Zero_Unit Posted February 9 Posted February 9 1 hour ago, raki05 said: And you are sure icc will accept all their demands on behalf of bcci. Folks here overvalue pakistani a lot.. same randi rona they were doing when kangalus were demanding to move their match out of india, cut 2 the have been shown their aukaat. Pakistani does these RR all the time be it 23 wc 16 t20 wc not sure why folks getting twist in their panties, especially those who are galaxy away from subcontinent. I noticed that recently because someone doesn't have the same pov, you started to jump into discussion without actually reading what the other person wrote ... How about take time to read and analyze what the other person wrote first ... Don't make silly comments without understanding the context of the person you're quoting. Go back and prove to me that I mentioned the following: ICC will APPROVE EVERY DEMAND on behalf of BCCI?
raki05 Posted February 9 Posted February 9 1 hour ago, rangeelaraja said: Rakesh @raki05 . Do we need a tri series with the 2 ISLAMIC republics ? Lol, these chewtiya wants go boycott india and at the same time want a triseries as well.. addicted4444, rangeelaraja, spiritb2 and 1 other 4
Zero_Unit Posted February 9 Posted February 9 (edited) 1 hour ago, lemsip said: I don't think so. it is a myth that India vs Pakistan is the only thing that keeps the money rolling for the ICC and that those matches not happening will kill the commercial value generated by the ICC. That may have been the case in the past but ut is rapidly becoming clear that India-Pak proposition has reached its expiration date. For the cycles to come, the ICC can create more opportunities and contests to sell to the broadcasters to replace the India-Pak circus. Sure, future is future, and you are not wrong. But ae are here and now. Here and now matters for the present - and this is the box office match that makes ICC and the hosting country the money. SL didn't reach out to PCB for nothing. If this was Italy v Scotland, no one would give a damn. But on a different note, wtv negotiation happens, wtv PCB gets or doesn't get out of it, PCB will send a team to play India. It was a tactic to bring ICC to the negotiation table, that's all. Edited February 9 by Zero_Unit
jf1gp_1 Posted February 9 Posted February 9 3 minutes ago, raki05 said: Lol, these chewtiya wants go boycott india and at the same time want a triseries as well.. I think it's a brilliant idea. Pak, BD and Indian women team. raki05, rollingstoned, spiritb2 and 1 other 4
raki05 Posted February 9 Posted February 9 42 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said: Old BCCI won't even entertain these Bhikharis and would rather screw them over and squeeze money Outta them. Current lot is besharam and took an entire tournament (Asia Cup) out of India to accomodate Pak and signed some lodu aggrement with Chor Nakvi that Indo -Pak matches will only happen in neutral place no matter who is the host. The nepo chairman couldn't even bring Asia Cup trophy home which India rightfully won. India is not playing asia cup since eternity its not some soecial arrangement done only this time. BTW why do you want to see Pakistani bhikhari in India, isnt it hypocrisy that same nation you dont want to travel you still desperately want to host them and our cheerleader public and hotel staff do garlanding that too after pehelgam. Also isnt these guys come here make videos and share it with ISI also give silly comments about kashmir. Why do you want to force them to play in India . mishra 1
raki05 Posted February 9 Posted February 9 7 minutes ago, Zero_Unit said: I noticed that recently because someone doesn't have the same pov, you started to jump into discussion without actually reading what the other person wrote ... How about take time to read and analyze what the other person wrote first ... Don't make silly comments without understanding the context of the person you're quoting. Go back and prove to me that I mentioned the following: ICC will APPROVE EVERY DEMAND on behalf of BCCI? Lol i think you need to read what you wrote??? Isnt this what you said—“Had you said zero incentive for BCCI, then yes, that would be true” why you assume that just because pakistani doing widhwa vilap like kangalu did and then recieved @ss whopping and get them ousted.
