Paris Olympics 2024 Discussion Thread

[bharathh]

Another person I really appreciate is Mirabai Chanu. She tried to go for Silver instead of just going for bronze. She couldn't make her final lift and so ended up 4th - but she is another with a winner's mentatily. Just didn't have the physicality to win this time. We need more weightlifters like her. 

[Gollum]

Indians whining over javelin silver and hockey bronze is both pathetic and pleasing at the same time.

 

This is what Americans, Aussies do when their swimming  favorites don't win gold. You must see their meltdown on SM. 

 

Pathetic because all athletes are humans, and winning an Olympic gold is not a birthright, other beasts as well. Luck too plays a role. Everyone gives their best. 

 

Pleasing because at least in a couple of events we have set the bar so high that not winning gold is seen as a failure. 

[Number]

Unreal choke by Japanese in TT.

Leading 9-5 in gold medal match first match. Gave it away 5-11.

[bharathh]

The new batch of women wrestlers look exciting for the future. I hope the men catch up as well. Really hoping they don't fade away. They have overperformed in this event even though we only have 1 medal so far. Stlil expecting one from Reetika tomorrow. Still - these girls look good for success if they continue. I really hope that the govt *s off from the WFI and it is run professionally. Unfortunately with the Haryana govt - either Cong or BJP - both will not leave the federation alone. 

[Gollum]

3 minutes ago, bharathh said:

Another person I really appreciate is Mirabai Chanu. She tried to go for Silver instead of just going for bronze. She couldn't make her final lift and so ended up 4th - but she is another with a winner's mentatily. Just didn't have the physicality to win this time. We need more weightlifters like her. 

Mirabai Chanu's season best was 184 kg. 

 

When it mattered she did 199 kg (just 2 kg shy of her Tokyo silver winning efforts). That too when wasn't at 100% due to periods. 

 

Amazing champion. 

 

Anybody who performed above season best or made new national record, must be appreciated, even if medal eluded them. 

[randomGuy]

 

 

[bharathh]

1 minute ago, Gollum said:

Indians whining over javelin silver and hockey bronze is both pathetic and pleasing at the same time.

 

This is what Americans, Aussies do when their swimming  favorites don't win gold. You must see their meltdown on SM. 

 

Pathetic because all athletes are humans, and winning an Olympic gold is not a birthright, other beasts as well. Luck too plays a role. Everyone gives their best. 

 

Pleasing because at least in a couple of events we have set the bar so high that not winning gold is seen as a failure. 

 

True. However, I think that sets the standard for success high as well. IMO, hockey team beyond my wildest expectations. I doubted they would make it out of the group at the beginning. 

 

I really hope we identify ppl for weightlifting and other field events. I really think we should have ppl for discus throw, hammer and shot put. Field - we are slowly improving.. but in these events I think we can really get better quick. Need the right talents (not just one) and keep improving them at all costs.

[Gollum]

I seriously believe we can become the best freestyle wrestling nation in a couple of decades time. 

[bharathh]

2 minutes ago, Gollum said:

Mirabai Chanu's season best was 184 kg. 

 

When it mattered she did 199 kg (just 2 kg shy of her Tokyo silver winning efforts). That too when wasn't at 100% due to periods. 

 

Amazing champion. 

 

Anybody who performed above season best or made new national record, must be appreciated, even if medal eluded them. 

Not just that. Like I said she could have just added 1kg on her last attempt to go for Bronze. But she added 3 kg to try for Silver. She went for a better medal instead of settling.

[Number]

4 minutes ago, bharathh said:

The new batch of women wrestlers look exciting for the future. I hope the men catch up as well. Really hoping they don't fade away. They have overperformed in this event even though we only have 1 medal so far. Stlil expecting one from Reetika tomorrow. Still - these girls look good for success if they continue. I really hope that the govt *s off from the WFI and it is run professionally. Unfortunately with the Haryana govt - either Cong or BJP - both will not leave the federation alone. 

Do you think the that no. 1 seed girl can beat the US girl ?

I think it is an even contest.

[randomGuy]

 

 

Aman n Ravi both are incredibly sweet n humble champions.

[bharathh]

1 minute ago, Number said:

Do you think the that no. 1 seed girl can beat the US girl ?

I think it is an even contest.

Reetika beat that US girl in the jr world championships for gold last year (9-2)

Edited August 10, 2024 by bharathh

[bharathh]

Just now, bharathh said:

Reetika beat that US girl in the jr world championships for gold last year (9-2)

Kyrgyz lady's defence was top notch - just like Reetikas. Got lucky that she won the last pt. She didn't win because she was better than Reetika

[deathmonger]

1 minute ago, Gollum said:

I seriously believe we can become the best freestyle wrestling nation in a couple of decades time. 

women are already beating japanese in junior level

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_World_Junior_Wrestling_Championships

 

in 20 years time I think shooting and wrestling we can become world class. Cricket also 20 years ago were in same place where we are now in wrestling and shooting now - not top drawer but not far off.

 

[Gollum]

1 minute ago, randomGuy said:

 

 

Aman n Ravi both are incredibly sweet n humble champions.

Aman's life is so inspiring, born fighter. He deserves the very best. 

[deathmonger]

2 minutes ago, bharathh said:

Kyrgyz lady's defence was top notch - just like Reetikas. Got lucky that she won the last pt. She didn't win because she was better than Reetika

Good to see 21 year old give good fight to world champion silver medalist 1st seed

[bharathh]

5 minutes ago, Gollum said:

I seriously believe we can become the best freestyle wrestling nation in a couple of decades time. 

That was the hope after London when we won those 2 medals and then in Tokyo as well. We need ppl like Sushil Kumar though. Get the thugs in and give them a productive outlet for their aggression. I think in terms if strength or talent we are not behind. Just consistency and mental fortitude. Tbh, Bajrang was also awesome. Too bad he threw away his sporting career for politics.

[Kron]

4 minutes ago, bharathh said:

Kyrgyz lady's defence was top notch - just like Reetikas. Got lucky that she won the last pt. She didn't win because she was better than Reetika

Yea reetika almost had her at the end. I want to see a rematch. Don't forget reetika is only 21

[bharathh]

4 minutes ago, deathmonger said:

women are already beating japanese in junior level

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_World_Junior_Wrestling_Championships

 

in 20 years time I think shooting and wrestling we can become world class. Cricket also 20 years ago were in same place where we are now in wrestling and shooting now - not top drawer but not far off.

 

Next Olympics - why 20 years? However, the politician asshats will ruin everything.

[deathmonger]

In 20 years time

 

Hockey, Cricket, Shooting, Wrestling - Top class, gold medal contenders

Badminton, Archery - Decent, can win a gold

 

If TT, Boxing, Athletics keep pace plus we open up some new stuff (Judo, Taekwondo, Gymnastics, Rock climbing etc. Swimming etc look tough for now but even there maybe a few) can be a solid 30-40 medals, 10-12 golds team in the 2040s