Nikhil_cric Posted July 1, 2024 Share Posted July 1, 2024 (edited) https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/2024-t20-world-cup-smart-stats-how-good-were-india-1441793 Elite impact players have a rating of 40 per match . Most teams had max. 3 such players . India had 6 of these ! In order of rating Hardik Bumrah Axar Rohit Arshdeep Kuldeep @Lord like I mentioned earlier, there is not much to separate Axar and Bumrah. Only Hardik is rated higher. The top 5 impactful batters have been Rohit, SKY, Pandya, Pant and Axar. Basically, Kohli, Dube and Jadeja have been the worst players in the Indian team by far. Impact/ match ratings for the worst players Kohli - 15.6 Siraj - 15.2 Shivam Dube - 12.1 Jadeja - 6.1 Edited July 1, 2024 by Nikhil_cric Number and Adamant 1 1 Link to comment
Nikhil_cric Posted July 1, 2024 Author Share Posted July 1, 2024 4 minutes ago, Tillu said: The real heroes of the World T20. And some actually mentioned that Axar should be dropped after this tournament. Tillu 1 Link to comment
Tillu Posted July 1, 2024 Share Posted July 1, 2024 Even broadcasters should start using smart stats but it is not good for their business since it will expose the players they keep bigging up, like Kohli for instance. Nikhil_cric and express bowling 1 1 Link to comment
Tillu Posted July 1, 2024 Share Posted July 1, 2024 Back in the days there was a guy named Anant on Cricinfo who used to crunch numbers and create lists using various parameters like the kind of opposition, kind of pitches, venues etc. Indian fans in the comment section always used to fight with him because Sachin never used to top his lists. Lord and Vilander 2 Link to comment
Adamant Posted July 1, 2024 Share Posted July 1, 2024 Man of the match in the finals is all that matters. Kohli is already the greatest Indian t20 batsman of all times and has won MOTT twice, it’s okay to fail once, he won the POTM in the finals, thats what matters. If you have the aukaad than try to explain with stats who is a better all time Indiqn t20 batsman than Kohli otherwise it doesn’t matter. Its the result of Kohli carrying us in two world t20 that he gets to become a champion when he flopped the most. Karma as they say, he won bcoz he deserved it and look at Gods plan he also made sure that Kohli wins POTM. Hats off… Beta males will never change. Link to comment
Adamant Posted July 1, 2024 Share Posted July 1, 2024 @Nikhil_cric please stop justifying yourself man, accept that you were defeated by a bigger man and move on. Link to comment
Nikhil_cric Posted July 1, 2024 Author Share Posted July 1, 2024 1 minute ago, Adamant said: @Nikhil_cric please stop justifying yourself man, accept that you were defeated by a bigger man and move on. I didn't put that up. Cricinfo did. The fact that you feel the need to defend your hero at all costs says a lot. His record doesn't speak for itself. Link to comment
Adamant Posted July 1, 2024 Share Posted July 1, 2024 2 minutes ago, Nikhil_cric said: I didn't put that up. Cricinfo did. The fact that you feel the need to defend your hero at all costs says a lot. His record doesn't speak for itself. His record is incomparable and you know that. He had already done enough to be a T20 GOAT, just needed one cup and he gets it in style, that’s a fairytale ending. If someone is using stats to show how he didn’t deserve it then bring the stats from 2014, 2016 and 2022 too. Link to comment
Nikhil_cric Posted July 1, 2024 Author Share Posted July 1, 2024 1 minute ago, Adamant said: His record is incomparable and you know that. He had already done enough to be a T20 GOAT, just needed one cup and he gets it in style, that’s a fairytale ending. If someone is using stats to show how he didn’t deserve it then bring the stats from 2014, 2016 and 2022 too. No, nobody knows about his record being incomparable. Why should stats from 5 years ago be relevant to his selection now? Kuch bhi. He was a great player in the past but an absolute match loser for a few years now. Nothing wrong in pointing it out. Only the blindest of fans will defend his performances in this World T20. He was better than Dube and that's it. Link to comment
