Pujara as an analyst

[straighttalk]

I am really enjoying the technical analysis of the game from Pujara..even though he is bit biased on defense and test match batting as expected. Not sure if he would be good as a commentator as he might not be that articulate but his analysis is very informative...

[Jattputt]

His analysis of Shubman gill “ be smart, hard hands, improve footwork” is spot on.

[Vk1]

if he is telling the obvious things its good but we would expect analysis that an average commentator won't find to rate him higher

[pramodk]

How does Harsha Bhogle who got his MBA from IIM, qualify for commentry and analysis? Apart from the fact that he talks extremely well...i am sure Pujara knows what he is talking not like a manager

[Strangering]

20 hours ago, Jattputt said:

His analysis of Shubman gill “ be smart, hard hands, improve footwork” is spot on.

That's basically a long way of saying "learn to bat"

[NameGoesHere]

6 hours ago, pramodk said:

How does Harsha Bhogle who got his MBA from IIM, qualify for commentry and analysis? Apart from the fact that he talks extremely well...i am sure Pujara knows what he is talking not like a manager

Bhogle started his commentary at a time when command over the English language was as prized as it was not that common, our cricketers were mostly inarticulate, TV commentary was stil in its early days so it was more of a free for all.  I remember ML Jaisimha tuning up for commenting one day clearly five or six beers down .  He, by the way, was very suave and spoke well. 
 

Plus Bhogle had an IIM degree which, believe him or not, made him even more highly regarded as a high class, intellectual guy. People were like “Ooooh an IIM guy is commenting” like it was a big deal.  Back in the day it was.

 

The quality of the analysis was very average, so you did not have to be this cricket guru to stand out.  There was no internet, cricket knowledge was what you learned on the field, so any guy with a book knew more than you. 

 

So a guy with average cricket nous would do well if he could speak English well.

 

He got lucky but he worked hard and he obviously was passionate about the game.

 

Today, when a Ranji player also wants to get into commentary, a guy like him wouldn’t have much of a chance against actual retired Test players who want to take it up as a gig.  
 

And on top of that fans have become much more  knowledgeable, so a guy starting fb out like Bhogle would not last too long.

Edited December 22, 2024 by NameGoesHere

[R!TTER]

13 hours ago, Strangering said:

That's basically a long way of saying "learn to bat"

Ok uncle - Gilly Danda 

[Lord]

12 hours ago, NameGoesHere said:

Bhogle started his commentary at a time when command over the English language was as prized as it was not that common, our cricketers were mostly inarticulate, TV commentary was stil in its early days so it was more of a free for all.  I remember ML Jaisimha tuning up for commenting one day clearly five or six beers down .  He, by the way, was very suave and spoke well. 
 

Plus Bhogle had an IIM degree which, believe him or not, made him even more highly regarded as a high class, intellectual guy. People were like “Ooooh an IIM guy is commenting” like it was a big deal.  Back in the day it was.

 

The quality of the analysis was very average, so you did not have to be this cricket guru to stand out.  There was no internet, cricket knowledge was what you learned on the field, so any guy with a book knew more than you. 

 

So a guy with average cricket nous would do well if he could speak English well.

 

He got lucky but he worked hard and he obviously was passionate about the game.

 

Today, when a Ranji player also wants to get into commentary, a guy like him wouldn’t have much of a chance against actual retired Test players who want to take it up as a gig.  
 

And on top of that fans have become much more  knowledgeable, so a guy starting fb out like Bhogle would not last too long.

 

Fans being knowledgable works in favour of guys like Bhogle. They don't need experts like Bakwaskar to tell them stuff. Just someone who can make the experience fulfilling. Not saying Bhogle is that, but still better than experts

[straighttalk]

I really liked how Pujara explained how the bounce in Australia is causing batsmen to misjudge the driving length...and that is causing all the edges for Indian batsman

[sensible-indian]

Fans are becoming more knowledgeable but we still have a long long way to go.

 

Forget the cricketing world, I consider posters in this forum far ahead of the general fans.

 

But to be honest...

 

A lot of posters in this forum barely understand what chucking is and their knowledge on Indian spin pitches is shockingly bad.

 

Personally, I am pretty bad at the technical aspects of the game, so I would love to hear someone explain it to me.

 

As long as they aren't boring like Arun Lal, I would love an honest commentator who does technical analysis.

 

Like how express bowling breaks down pace bowling and educates the entire forum. There is not a single commie in the world who breaks things down like he does.

 

If Pujara can do it for batting, that's a great great thing.

 

Ideally in he commie box, you need to have a variety of commies.

 

Technical guy.

 

Hype man (Shastri, Ian Smith types).

 

Conversationalist.

 

Stats guy.

 

Heard that back in the day, Narottam Puri used to prepare a lot before commentating.

 

Nowadays, we have experts waking up, brushing their teeth, taking a bath and then coming onto the commentary box to vomit whatever they feel like.

[Vijy]

On 12/22/2024 at 12:41 PM, NameGoesHere said:

Bhogle started his commentary at a time when command over the English language was as prized as it was not that common, our cricketers were mostly inarticulate, TV commentary was stil in its early days so it was more of a free for all.  I remember ML Jaisimha tuning up for commenting one day clearly five or six beers down .  He, by the way, was very suave and spoke well. 
 

Plus Bhogle had an IIM degree which, believe him or not, made him even more highly regarded as a high class, intellectual guy. People were like “Ooooh an IIM guy is commenting” like it was a big deal.  Back in the day it was.

 

The quality of the analysis was very average, so you did not have to be this cricket guru to stand out.  There was no internet, cricket knowledge was what you learned on the field, so any guy with a book knew more than you. 

 

So a guy with average cricket nous would do well if he could speak English well.

 

He got lucky but he worked hard and he obviously was passionate about the game.

 

Today, when a Ranji player also wants to get into commentary, a guy like him wouldn’t have much of a chance against actual retired Test players who want to take it up as a gig.  
 

And on top of that fans have become much more  knowledgeable, so a guy starting fb out like Bhogle would not last too long.

this has always been an issue. Having studied at India and US elite institutions, I believe that one needs to look at folks on a case-by-case basis. Plenty of idiots in the places I studied despite their fame.