Ranvir Posted November 10, 2025 Posted November 10, 2025 11 hours ago, straighttalk said: Who are they? If you mean Muslims..you are equating Muslims who left India and Muslims who decided to stay back. I have zero tolerance for religious intolerance...and I hate intolerant people of any religion. So to those fundamentalist Muslims I don't have much sympathy but if you are a Muslim minding your own business and not indulging in anti national activity...I do not support targeting or ostracizing innocent people just for their religion or actions of Paksitanis. Decided to stay haha! Do you think my grandfather had a choice to stay in his birth village in present day Pakistan? He was forced to flee. The difference is that apart from Punjab and some parts of Bengal Hindus just let the Muslims stay behind without fear of violence. Have you ever heard of the Rawalpindi and Noakali riots? All instigatednby Muslims. Anyway, you have seen what they've done in Delhi.
straighttalk Posted November 19, 2025 Posted November 19, 2025 On 11/10/2025 at 3:35 PM, Ranvir said: Decided to stay haha! Do you think my grandfather had a choice to stay in his birth village in present day Pakistan? He was forced to flee. The difference is that apart from Punjab and some parts of Bengal Hindus just let the Muslims stay behind without fear of violence. Have you ever heard of the Rawalpindi and Noakali riots? All instigatednby Muslims. Anyway, you have seen what they've done in Delhi. Wth are you smoking...during partition there was violence on both sides....some Hindus stayed in East and West Paksitan..similarly some Muslims stayed back in India. There were killings and rapes by Hindus sikhs and Muslims...not just one party. Yes I saw what happened in Delhi...and definitely we should break that terror module and hang all the terrorists. Did I say ever in my post to go soft on terrorism. The point I differ is that 99 percent of Muslims are not terrorist. The one percent is still a large number though. Don't believe me but listen to probably the higher patriot in our country who has more knowledge and experience than everyone here. Also BJP man.
straighttalk Posted November 19, 2025 Posted November 19, 2025 On 10/28/2025 at 1:19 PM, Vilander said: Not happening. This is a lie. Muslims can approach India for asylum. They are not prevented. CAA excludes Muslims.
straighttalk Posted November 19, 2025 Posted November 19, 2025 On 10/28/2025 at 8:21 PM, Gollum said: How are Muslims persecuted in Afg, Pak, BD? The law was to fast track citizenship of Hindus, Sikhs, Christians, Buddhists, Parsis who fled persecution on religious grounds, reminder that Afghans have no Hindu/Sikh citizen left post Taliban takeover, and BD non-Muslim population fell from 22 to 6% post their independence, even now the remaining Chakma Buddhists in CHT are being wiped out under Yunus' nose. Pakistan is a different case altogether, with daily abductions, rapes and forced marriages of minor Hindu girls in Sindh, and even in many of their government jobs, non-Muslims can apply only for janitor jobs, discrimination is that real. Also, 2014 was the cutoff IIRC. Post cutoff, even Muslims can apply for asylum claiming religious persecution. Unnecessary drama around this very humane act. Just like irrespective of religion Hindus specially lower caste Hindus are harassed in India or politicians or journalists are harassed in India..similarly Muslims like I ran Khan or Hasina are harassed and by this law they won't get citizenship or asylum...yes i know Hasina is here but the point remains a lot of awami league pro India people are Muslims and are excluded...
Vilander Posted November 20, 2025 Posted November 20, 2025 7 hours ago, straighttalk said: CAA excludes Muslims. CAA - provides an expedited path to Indian citizenship for persecuted religious minorities from Afghanistan, Bangladesh, and Pakistan. All three countries are 90 - 99 % Muslim so duh.. Muslims can apply for asylum in regular means like everyone else ( all other countries of the world outside of bd pak and afg.). Double duh.. unstraightconstipatedtalk.
Vilander Posted November 20, 2025 Posted November 20, 2025 7 hours ago, straighttalk said: Just like irrespective of religion Hindus specially lower caste Hindus are harassed in India or politicians or journalists are harassed in India..similarly Muslims like I ran Khan or Hasina are harassed and by this law they won't get citizenship or asylum...yes i know Hasina is here but the point remains a lot of awami league pro India people are Muslims and are excluded... Especially. That's the word you want to use. And yes those Muslims can apply for asylum not through CAA but in regular channels.
Vilander Posted November 20, 2025 Posted November 20, 2025 7 hours ago, straighttalk said: The point I differ is that 99 percent of Muslims are not terrorist. 90 percent of terrorists are Muslims though.