Suhaan Posted July 1, 2024 Share Posted July 1, 2024 Kohli fans be humble,you yourself know his innings brought India to the brink of defeat if not for the ever brilliant Bumrah and that paranormal catch by SKY Guy has retired ,well done already Nothing to say about him Had a great career,one of the Indian greats no doubt about it But was very ordinary since WC 2019,hurt his legacy it was piss poor batting on a reasonable surface by him,he should have helped India post 190+ Nikhil_cric 1 Link to comment
Praveen 06 Posted July 1, 2024 Share Posted July 1, 2024 2 minutes ago, Suhaan said: Kohli fans be humble,you yourself know his innings brought India to the brink of defeat if not for the ever brilliant Bumrah and that paranormal catch by SKY Guy has retired ,well done already Nothing to say about him Had a great career,one of the Indian greats no doubt about it But was very ordinary since WC 2019,hurt his legacy it was piss poor batting on a reasonable surface by him,he should have helped India post 190+ 34/3 to 177/7, very good recovery by kohli, axar n dube. Link to comment
Suhaan Posted July 1, 2024 Share Posted July 1, 2024 1 minute ago, Praveen 06 said: 34/3 to 177/7, very good recovery by kohli, axar n dube. Being the main batsman he should have accelerated bit more to push the score Same thing happened last year in India but today the difference was Axar in place of looser Kela If not for Axar,we could have been below 150 Link to comment
Laaloo Posted July 1, 2024 Share Posted July 1, 2024 3 minutes ago, Praveen 06 said: 34/3 to 177/7, very good recovery by kohli, axar n dube. Recovery was done by axar. Sorry when you don't hit a boundary for 12 overs in a T20 game, what the heck are you doing? Kohli didn't hit a boundary from 3.4 overs until 17.1. thankfully axar took risks every over and was able to execute. We would have struggled to reach 150 otherwise. Tillu, Nikhil_cric and express bowling 3 Link to comment
Praveen 06 Posted July 1, 2024 Share Posted July 1, 2024 Just now, Suhaan said: Being the main batsman he should have accelerated bit more to push the score Same thing happened last year in India but today the difference was Axar in place of looser Kela If not for Axar,we could have been below 150 Even if not kohli, 170+ not possible Link to comment
Praveen 06 Posted July 1, 2024 Share Posted July 1, 2024 4 minutes ago, Laaloo said: Recovery was done by axar. Sorry when you don't hit a boundary for 12 overs in a T20 game, what the heck are you doing? Kohli didn't hit a boundary from 3.4 overs until 17.1. thankfully axar took risks every over and was able to execute. We would have struggled to reach 150 otherwise. Recovery done by both.. kohli presence very imp in that situation Link to comment
Laaloo Posted July 1, 2024 Share Posted July 1, 2024 1 minute ago, Praveen 06 said: Recovery done by both.. kohli presence very imp in that situation Sure. I'll give Kohli 5% and axar 95% express bowling and Tillu 2 Link to comment
Praveen 06 Posted July 1, 2024 Share Posted July 1, 2024 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Laaloo said: Sure. I'll give Kohli 5% and axar 95% How much u give to Sachin 85(115) sf knock vs pak Edited July 1, 2024 by Praveen 06 Link to comment
Nikhil_cric Posted July 1, 2024 Author Share Posted July 1, 2024 Just now, Praveen 06 said: How much u give Sachin 85(115) sf knock vs pak A lot more. That was an extremely sluggish pitch with 2 proven chuckers bowling and Wahab getting massive reverse swing Link to comment
Suhaan Posted July 1, 2024 Share Posted July 1, 2024 11 minutes ago, Praveen 06 said: Even if not kohli, 170+ not possible Point is not about 'without 'kohli Kohli arrested a slide,well done But he should have accelerated a bit earlier,that was 180 par pitch We could have lost it Laaloo and Tillu 2 Link to comment
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