kepler37b Posted March 4 Posted March 4 (edited) Here he says that islamic texts are not absolute and interpretation can change with time. https://x.com/shambhav15/status/1896949008083685549 Edited March 4 by kepler37b Muloghonto 1
coffee_rules Posted March 4 Posted March 4 We need this in other parts of the world . The left has brainwashed people about Islamophobia and sheet like that.
Muloghonto Posted March 4 Posted March 4 46 minutes ago, kepler37b said: Here he says that islamic texts are not absolute and interpretation can change with time. https://x.com/shambhav15/status/1896949008083685549 OH NO !!! Crown Prince of Saudi is a RSS andhbhakth. Only RSS andhbhakt can say Koran flawed and needs to move on and change Modi must have done jadu-tona on MBS last time he met him- thats why he hugs people so tightly - to put jadu tona jari-buti on their skin to work kaalaa jaadu on them Therefore, Mudi must rejine.
kepler37b Posted March 6 Author Posted March 6 On 3/5/2025 at 12:55 AM, coffee_rules said: We need this in other parts of the world . The left has brainwashed people about Islamophobia and sheet like that. On 3/5/2025 at 1:33 AM, Muloghonto said: OH NO !!! Crown Prince of Saudi is a RSS andhbhakth. Only RSS andhbhakt can say Koran flawed and needs to move on and change Modi must have done jadu-tona on MBS last time he met him- thats why he hugs people so tightly - to put jadu tona jari-buti on their skin to work kaalaa jaadu on them Therefore, Mudi must rejine. Any person with a reasonably good IQ will start getting repulsed by core principles of monotheisms. coffee_rules and diga 2
Muloghonto Posted March 6 Posted March 6 2 hours ago, kepler37b said: Any person with a reasonably good IQ will start getting repulsed by core principles of monotheisms. True for those who are not monotheists but not true for those who are monotheists. I once, as a math guy, gave a math proof of how koran is not perfect to a fellow math dude bestie muslim friend of mine. He just blinked twice and glitched out and stopped talking to me for six months, then pretended that convo never happened and carries on and now if i hint for that convo, he just totally goes ignore mode and carries on. Monotheists, particularly most practicing muslims are brainwashed from a very young age, it becomes like a mental addiction of sorts or atleast mimics certain patters of irrationality, especially with the addicted who are in denial of being addicted to substances. ( Eg: every cokehead goes through the 'i aint a cokehead, i just do coke for fun. every weekend. and 3 time a week. but i can stop anytime i want, i promise' phase).
diga Posted March 6 Posted March 6 2 hours ago, Vicks57 said: Christianity is just as violent and non-secular as Islam is. monotheisms
Muloghonto Posted March 6 Posted March 6 (edited) 4 hours ago, Vicks57 said: There are monotheistic sects in hinduism as well. So, it is not the right word. "Any religion that says my god is the only true god. All other gods are satan or false gods is a violent religion by definition" There is no monotheism in Hinduism. There is monism. Learn the difference. You are also not in a position to talk about being a Hindu, since you are a Hindu hating dravidianist following an ideology made by whites for their Tamil pets. Edited March 6 by Muloghonto
coffee_rules Posted March 6 Posted March 6 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Muloghonto said: There is no monotheism in Hinduism. There is monism. Learn the difference. There are some Lingayat sects that believe in Shiva alone and nobody else. They believe in total submission to Shiva and they don’t believe in any other god , not even Shakti/or his sons - Ganesh and Muruga. But they don’t believe that other gods are false like the desert cults. Edited March 6 by coffee_rules Vicks57 1
Muloghonto Posted March 6 Posted March 6 Just now, coffee_rules said: There are some Lingayat sects that believe in Shiva alone and nobody else. They believe in total submission to Shiva and they don’t believe in any other god , not even Shakti/or his sons - Ganesh and Muruga Then lingayat isn't Hindu and in violation of Hindu cannons. Simple. Vicks57 1
coffee_rules Posted March 6 Posted March 6 3 minutes ago, Muloghonto said: Then lingayat isn't Hindu and in violation of Hindu cannons. Simple. There was a political movement in Karnataka to declare them as separate religion, because they wanted a share in reservations!! Beliefs in one Ishtadevta has been part of Hindu philosophy as well. But, we don’t believe that other than your ishtadevta, all others are inferior and false gods, like the desert religions.
coffee_rules Posted March 6 Posted March 6 2 minutes ago, Vicks57 said: With idiots like @Muloghonto and his abrahamic perspective, no wonder Lingayats and Sarna people demand for separate religion. Way to reduce the numbers of hindus thanks to morons like him. But the demand for separate religion is not out of religious belief, but more political . What is important is that SC has declared them as Hindus and all personal laws for Hindus apply to them. Even RK Mission is declared a separate religion more because they can run their schools without government interference.
