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Impossible to compare across eras.

 

But we can discuss their strengths.

 

Bumrah ....

 

1)   Consistent pace of 135 k to 145 k / 147 k in tests.  In his quickest years, 2018 and 2019, he crossed 150 k often enough. 

 

2)  Hits the bat high and hard from a high arm action. Gets good bounce for a medium height pacer.  Gets good zip off the deck. 

 

3)  Releases the ball 34 cm past the bowling crease as opposed to 5 cm to 15 cm for a normal pacer. This means he feels quicker than his release speeds suggest.

 

4)  He is very very accurate.

 

5)  He can vary lengths at will while keeping his lines same.

 

6)  He has a vicious, quick, accurate and indipping yorker which he can and does bowl at will. 

 

7) He has a nasty bumper. He uses it sparingly on slower surfaces and much more frequently on faster surfaces. But whenever he uses them, he makes them count.

 

8)  He can seam and swing the ball both ways nowadays  

 

9)  Most importantly, Bumrah has a thinking brain and can read match conditions and players very fast. He can plan dismissals regularly. 

 

10)   He uses his deceptive slower ball, bowled with a similar arm speed, even in tests. 

 

11)  Is one of the biggest reasons for our T20 WC 24 win, 2 test series wins IN Australia and 2 drawn test series IN England and SA. 

 

Bumrah is probably the most complete fast bowler in the history of the game, and can execute almost every kind of delivery in the book. 

 

His introduction to our test bowling lineup, in January 2018, completely transformed our pace attack. He was a wicket taker and enforcer pacer rolled into one.

 

 

 

 

 

McGrath ....

 

1)  He is 6"5" tall and his USP was steep bounce from a very high release point. He bounced the ball like a ping pong. 

 

2)  He was very very accurate. This, combined with steep bounce, was impossible to handle. 

 

3)  Very under-rated in terms of pace. He was definitely 135 k to 142 k in his quickest years. Even in 1999, saw him average 138 k in ODIs. 

 

4)  Extracted a lot of zip snd bounce off the deck. 

 

5)  Had a nasty bumper and intimidated batters regularly. 

 

6)  Could seam the ball both ways. Have seen him swing the ball too in helpful conditions. 

 

7)  He was a fierce competitor. Wanted to win at all costs. 

 

8)  He was a thinking bowler who could plan out dismissals. 

 

9)  Was one of the biggest reasons why Australia was almost unbeatable in the late 1990s snd early 2000s.

 

McGrath had an aura. Oppositions were psyched out even before he came to bowl.

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1 hour ago, express bowling said:

Impossible to compare across eras.

 

But we can discuss their strengths.

 

Bumrah ....

 

1)   Consistent pace of 135 k to 145 k / 147 k in tests.  In his quickest years, 2018 and 2019, he crossed 150 k often enough. 

 

2)  Hits the bat high and hard from a high arm action. Gets good bounce for a medium height pacer.  Gets good zip off the deck. 

 

3)  Releases the ball 34 cm past the bowling crease as opposed to 5 cm to 15 cm for a normal pacer. This means he feels quicker than his release speeds suggest.

 

4)  He is very very accurate.

 

5)  He can vary lengths at will while keeping his lines same.

 

6)  He has a vicious, quick, accurate and indipping yorker which he can and does bowl at will. 

 

7) He has a nasty bumper. He uses it sparingly on slower surfaces and much more frequently on faster surfaces. But whenever he uses them, he makes them count.

 

8)  He can seam and swing the ball both ways nowadays  

 

9)  Most importantly, Bumrah has a thinking brain and can read match conditions and players very fast. He can plan dismissals regularly. 

 

10)   He uses his deceptive slower ball, bowled with a similar arm speed, even in tests. 

 

11)  Is one of the biggest reasons for our T20 WC 24 win, 2 test series wins IN Australia and 2 drawn test series IN England and SA. 

 

Bumrah is probably the most complete fast bowler in the history of the game, and can execute almost every kind of delivery in the book. 

 

His introduction to our test bowling lineup, in January 2018, completely transformed our pace attack. He was a wicket taker and enforcer pacer rolled into one.

 

 

 

 

 

McGrath ....

 

1)  He is 6"5" tall and his USP was steep bounce from a very high release point. He bounced the ball like a ping pong. 

 

2)  He was very very accurate. This, combined with steep bounce, was impossible to handle. 

 

3)  Very under-rated in terms of pace. He was definitely 135 k to 142 k in his quickest years. Even in 1999, saw him average 138 k in ODIs. 

 

4)  Extracted a lot of zip snd bounce off the deck. 

 

5)  Had a nasty bumper and intimidated batters regularly. 

 

6)  Could seam the ball both ways. Have seen him swing the ball too in helpful conditions. 

