Paris Olympics 2024 Discussion Thread

[Gollum]

5 minutes ago, New guy said:

Egg is one of the cheapest and best protein sources. Most children cannot digest cows milk very well and it doesn't give them optimum Nutrition. 

 

We always talk about the tyranny of minorities and minorities getting preferential treatment in India and sitting on our head.

 

This is the true tyranny of the minorities in india where 65 to 70% of the country is non vegetarian yet non veg food is banned in most places, we have more veg restaurants in places like Karnataka than non veg, nation wide chains like Reliance does not carry non veg items, people are allowed to discriminate non veg when giving house for rent, selling houses, hiring people etc, we have goverment days where selling of non veg items and meat is banned.

 

I am not even talking about beef, pork etc which has such religious hue and cry. But about simple eggs and chicken. 

 

This veg minority have been harming India for a very long time. 

Worst is trying to enforce veg lifestyle on tribals who have been non-veg for generations. 

[randomGuy]

1 minute ago, New guy said:

Egg is one of the cheapest and best protein sources. Most children cannot digest cows milk very well and it doesn't give them optimum Nutrition. 

 

We always talk about the tyranny of minorities and minorities getting preferential treatment in India and sitting on our head.

 

This is the true tyranny of the minorities in india where 65 to 70% of the country is non vegetarian yet non veg food is banned in most places, we have more beg restaurants in places like Karnataka, nation wide chains like reliance does not carry non veg items, people are allowed to discriminate non veg when giving house for rent, selling houses, hiring people etc.

 

This veg minority have been harming India for a very long time. 

In the north and the west, veg is a big majority...Sikhs for ex. contrary to some people's beliefs have one of the largest percentage of vegetarians.. 65-70% veg. Only behind jains.... haryanvis are mostly veg. Your wrestlers are veg. Your neeraj Chopra's are veg. (Eat non veg abroad due to non availability of veg food)... would beat the crap out of non veg. Non-northies/westies....

[Gollum]

Desis don't cook meat right, nor veggies. Too much masala, wasting away broth, use of seed oil (bigger poison than sugar), poor quality of food (recently almost all Indian spices like Everest, MDH were banned in developed countries for failing standards), unregulated use of pesticides and fertilizers, grain fed animals etc. 

[deathmonger]

4 minutes ago, randomGuy said:

In the north and the west, veg is a big majority...Sikhs for ex. contrary to some people's beliefs have one of the largest percentage of vegetarians.. 65-70% veg. Only behind jains.... haryanvis are mostly veg. Your wrestlers are veg. Your neeraj Chopra's are veg. (Eat non veg abroad due to non availability of veg food)... would beat the crap out of non veg. Non-northies/westies....

yes but the best wrestlers in the world are all non veg.

 

so indias veg athletes are decent in spite of vegetarianism. if they incorporated non veg would even be better.

[New guy]

7 minutes ago, randomGuy said:

In the north and the west, veg is a big majority...Sikhs for ex. contrary to some people's beliefs have one of the largest percentage of vegetarians.. 65-70% veg. Only behind jains.... haryanvis are mostly veg. Your wrestlers are veg. Your neeraj Chopra's are veg. (Eat non veg abroad due to non availability of veg food)... would beat the crap out of non veg. Non-northies/westies....

Not the point. The discrimination I am talking about happens throughout India. You are free to eat what you want but don't force it on others. It's not about which diet is better but you guys forcing the majority to stop eating what they want. 

Edited July 28, 2024 by New guy

[Serpico]

6 minutes ago, randomGuy said:

In the north and the west, veg is a big majority...Sikhs for ex. contrary to some people's beliefs have one of the largest percentage of vegetarians.. 65-70% veg. Only behind jains.... haryanvis are mostly veg. Your wrestlers are veg. Your neeraj Chopra's are veg. (Eat non veg abroad due to non availability of veg food)... would beat the crap out of non veg. Non-northies/westies....

Gujarat, Rajasthan, Haryana and Punjab are the only states where vegetarians outnumber meat eaters

[deathmonger]

30 minutes ago, Gollum said:

We have a big enough upper middle class and rich population. Mentality is missing, have to fix that first. Encourage kids to take up sporting activities. 

 

Even in developed countries, you see so many East Asians participating in Olympics, no brown folks. 

issue is one of caste.

 

india's middle class and rich population as well as vast majority of indian diaspora are from brahmin/bania castes whose traditional occupations were education, trade etc. so this class does well in that regard.

 

true change will only come when more people from the agrarian/artisanal castes, dalits, tribals become richer.

[Gollum]

12 minutes ago, randomGuy said:

In the north and the west, veg is a big majority...Sikhs for ex. contrary to some people's beliefs have one of the largest percentage of vegetarians.. 65-70% veg. Only behind jains.... haryanvis are mostly veg. Your wrestlers are veg. Your neeraj Chopra's are veg. (Eat non veg abroad due to non availability of veg food)... would beat the crap out of non veg. Non-northies/westies....

Neeraj Chopra has been non veg since 2016, consumes chicken, salmon daily even when in India. Anyway top athletes will be having dozens of supplements under supervision of nutritionists and doctors. Kids won't have that luxury.

 

Djokovic became a shadow of himself when he switched to veg diet, his coach Vajda refused to train him till he went back to eating meat and fish. 

 

Punjab, Haryana have much better sports culture than ROI, better coaches. That's why better. With better protein sources maybe they can compete with Americans, Japanese, Russians. 

