India will not travel to Pakistan for ICC Champions Trophy 2025

[jigjig]

58 minutes ago, First class said:

Fake news, for the heck of it, and I'm deadly against Pakistan army. 

Lol. This is absolutely true . number may not be 100. Some say 40..some dozens , but ther have been deaths 

Edited November 27, 2024 by jigjig

[R!TTER]

54 minutes ago, New guy said:

Aur banao religion ke liye country 

This could've been avoided if Nehru would've accepeted not being the PM.

[jigjig]

39 minutes ago, diga said:

Question is will the ICC chief Jay Shah travel to P.ork.istan for award ceremony?

Yes in Pushpak Biman spraying his sweat all around and producing more Jesa's

[jigjig]

3 minutes ago, R!TTER said:

This could've been avoided if Nehru would've accepeted not being the PM.

Or Muslims could stay with Hindus 

[New guy]

13 minutes ago, R!TTER said:

This could've been avoided if Nehru would've accepeted not being the PM.

The hatred which had been created, nothing could have been avoided. And we are kinda better off that happened

[R!TTER]

30 minutes ago, jigjig said:

Or Muslims could stay with Hindus 

They are, it's called India - the political class let both the groups down!

 

21 minutes ago, New guy said:

nothing could have been avoided

That's an easy escape route; if the "leaders" from both sides had the will, it could've been avoided, but yes, both sides needed to work together and compromise!

[jigjig]

14 minutes ago, R!TTER said:

They are, it's called India - the political class let both the groups down!

 

That's an easy escape route; if the "leaders" from both sides had the will, it could've been avoided, but yes, both sides needed to work together and compromise!

Bangladesh also. Right. See what's happening today.

 

Pata nahi kaunse nashe karte hai hum.

[jigjig]

4 hours ago, Ultimate_Game said:

 

Better not to risk it. I wouldn't want any cricket team and cricketers to be targeted the way SL cricket team was.

Some question Indias stance. Let them also feel the Pakistani "hospitality" directly.

[AuxiliA]

9 hours ago, New guy said:

Yep, proof what religious extremism does to a country. Aur banao religion ke liye country 

 

*Islamic Extremism. 

 

Please don't blame all religions for this. All religions are not the same. 

 

Other religions might have their own problems but no other religion comes close to the fanaticism and supermacism of the Islamists. Not even the Christian Missionaries. 

 

[New guy]

25 minutes ago, AuxiliA said:

 

*Islamic Extremism. 

 

Please don't blame all religions for this. All religions are not the same. 

 

Other religions might have their own problems but no other religion comes close to the fanaticism and supermacism of the Islamists. Not even the Christian Missionaries. 

 

Christianity was at one point of time, they literally killed scientists and burned women but over time,  became more tolerant 

 

Some Hindus want india to be the same and go towards dominating other religions which is the path towwrds extremism.

 

We have to be ever vigilant. 

[AuxiliA]

5 minutes ago, New guy said:

Christianity was at one point of time, they literally killed scientists and burned women but over time,  became more tolerant 

 

Some Hindus want india to be the same and go towards dominating other religions which is the path towwrds extremism.

 

We have to be ever vigilant. 

 

 

Man quit this false equivalency. The Indian left has lost a lot of it's credibility (& support) trying to equate Hindutva with Islamic terrorism. 

 

Hindus Right wingers are conservative even stupid but never supermacist or Imperialistic like the Islamists or the Christian missionaries. They just want to conserve their land and culture and they don't believe in conversions. 

 

A Hindu boy is far more likely to pick up weapons inspired by far Left ideologies(Naxals, Maoists,etc) or hell even a gangster like Lawrence Bishnoi than he is to do because of Hindu religion or political Hindutva. 

 

 

 

[Ultimate_Game]

6 hours ago, jigjig said:

Some question Indias stance. Let them also feel the Pakistani "hospitality" directly.

 

Others haven't lived with the constant threat the way we have. Aussies, Eng, NZ and others can fly away and their problems are over. For us, we have to live with the threat constantly. It's easier to pontificate when you don't have skin in the game and won't be impacted directly.

[New guy]

2 hours ago, AuxiliA said:

 

 

Man quit this false equivalency. The Indian left has lost a lot of it's credibility (& support) trying to equate Hindutva with Islamic terrorism. 

 

Hindus Right wingers are conservative even stupid but never supermacist or Imperialistic like the Islamists or the Christian missionaries. They just want to conserve their land and culture and they don't believe in conversions. 

 

A Hindu boy is far more likely to pick up weapons inspired by far Left ideologies(Naxals, Maoists,etc) or hell even a gangster like Lawrence Bishnoi than he is to do because of Hindu religion or political Hindutva. 