 

7)  He was a fierce competitor. Wanted to win at all costs. 

 

8)  He was a thinking bowler who could plan out dismissals. 

 

9)  Was one of the biggest reasons why Australia was almost unbeatable in the late 1990s snd early 2000s.

 

McGrath had an aura. Oppositions were psyched out even before he came to bowl.

Put bumrah in that goat aussie side of naughties and they would win multiple titles as well. Won't be any difference. 

 

Put mcgrath in current India and yes he would be as good as bumrah too. 

 

Both are great. But for now I will say slight edge to mcgrath. Cause without mcgrath Aussies could never dominate in tests or odi. He makes them better. Remember India also draw test series in Australia in 2002 when mcgrath wasn't there. He played in 2004 and we did lose that series at home. 

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1 hour ago, rkt.india said:

Bumrah is certainly more skilful than McGrath. Even accuracy wise his ER in this economy era is phenomenal. McGrath played more, had a long career of 14 years. So let Bumrah play 5-6 more years for better comparison.

Boom has played 7 years of tests. 5 more years is perfectly fine. 

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2 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

One more thing, Bumrah is more exciting to watch then McGrath.


bumrah is my fav bowler. But to me mcgrath is the greatest bowler and will be on every single team. Lol he has every single cup in his pocket. Phew hardly anyone could gauge him. To me mcgrath > boomrah. But that dsnt mean he cant be second best!

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2 hours ago, Chaos said:


bumrah is my fav bowler. But to me mcgrath is the greatest bowler and will be on every single team. Lol he has every single cup in his pocket. Phew hardly anyone could gauge him. To me mcgrath > boomrah. But that dsnt mean he cant be second best!

Yea I agree. Without mcg that aussie team would never win 3 world cups nor dominate in tests. 100% will be an above average team. That's it. Not good enough to be top 2/3. 

 

If bumrah wins one or 2 wtc and helps india win a test series in England then yea we can put him right next to mcg. 

 

He also needs one more wc though 

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3 minutes ago, Kron said:

Yea I agree. Without mcg that aussie team would never win 3 world cups nor dominate in tests. 100% will be an above average team. That's it. Not good enough to be top 2/3. 

 

If bumrah wins one or 2 wtc and helps india win a test series in England then yea we can put him right next to mcg. 

 

He also needs one more wc though 


he needs min two 50over wcs then we might put him in same bracket as glenn mcgrath.

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McGrath is the best bowler I've seen. What makes him best is that he consistently showed up in big matches and performed against top batsmen. IMO he was the main player behind Aussies' success along with Gilchrist in mid 90s to mid 2000s. Steve Waugh and Warne may get a lot of plaudits but McGrath and Gilchrist were the two most important players in that team.

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27 minutes ago, Chaos said:


he needs min two 50over wcs then we might put him in same bracket as glenn mcgrath.

T20 these days is as good as odi bro. 2 t20 is ok too. 

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Just now, Ultimate_Game said:

McGrath is the best bowler I've seen. What makes him best is that he consistently showed up in big matches and performed against top batsmen. IMO he was the main player behind Aussies' success along with Gilchrist in mid 90s to mid 2000s. Steve Waugh and Warne may get a lot of plaudits but McGrath and Gilchrist were the two most important players in that team.


oh hiii re…how u doing? How mission karji?

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32 minutes ago, Ultimate_Game said:

McGrath is the best bowler I've seen. What makes him best is that he consistently showed up in big matches and performed against top batsmen. IMO he was the main player behind Aussies' success along with Gilchrist in mid 90s to mid 2000s. Steve Waugh and Warne may get a lot of plaudits but McGrath and Gilchrist were the two most important players in that team.

100% mcgrath. Take him out and they are finishing 4th tbh. 

 

Mcgrath never gets the credit he deserves tbh. People rave about many other players like Ambrose and wasim even

But it's mcgrath who imo is the best ever apart from Marshall. 

 

Wasim had lot of dropp3d catches so hard to say how much better he could have been with a functional side. 

 

Bumrah too gets many dropped catches go against him. 

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Just now, Kron said:

When will we complete operation sullah


in the works. The general dsnt enter the war like normal soldiers…he does it when he goes for the kill. Stage 1: instigation. Stage 2: throw lambs like @Laaloo as bait. Stage 3: annihilation. Thats when pook as country will be a rumble like george bush warned pooks. 

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Now this chewtiya mod is saying razzaq vs bumrah would be an even battle lmaoo

kuch bhi salah lowda

 

Batsmen declined that's why bumrah looks great

 

But sanga mahela would handle bumrah cause batsmen were better back then yet they struggled vs zak and sreesanth lol. 

 

However bumrah will have problems with those great players lol..

 

So what is it? Batting declined or bowling declined. Can't have it both ways.

 

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