Zero_Unit Posted February 9 Posted February 9 1 hour ago, deathmonger said: Yes, but ICC cannot do those demands without the approval of their member boards including BCCI. ICC is no all powerful entity which the boards all listen to. It is composed of multiple boards and things happen via vote. Will ICC make some concessions - yes, they can but only those which will be tolerated by the BCCI. Maybe a u-19 wc for Bangladesh down the line. No penalty for Bangladesh. Something like that. ICC can't arrange bilateral/tri series etc. Outside their purview. There is a thing called opportunity cost. If ICC has to take actions which will lose them more money than Pakistan playing, they will prefer Pakistan not play. For all the talks of Pakistan boycotting, there is one country ICC can't afford boycotting - that is India. And if push comes to shove, they will always choose India. Yes, you're right. Most ICC will do is, we will take a vote. Probably remove the sanction from Bangladesh they most likely planned (unsure how it would happen when their gov asked them not to play - can't really go up against a gov entity). Probably give some sort of benefit to PCB. Most likely PCB will ask for more revenue to which ICC will say, we will put it on a vote. Don't think much will be accomplished from this anyways. For bilateral, ICC might ask BCCI. Assuming BCCI has some sort of spine, will turn it down. ICC can't do anything from there.
Suhaan Posted February 9 Posted February 9 1 minute ago, Zero_Unit said: Assuming BCCI has some sort of spine, will turn it down. ICC can't do anything from there. BCCI has always maintained its upto GOI,needless to say ,how many times?Since 2008,isn't it raki05 1
Zero_Unit Posted February 9 Posted February 9 2 minutes ago, raki05 said: Lol i think you need to read what you wrote??? Isnt this what you said—“Had you said zero incentive for BCCI, then yes, that would be true” why you assume that just because pakistani doing widhwa vilap like kangalu did and then recieved @ss whopping and get them ousted. Exactly? So if there is zero incentive for BCCi, why would they need to get involved? We are just talking about PCB and BCB here doing a meeting with ICC ... The guy is talking about zero incentive for ICC. You didn't read what I wrote or I have no idea what point you're trying to make.
Lone Wolf Posted February 9 Posted February 9 4 minutes ago, raki05 said: India is not playing asia cup since eternity its not some soecial arrangement done only this time. BTW why do you want to see Pakistani bhikhari in India, isnt it hypocrisy that same nation you dont want to travel you still desperately want to host them and our cheerleader public and hotel staff do garlanding that too after pehelgam. Also isnt these guys come here make videos and share it with ISI also give silly comments about kashmir. Why do you want to force them to play in India . Why do we want to play them at all?? Why so much randi rona and make excuses to play them in neutral venue? Honestly forcing team to play in India is a better deal (would prefer not playing at all) but in a PR dominated world India will be seen a safer country for everyone and Pookistan will be shown as unsafe sh*thole like it is. It would be actual show of force. Pookistan fools and sways world opinion by showing themselves as big hearted, graceful hosts, they will go OTT if India were to Visit Pakistan and invite CNN, BBC, Fox to cover that globally. That's how they invest in 5th gen warfare. Our resident experts anyways bring that Olympics logic that we have to keep agreeing to Pook demands coz of Olympic hosting churan or some shizz And no I don't want our home tournaments to be shifted to a third place to accomodate Pookistan of all countries.
Zero_Unit Posted February 9 Posted February 9 1 minute ago, Suhaan said: BCCI has always maintained its upto GOI,needless to say ,how many times?Since 2008,isn't it Something along the line. 2009 I believe no? When was the last time we had a bilateral series with them?
deathmonger Posted February 9 Posted February 9 5 minutes ago, Zero_Unit said: Yes, you're right. Most ICC will do is, we will take a vote. Probably remove the sanction from Bangladesh they most likely planned (unsure how it would happen when their gov asked them not to play - can't really go up against a gov entity). Probably give some sort of benefit to PCB. Most likely PCB will ask for more revenue to which ICC will say, we will put it on a vote. Don't think much will be accomplished from this anyways. For bilateral, ICC might ask BCCI. Assuming BCCI has some sort of spine, will turn it down. ICC can't do anything from there. 1. There were no sanctions planned on Bangladesh 2. Revenue will be said to be up for "consideration" in next meeting which PCB will sell as chooran to awaam. No one will agree to this cause it will come from their share. 3. ICC won't even talk about bilaterals as outside their jurisdiction. Forget turn down, ICC won't even ask. raki05, Zero_Unit and lemsip 1 2
deathmonger Posted February 9 Posted February 9 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said: Why do we want to play them at all?? Why so much randi rona and make excuses to play them in neutral venue? Honestly forcing team to play in India is a better deal (would prefer not playing at all) but in a PR dominated world India will be seen a safer country for everyone and Pookistan will be shown as unsafe sh*thole like it is. It would be actual show of force. Pookistan fools and sways world opinion by showing themselves as big hearted, graceful hosts, they will go OTT if India were to Visit Pakistan and invite CNN, BBC, Fox to cover that globally. That's how they invest in 5th gen warfare. Our resident experts anyways bring that Olympics logic that we have to keep agreeing to Pook demands coz of Olympic hosting churan or some shizz And no I don't want our home tournaments to be shifted to a third place to accomodate Pookistan of all countries. They don't. Don't go by social media and Pak's bot farms. Check reality. Check power of Pak/Ind passport, international visitors coming to both countries etc. India will get one of 36 40, 44 anyway. Most countries don't want to host and Ambani has sway with IOC. Edited February 9 by deathmonger raki05 1
lemsip Posted February 9 Posted February 9 18 minutes ago, Zero_Unit said: But on a different note, wtv negotiation happens, wtv PCB gets or doesn't get out of it, PCB will send a team to play India. It was a tactic to bring ICC to the negotiation table, that's all. What exactly were they negotiating ? At the end of the day, they got nothing out of the whole exercise.