Edited July 28, 2024 by Gollum

[Serpico]

3 minutes ago, New guy said:

Not the point. The discrimination I am talking about happens throughout India. You are free to eat what you want but don't force it on others. It's not about which diet is better but you guys forcing the majority to stop eating what they want. 

But neeraj chopra is vegetarian so we should ban eggs from all govt schools. Lets ignore the fact that Neetaj/Virat would be taking lots of protein supplements from veg alternatives which are unaffordable to normal kids 

[Kron]

34 minutes ago, Gollum said:

We have a big enough upper middle class and rich population. Mentality is missing, have to fix that first. Encourage kids to take up sporting activities. 

 

Even in developed countries, you see so many East Asians participating in Olympics, no brown folks. 

Cause of parents. They only focus on portraying kids as multi talented. They don't allow them to pursue sports as a main job

[Gollum]

Just now, Serpico said:

But neeraj chopra is vegetarian so we should ban eggs from all govt schools. Lets ignore the fact that Neetaj/Virat would be taking lots of protein supplements from veg alternatives which are unaffordable to normal kids 

Bro, Neeraj has been non veg for most of his professional career (even before he got his breakthrough). Check his interviews. 

[New guy]

6 minutes ago, Serpico said:

Gujarat, Rajasthan, Haryana and Punjab are the only states where vegetarians outnumber meat eaters

Also, does it give the right for them to force their diet on others? What if non veg people started forcing people in their majority states to eat non veg? Imagine if they stopped giving houses to Veg people, stopped keeping beg items in stores.  Veg guys will burn the country down. 

Edited July 28, 2024 by New guy

[Gollum]

1 minute ago, Kron said:

Cause of parents. They only focus on portraying kids as multi talented. They don't allow them to pursue sports as a main job

Yes, problem at societal level. How many promising sporting careers are cut off to prepare for some competitive exam. 

[MediumPacer]

Diet won't change genetics,looks at Afghanistan ,they don't look malnourished despite decades of wars.

 

Also India has hundreds of millions of meat eaters,more meat eaters than most countries in the world. 

[randomGuy]

15 minutes ago, deathmonger said:

yes but the best wrestlers in the world are all non veg.

 

so indias veg athletes are decent in spite of vegetarianism. if they incorporated non veg would even be better.

It doesn't matter...as human consciousness rises, they become more veg.Kohli became vegan. There are longevity arguments in favour of vegan/vegetarianism. Gen Z is exponentially more veg than say 55+ age group in USA. The trend will continue further in younger generations. And then the copycat non vegetarians of India will wake up.

 

Vegetarian diets of Indians is the thing to be proud of imho.

Edited July 28, 2024 by randomGuy

[Gollum]

1 minute ago, randomGuy said:

It doesn't matter...as human consciousness rises, they become more veg.Kohli became vegan. There are longevity arguments in favour of vegan/vegetarianism. Gen Z is exponentially more veg than say 55+ age group in USA. The trend will continue further in younger generations. And then the copycat non vegetarians of Indians will wake up.

 

Vegetarian diets of Indians is the thing to be proud of imho.

What is your stance on egg? 

[New guy]

4 minutes ago, randomGuy said:

It doesn't matter...as human consciousness rises, they become more veg.Kohli became vegan. There are longevity arguments in favour of vegan/vegetarianism. Gen Z is exponentially more veg than say 55+ age group in USA. The trend will continue further in younger generations. And then the copycat non vegetarians of Indians will wake up.

 

Vegetarian diets of Indians is the thing to be proud of imho.

Eggs are just chicken periods so shouldn't even come under non veg. Unless an egg is fertilized(when chicken have sex)  it will never have life. 

 

Americans etc are vegans not vegetarians. So they don't consume milk, curd, paneer, ghee like you hypocrite. 

 

You are giving big lectures to others here on what to eat, have you stopped eating ghee, paneer, milk, curd to be with this aroused consciousness? 

 

This post is hilarious in its hypocriteness, big lectures about human consciousness, go and see what condition cattle who give milk are on most of India and how they are forced to keep giving milk till old age. 

Edited July 28, 2024 by New guy

[New guy]

6 minutes ago, Gollum said:

What is your stance on egg? 

Also ask the hypocrite if he has given up milk, ghee, paneeer, curd because he is giving lectures about veganism and rise in consciousness. 

 

Eating egg causes chickens way less discomfort than milking cows. Eggs are just natural chicken periods, forcing a cow to give milk most of its life is brutal. 

Edited July 28, 2024 by New guy

[rkt.india]

3 hours ago, deathmonger said:

In a way this is true and also shows the nature of conversion.

 

People who were higher up the caste system almost never converted as they didn't have any issues with Hinduism. People lower down the caste system did.

 

That's why Kashmir had Pandits but everyone else had converted. and even in Indian Punjab the cities have Hindu majorities (Amritsar, Ludhiana etc) while the agrarian rural areas are Sikh.

 

Most Pakistanis are converts of agrarian castes which are classified as OBC in india - jutt, gujjar etc. They have a lot of Rajputs too but in current day India Rajputs are on the same level socio-economically as a lot of the more dominant OBC castes. India's education/business sector is almost all Brahmin-Baniya.

 

Even in Pakistan, their entrepreneurial class in the early days of independence were Parsis and the mercantile Khojas/Bohras from Gujarat.

 

 

 

Most of the converts in kashmir were pandits too. It was a pandit land mostly along with dogras. Converted Surnames like Dar, Bhatt were all pandits.

[MediumPacer]

Many people of Indian background in South Africa , carribean .They look the same as your typical desi. Their diet and lifestyle hasn't been able to change their genetics.