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Posted
1 hour ago, MediumPacer said:

That ain't unique to us. And these days good athletes are all college educated.

There is a difference between being passionate about studies on your own vs being pushed by parents to put down that hockey stick and go back to books every day. 

Posted
2 hours ago, MediumPacer said:

That ain't unique to us. And these days good athletes are all college educated.

No not at all. Western parents encourage sports early. 

Not like Indian ones. 

 

Culturally just different. Parents always prioritise education. Indian parents. Sports is not seen as valuable. 

 

 

Posted
1 hour ago, New guy said:

There is a difference between being passionate about studies on your own vs being pushed by parents to put down that hockey stick and go back to books every day. 

Chinese are better too. Parents encourage sports early and music too.

Indian parents are by far the worst.

Posted
1 hour ago, LordPrabhzy said:

Australian hockey star amputates finger to play at Olympics

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckmg7ngkgjeo

 

Do any of our players have that much passion to represent the nation? They will run home at the first drop of the hat

The link says the finger was so badly damaged it might not have regained it's functionality even after surgery.In that case amputation was not as drastic as it appears

Posted
55 minutes ago, New guy said:

There is a difference between being passionate about studies on your own vs being pushed by parents to put down that hockey stick and go back to books every day. 

That could be for anyone.

 

As for hockey,I would say our players have it easier as they are employed by various psu or police. Whereas in Europe or aus they need a proper job,and then they play for their amateur or semi professional clubs which hardly pays and if they make it to their national team then they might get a contract from their federation,but even that doesn't always happen.

 

 

Posted
1 hour ago, Gollum said:

One of our hockey players, Sukhjeet Singh, overcame paralysis to make the squad. 

 

Few years earlier Sandeep Singh had a freak gunshot injury which left him on a wheelchair for over a year, came back.

 

Dilip Tirkey completed a match despite a hairline fracture to his face.

 

In Tokyo, Bajrang Punia won bronze with one knee, career ending injury.

 

I know it must be fun to talk smack about our athletes sitting in the comforts of your home, but reality is different. Even forgetting injuries, most of our athletes have conquered far greater odds than those from developed nations to make it here. Avinash Sable, son of brick kiln laborers used to run barefoot before being spotted by army, today he is top 10 in 3000 m steeplechase. Dattu Bhokanal is from drought prone Latur, Asian Games gold and made the rowing final in Rio. Goras wouldn't have the heart to pursue sports if given such meagre resources.

 

You have a right to be disappointed with our performances (again all the blame should go to govt, babus, administrators, society) but never accuse our sportspersons of cowardice. If you have any example of our athletes running away, do enlighten us. 

Sports is a luxury 

Indians don't have that in India.

Rich ones don't pursue it due to lack of work ethic

Posted
4 minutes ago, Kron said:

No not at all. Western parents encourage sports early. 

Not like Indian ones. 

 

Culturally just different. Parents always prioritise education. Indian parents. Sports is not seen as valuable. 

 

 

In that case there is no point improving infrastructure or sporting opportunities in India, because we will use such excuses here as well.

Posted
1 minute ago, MediumPacer said:

That could be for anyone.

 

As for hockey,I would say our players have it easier as they are employed by various psu or police. Whereas in Europe or aus they need a proper job,and then they play for their amateur or semi professional clubs which hardly pays and if they make it to their national team then they might get a contract from their federation,but even that doesn't always happen.

 

 

Not ar all. Netherlands and aus have scholarship programs. Everything is covered. 

 

 

Posted
1 minute ago, MediumPacer said:

In that case there is no point improving infrastructure or sporting opportunities in India, because we will use such excuses here as well.

Needs to start organically. Parents need to change their mindset. But I understand cause we are still a poor country. 

Posted (edited)
1 minute ago, Kron said:

Needs to start organically. Parents need to change their mindset. But I understand cause we are still a poor country. 

I am taking about Indians abroad ,they have enough opportunities but aren't good enough.

Edited by MediumPacer
Posted
4 minutes ago, MediumPacer said:

Not really ,they don't get govt backed jobs like us.

They do in aus man. I live here. But scholarships are all paid. They get financed. 

They work in the uni itself. They get first preference for everything. Accelerated program where they can skip many units. 

Posted
4 minutes ago, MediumPacer said:

I am taking about Indians abroad ,they have enough opportunities but aren't good enough.

Indians overseas? They still dint pursue sports full time. Parents won't allow them to prioritise it. 

 

White parents in aus encourage sports. From a very young age, they enrol them in sports. In clubs. Build experience. Join community clubs etc.

Posted
29 minutes ago, Kron said:

They do in aus man. I live here. But scholarships are all paid. They get financed. 

They work in the uni itself. They get first preference for everything. Accelerated program where they can skip many units. 

In India we also have sports quota, scholarship and also jobs.

Posted
29 minutes ago, Kron said:

Indians overseas? They still dint pursue sports full time. Parents won't allow them to prioritise it. 

 

White parents in aus encourage sports. From a very young age, they enrol them in sports. In clubs. Build experience. Join community clubs etc.

We always have excuses,in India no opportunities saaar, and abroad parents won't allow saaaar.

 

Posted
6 minutes ago, MediumPacer said:

In India we also have sports quota, scholarship and also jobs.

Not for all sports.

Posted
2 hours ago, Gollum said:

One of our hockey players, Sukhjeet Singh, overcame paralysis to make the squad. 

 

Few years earlier Sandeep Singh had a freak gunshot injury which left him on a wheelchair for over a year, came back.

 

Dilip Tirkey completed a match despite a hairline fracture to his face.

 

In Tokyo, Bajrang Punia won bronze with one knee, career ending injury.

 

I know it must be fun to talk smack about our athletes sitting in the comforts of your home, but reality is different. Even forgetting injuries, most of our athletes have conquered far greater odds than those from developed nations to make it here. Avinash Sable, son of brick kiln laborers used to run barefoot before being spotted by army, today he is top 10 in 3000 m steeplechase. Dattu Bhokanal is from drought prone Latur, Asian Games gold and made the rowing final in Rio. Goras wouldn't have the heart to pursue sports if given such meagre resources.

 

You have a right to be disappointed with our performances (again all the blame should go to govt, babus, administrators, society) but never accuse our sportspersons of cowardice. If you have any example of our athletes running away, do enlighten us. 

Top post bro

Posted
5 minutes ago, MediumPacer said:

We always have excuses,in India no opportunities saaar, and abroad parents won't allow saaaar.

 

Indian parents don't push their kids to play sports. That's the truth. It's not a viable option to survive. People barely have enough to survive in India. 

 

Yes outside India you could say there yes they could Improve but even there most parents don't push their kids to play sport. Mostly It's just to show off by claiming that their child is multi talented. Main focus is always to be an engineer doctor CPa or whatever. 

Until they change that mindelset there won't be any many that prioritise sports. 

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