raki05 Posted February 9 Posted February 9 4 minutes ago, Zero_Unit said: Exactly? So if there is zero incentive for BCCi, why would they need to get involved? We are just talking about PCB and BCB here doing a meeting with ICC ... The guy is talking about zero incentive for ICC. You didn't read what I wrote or I have no idea what point you're trying to make. And i said the same, if bcci not at all involved why you are saying zero incentive gor bcci. Poster you quoted he was actually telling zero incentive for icc to concede any demand to pcb he dint even bring bcci. Its you who mentione that there is zeon incentive for bcci when bcci is not at all involved. All this srama was done by pcb and bcb and yet icc/bcci is at loggerhead.
raki05 Posted February 9 Posted February 9 7 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said: Why do we want to play them at all?? Why so much randi rona and make excuses to play them in neutral venue? Honestly forcing team to play in India is a better deal (would prefer not playing at all) but in a PR dominated world India will be seen a safer country for everyone and Pookistan will be shown as unsafe sh*thole like it is. It would be actual show of force. Pookistan fools and sways world opinion by showing themselves as big hearted, graceful hosts, they will go OTT if India were to Visit Pakistan and invite CNN, BBC, Fox to cover that globally. That's how they invest in 5th gen warfare. Our resident experts anyways bring that Olympics logic that we have to keep agreeing to Pook demands coz of Olympic hosting churan or some shizz And no I don't want our home tournaments to be shifted to a third place to accomodate Pookistan of all countries. You cant boycott icc , bcci has commitment to play icc tournament it’s just that they dont want to play in Pakistan. If icc says well you dont want to play in Pakistan tahn why you are forcing them to play in India, iseally we shouldn’t host and be a hypocrite, Also its always risky to allow pakistani in india, during 2011 wc 1000 of them canme and then went missing and never went back , some of there actors and singers found passing info related to sensative location to ISI. Lol at force them to play in India to create digital superimacy and at the expense of security. I would rather never had any bhikaristani in India at any level.
Suhaan Posted February 9 Posted February 9 (edited) I don't understand why we play Chutiya cup(aka Asia Cup) Ditch it once it for all,it will serve us and world cricket way better Any further negotiations made for future broadcasting rights should be made after clearly stating about no India -pakistan cricket unless it's an ICC game ,round robin or organically occurring KO game This blackmailing can be culled at best in one cycle,BCCI doesn't have to engage pakistan in any form of cricket (even the juniors) Ind vs Aus,Ind vs Eng used to garner tremendous numbers need to encash these alternatives As far as BD is concerned,their absence can be compensated by Nepal(far more potential),fund their cricket,let them play your domestics,IPL,train them in your facilities etc Edited February 9 by Suhaan spiritb2 1
Suhaan Posted February 9 Posted February 9 16 minutes ago, Zero_Unit said: Something along the line. 2009 I believe no? When was the last time we had a bilateral series with them? 2012 raki05 and Zero_Unit 1 1
raki05 Posted February 9 Posted February 9 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Suhaan said: 2012 Lol shameless kangresi hosted those bhikhari in India after 26/11 thats the final nail in their politics. Shameless b@stard dint even took any military action rather welcome them to play biletraland pm attended 2011 wc sf and invited their terrorist pm. Edited February 9 by raki05 Suhaan 1
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