Muloghonto Posted March 6 Posted March 6 17 minutes ago, Vicks57 said: At this point, You are just as violent as a 'Christian' and a 'Muslim' to me. * off. We don't care what we are to Hindu hating dravidanist with CM who wants Hindu genocide and is a rice bagger himself. We don't take lessons on our religion from idiot Tamil white worshippers, sorry. Vicks57 1
Muloghonto Posted March 6 Posted March 6 9 minutes ago, Vicks57 said: So what happens when UCC gets implemented? Hindu personal laws become useless. Anyway, forget all that, this phenomenon is not good at all. Hindu law is closest to ucc so we don't care, idiot boy. Vicks57 1
Muloghonto Posted March 6 Posted March 6 39 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: There was a political movement in Karnataka to declare them as separate religion, because they wanted a share in reservations!! Beliefs in one Ishtadevta has been part of Hindu philosophy as well. But, we don’t believe that other than your ishtadevta, all others are inferior and false gods, like the desert religions. Are you lingayat ??
coffee_rules Posted March 6 Posted March 6 5 minutes ago, Muloghonto said: Are you lingayat ?? No. But the panth/sect originated from Karnataka. Hence, I know more about them. Have a lot of friends
Muloghonto Posted March 6 Posted March 6 3 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: No. But the panth/sect originated from Karnataka. Hence, I know more about them. Have a lot of friends Oh OK. Well they aint Hindus. Hinduism isn't western LGBT movement where any stuck can self identify as a Hindu while not being one, same as idiot western transgender self identifying as women when not being one. Vicks57 1
zen Posted March 6 Posted March 6 The Saudi crown prince is correct. While the fundamentals remain constant, the rules designed to address issues of people living 1,000s of years ago , where many times religious and civil laws mingled, may now not necessarily be applicable. BacktoCricaddict 1
coffee_rules Posted March 6 Posted March 6 (edited) 4 hours ago, Muloghonto said: Oh OK. Well they aint Hindus. Hinduism isn't western LGBT movement where any stuck can self identify as a Hindu while not being one, same as idiot western transgender self identifying as women when not being one. You are confusing Vedic beliefs with Hinduism. Lingayats workship Shiva who is a god in Hindusim which Vedic Sanatan Dharma adopted as well. Shaivism predates Vedas. The Lingayats rejected Vedas , but their belief in one god resembles that of monotheism. Because by the time Basaveshwara opposed the Varna system. in the 12th centuy, India had already seen abrahamic faiths of Islam. 200 years later , Sharanas started the Lingayat cult extending Basaveshwara's beliefs as a cult / panth of Hindusim, never considered themsevles separate from Hindusim , like they want to do it now for political reasons. Some Hindi sects can believe only in Shakta/Tantra/Shiva/Vishnu, but all are embodied under Hindusim. Edited March 6 by coffee_rules Vicks57 1
Muloghonto Posted March 6 Posted March 6 2 hours ago, coffee_rules said: You are confusing Vedic beliefs with Hinduism. Lingayats workship Shiva who is a god in Hindusim which Vedic Sanatan Dharma adopted as well. Shaivism predates Vedas. The Lingayats rejected Vedas , but their belief in one god resembles that of monotheism. Because by the time Basaveshwara opposed the Varna system. 200 years later , Sharanas started the Lingayat cult extending Basaveshwara's beliefs as a cult / panth of Hindusim, never considered themsevles separate from Hindusim , like they want to do it now for political reasons. Some Hindi sects can believe only in Shakta/Tantra/Shiva/Vishnu, but all are embodied under Hindusim. No. I am not. I am simply pointing out that only one god and no other god = monotheism = decisively refuted in Hindu cannon. One god above all other gods = monism = supported by Hindu cannon. One cannot refute theory of X and still be X, that's western postmodernistic dehatism
coffee_rules Posted March 6 Posted March 6 40 minutes ago, Muloghonto said: No. I am not. I am simply pointing out that only one god and no other god = monotheism = decisively refuted in Hindu cannon. One god above all other gods = monism = supported by Hindu cannon. One cannot refute theory of X and still be X, that's western postmodernistic dehatism Now, I get it, It is the latter for Lingayats too, there are other gods , I like mine better, instead of mine is the only true god and rest all are baklolis.
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