Afghanistan). So arent we working against Secularims if we give free Space to these two religions unless we ban Conversion in India(I will say worl) in whatever way.

 

So to conclude, Secularism is flawed concept simply because it gives free space to certain religions who are inherently non Secular

 

Secularism is only needed for absolutist, totalitarian religions with tendency to genocide : islam and christianity.  This is because christian and muslims are the ONLY religions in history of mankind to wage warfare on their own sects ( Shia-Sunni/Catholic-protestant-orthodox) and these religions have repeatedly caused civil wars in their own dominant countries if their kings changed sects, nevermind entire religions. 

Yes, that is correct- not once in history have we seen inter-sectarian warfare in any other religion : mahayana & theravada or vajrayana, digambar-swetambar,vaishnav-shaiva-smarta-advaita etc. have zero history of warring on one other. ever. 

The non abrahamic religions also have very little history of religious warfare. 

 

So secularism isnt necessary and has never been necessary in these religions, as kings have changed their religions wholesale with zero consequences - the famous mauryan dynasty is a good example : Chandragupta was a hindu turned jain, who's son Bindusar was an ajivak (meaning atheistic nihilist), who's son became buddhist, who's grandson became a jain. Did the empire fall apart of enter repeated civil wars ? nope. Now show a single such case amongst christians or muslims prior to secularism, where their population tolerated a king who changed from catholic to protestant ( or vice versa) or shia to sunni ( or vice versa) without the entire country erupting in civil war.

 

This is the reason secularism is invented in these societies, as a coping mechanism against such devastating paralysis and regress. This is also why secularism isnt necessary for non abrahamic religions.

 

[coffee_rules]

She reminds us of one ICFer jo chati peeth peethke ro raha hain

 

 

Mubarak ho! Tumhara mandir; Tumhare Ram; Tumhara dharam; AUR Tumhara ye Bharat- Tumhe Mubarak ho! pic.twitter.com/XcslpthS4g

— Ranting gola (@therantinggola) January 23, 2024

[diga]

2 hours ago, coffee_rules said:

She reminds us of one ICFer jo chati peeth peethke ro raha hain

 

 

Unfortunately the pursuit of liberal arts degree in India has been equated to protesting in front of red fort against establishment ideas..  Getting foul mouthed & abusing every other person. 

[mishra]

13 hours ago, coffee_rules said:

She reminds us of one ICFer jo chati peeth peethke ro raha hain

 

 

I must say, I agree with someone who told our local Congress spokeman  man in a meeting at our home, after listening to his rant about Modi for about 1 hour that "Mishraji ek salaah doon -Congress ka agale chunav mein acchha karegi agar aap apana munh janata ke saamane band rakhe, (Mishraji one advice- Congress will fare better in next elections,  if they dont open their mouth in front of Indian people)". 

 

Man we all started laughing

Edited January 25 by mishra

[someone]

Why is no real work being done to the Masjid allocated in Ayodhya? Why aren't the self-proclaimed secularists or ordinary Muslims asking any questions? That also deserves to discussed and analyzed. Compare that with Hindus, who keep questioning, lamenting Hindu leaders constantly.

 

This again shows the Mandir dispute was more of superiority and ego for where the status quo favored one side. Similarly, they are gonna now gonna vote for SSUBT, thus again showing how ideological they are bankrupt and corrupt. 

[coffee_rules]

19 hours ago, diga said:

Unfortunately the pursuit of liberal arts degree in India has been equated to protesting in front of red fort against establishment ideas..  Getting foul mouthed & abusing every other person. 

Now, after her gaaliwali message, people abused her properly , she is playing the woman victim card and Congressis are reposting how bad BJP supporters are. SM is a cess-pool.