Gollum Posted November 20, 2025 Posted November 20, 2025 10 hours ago, straighttalk said: Just like irrespective of religion Hindus specially lower caste Hindus are harassed in India I'll stop you right there, a false and sinister analogy. Right from ISI playbook. How many lower caste Hindus do you know who have fled to Pakistan, Afghanistan, BD due to persecution by upper castes in India? I have no desire to engage with people who argue in bad faith. Suhaan 1
Gollum Posted November 20, 2025 Posted November 20, 2025 (edited) India-Bangladesh women’s cricket series postponed No official reason was given but it is understood that the tense diplomatic relations between the two nations could have led to the decision. Don't think we will play bilaterals with BD any time soon. When Yunus behaves like a troll and gifts Greater Bangladesh material to Turkish envoys and Pakistani generals. When BNP and Jamaatis organize Indian flag (and Hindu symbols) burning galas across the country. Kanglus are the the most ungrateful swine on this planet, and don't deserve any more handouts from India. Edited November 20, 2025 by Gollum Manucrick, Suhaan, Vilander and 2 others 5
Gollum Posted November 20, 2025 Posted November 20, 2025 3 hours ago, Vilander said: 90 percent of terrorists are Muslims though. If you check the database of terror attacks globally, you will be hard pressed to find a single one without Islamic connection.Other forms of terrorism have phases, where they peak, then die out, usually reform comes from within....but in case of radical Islamic terror, even if you wipe out one group, another one will emerge, and they are so spread out geographically, across ethnicities, races, demographies. Even Muslim countries have radical Islamic terror spearheaded by those who wish to impose a purer form of Islam. Vilander, New guy and Lord 1 2
Vilander Posted November 20, 2025 Posted November 20, 2025 7 hours ago, Gollum said: If you check the database of terror attacks globally, you will be hard pressed to find a single one without Islamic connection.Other forms of terrorism have phases, where they peak, then die out, usually reform comes from within....but in case of radical Islamic terror, even if you wipe out one group, another one will emerge, and they are so spread out geographically, across ethnicities, races, demographies. Even Muslim countries have radical Islamic terror spearheaded by those who wish to impose a purer form of Islam. Idealogical. Demographic domination.
Cloud Posted November 20, 2025 Posted November 20, 2025 11 hours ago, Gollum said: If you check the database of terror attacks globally, you will be hard pressed to find a single one without Islamic connection.Other forms of terrorism have phases, where they peak, then die out, usually reform comes from within....but in case of radical Islamic terror, even if you wipe out one group, another one will emerge, and they are so spread out geographically, across ethnicities, races, demographies. Even Muslim countries have radical Islamic terror spearheaded by those who wish to impose a purer form of Islam. Except Israel's terror attacks on its neighbors particularly Lebanon, syria and yemen.
Ranvir Posted November 23, 2025 Posted November 23, 2025 On 11/19/2025 at 5:23 PM, straighttalk said: Wth are you smoking...during partition there was violence on both sides....some Hindus stayed in East and West Paksitan..similarly some Muslims stayed back in India. There were killings and rapes by Hindus sikhs and Muslims...not just one party. Yes I saw what happened in Delhi...and definitely we should break that terror module and hang all the terrorists. Did I say ever in my post to go soft on terrorism. The point I differ is that 99 percent of Muslims are not terrorist. The one percent is still a large number though. Don't believe me but listen to probably the higher patriot in our country who has more knowledge and experience than everyone here. Also BJP man. There was violence on both sides because the Hindus and especially the Sikhs retaliated to violence instigated by the Muslims. The Muslims started it. Have you seen what is happening in Nigeria at the moment? Same community again.
straighttalk Posted November 23, 2025 Posted November 23, 2025 5 hours ago, Ranvir said: There was violence on both sides because the Hindus and especially the Sikhs retaliated to violence instigated by the Muslims. The Muslims started it. Have you seen what is happening in Nigeria at the moment? Same community again. I am vehemently against violence and I am spiritual but anti religion because religion is blurred with nationalism and communalism. Having said that ...the partition violence was not localized...it was brutal and spread across many places. There is no single starting point...in some places Muslims started it. The Nigeria attacks have been politicized by you know who. There is no one side attacking another side ..there is violence happening. I have zero personal idea about Nigeria but sharing the article here https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/21/world/africa/nigeria-trump-genocide-claims.html My issue is targeting terrorists or terrorist supporters is valid, destroying their centers are valid, targeting 200 million plus people ..vast majority of who are innocent is not right. It doesn't mean we have to like them but least we can do is not harm them actively. Criticism of hardline Islamic factions who hate on non believer women and minorities is absolutely right. I will give an example. We have a Muslim doctors behind the Delhi blast. Investigating their connections is good. But I have tow Muslim engineer colleagues or a Muslim doctor in a reputed hospital...I have 0 reasons to harass or suspect them unless their actions prove otherwise.
straighttalk Posted November 23, 2025 Posted November 23, 2025 On 11/19/2025 at 8:14 PM, Gollum said: India-Bangladesh women’s cricket series postponed No official reason was given but it is understood that the tense diplomatic relations between the two nations could have led to the decision. Don't think we will play bilaterals with BD any time soon. When Yunus behaves like a troll and gifts Greater Bangladesh material to Turkish envoys and Pakistani generals. When BNP and Jamaatis organize Indian flag (and Hindu symbols) burning galas across the country. Kanglus are the the most ungrateful swine on this planet, and don't deserve any more handouts from India. Some Bangladeshis..there are lot who support India including Muslims...but then the groups you identified are now in ascendancy... These groups want to get hands on a N bomb from their brother or get into a defense treaty.
straighttalk Posted November 25, 2025 Posted November 25, 2025 On 11/23/2025 at 5:06 AM, Ranvir said: There was violence on both sides because the Hindus and especially the Sikhs retaliated to violence instigated by the Muslims. The Muslims started it. Have you seen what is happening in Nigeria at the moment? Same community again. Since. We are going to take on anecdotal examples ..the recently martyred wing cmdr Syal is married to a Muslim lady who is a wint Cmdr herself as was a patriot like Col Quereshi...these and countless other are 100 times nationalist than the RSS and Bajrang thugs...nationalism is not a Hindu right .it's an Indian right... People can be evil or good irrespective of nationalism...there are extremist in all religion who forsake godliness and spirituality to promote hatred against each other.
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