 

 

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.indiatoday.in/amp/india/karnataka/story/karnataka-vishwa-vokkaliga-mutt-seer-seeks-abolition-of-waqf-board-muslim-voting-rights-2640506-2024-11-26

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.thewire.in/article/communalism/bjp-leaders-fringe-anti-muslim-remarks-gulf-countries/amp

 

 

 

Apni ankhein band karne se duniya soordas nahi ho jati mere bhai

 

Also remember, it's never the common people who drive extremist ideology in any country. It's always populist politicians and army leaders and rich businessmen in power who do. And they are trying to shape our country now.

 

Some rando picking up arms or bomb can do no harm to such a vast country, but populists in power and their businessmen backers can. 

 

I am never worried about the common sensible indians, it's always populist leaders and their cult brainwashed followers who are a danger to any country

 

Edited November 27, 2024 by New guy

[jigjig]

3 hours ago, New guy said:

Christianity was at one point of time, they literally killed scientists and burned women but over time,  became more tolerant 

 

Some Hindus want india to be the same and go towards dominating other religions which is the path towwrds extremism.

 

We have to be ever vigilant. 

We, the state , will never go the same way like dominating other religions. Some people might do , they will be brought in line. 

[AuxiliA]

54 minutes ago, New guy said:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.indiatoday.in/amp/india/karnataka/story/karnataka-vishwa-vokkaliga-mutt-seer-seeks-abolition-of-waqf-board-muslim-voting-rights-2640506-2024-11-26

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.thewire.in/article/communalism/bjp-leaders-fringe-anti-muslim-remarks-gulf-countries/amp

 

 

 

Apni ankhein band karne se duniya soordas nahi ho jati mere bhai

 

Also remember, it's never the common people who drive extremist ideology in any country. It's always populist politicians and army leaders and rich businessmen in power who do. And they are trying to shape our country now.

 

Some rando picking up arms or bomb can do no harm to such a vast country, but populists in power and their businessmen backers can. 

 

I am never worried about the common sensible indians, it's always populist leaders and their cult brainwashed followers who are a danger to any country

 

 

 

You are equating random 'Hindu leaders' blabbering against Muslims (most of which is taken out of context & shown in isolation and something that all right wing politicians in the world do to the 'outsiders') to the actual organized violence orchestrated by the Islamists. This proves the point I was talking about lol. 

 

Forget Islamic extremists, the radical 'Hindu' Leftists have caused more violence and disturbance in India than what the radical Hindu rightwingers did after independence. 

 

Far more Indians have picked up arms in the name of a foreigner like Mao than they will ever do in the name of Modi or Yogi. Just like religion, not all populist leaders are the same. 

 

 

 

[jigjig]

Pakistan should take a raincheck and walk out of hosting CT this time.

 

Karz rahega ICC pe. 

[tapandrun]

scenarios laid out by cricbuzz:

Scenario 1: ICC decides on the hybrid model and Pakistan reluctantly accepts it.

Scenario 2: Pakistan rejects and boycotts it and the competition is relocated to another country, UAE or South Africa.

Scenario 3: The tournament is cancelled or indefinitely postponed (least likely, as it is not in any party's interest).

[Ultimate_Game]

1 hour ago, tapandrun said:

scenarios laid out by cricbuzz:

Scenario 1: ICC decides on the hybrid model and Pakistan reluctantly accepts it.

Scenario 2: Pakistan rejects and boycotts it and the competition is relocated to another country, UAE or South Africa.

Scenario 3: The tournament is cancelled or indefinitely postponed (least likely, as it is not in any party's interest).

 

Scenario 4: The tournament is relocated to another country citing deteriorating security and law & order situation in Pakistan. Pakistan threatens to boycott and then plays the CT with tail between its legs.

[tapandrun]

On 11/22/2024 at 7:17 PM, vvvslaxman said:

what is going on here. Is Idnia playing or not?

There is no champions trophy if Ind. is not participating.

Most likely hybrid event as it always was ,also the best bet for pcb right now. seems like they pushed it too far.

 

Per news icc may go for voting where 15 members vote in favour or against of hybrid event. All knows where those votes are going in that case.

what icc would like to have is all Ind matched in hybrid model +1 SF and Final in neutral venue in case Ind team makes it to those stage.

PCB has most likely agreed to it but they might not want Ind vs Pak match in that case. 

 

This could have been discussed and sorted out a long back not sure why pcb and icc held it back. There have been so many meetings and this was not already discussed....??

 

Also per news pcb is advised by gop to not to go for hybrid then in that case pcb would have to withdraw from ct and it gets hosted by some other board.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited November 27, 2024 by tapandrun

[tapandrun]

13 minutes ago, Ultimate_Game said:

 

Scenario 4: The tournament is relocated to another country citing deteriorating security and law & order situation in Pakistan. Pakistan threatens to boycott and then plays the CT with tail between its legs.

v.likely deals has already been made for hybrid rest is all facade for general public and media. icc has allotted 65 M for this CT with 15 matches and 85 M were spent for t20i wc -2022 Aus --48 matches

Edited November 27, 2024 by tapandrun