flamy Posted June 14, 2009 Share Posted June 14, 2009 Rohit is at the other end of the spectrum. He actually plays the short ball too early. Link to comment
Watson87 Posted June 14, 2009 Share Posted June 14, 2009 Rohit is a minnow basher, only played well against Ireland and Bangles, what happened against West Indies and today? He is no veeru Link to comment
Params7 Posted June 14, 2009 Share Posted June 14, 2009 I think Raina and Rohit are overrated as well. They'll provide good support, but they are no match winners yet..both failed consecutively against West Indies and now England, because they kept on bowling short pitched deliveries. They have talent, but they need a lot of work. One of them should play in a team with some veterans and keep getting experience in. Link to comment
King Posted June 14, 2009 Share Posted June 14, 2009 Don't write them off just like that. They are good but we hype them too much rather than understand they have their flaws like anybody else. Don't expect them to fill in for the likes of Tendulkar, Rahul, Ganguly and the likes overnight. They need tonnes of experience before they can even become half as good as the other I mentioned. These blokes will get there and their time will come. Not yet though. Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted June 14, 2009 Share Posted June 14, 2009 I agree Rohit can play short pitched stuffs far better than Raina. Just that he had no choice to go after bowling regardless of line of the ball. He succumbed. Link to comment
cowboysfan Posted June 14, 2009 Share Posted June 14, 2009 i think Rohit plays it better but he get into a awkward position to pull and gets a lot of top edges.this can e worked out but Raina has some serious problem. Link to comment
Sachinism Posted June 14, 2009 Share Posted June 14, 2009 Rohit got unlucky today, inside edge onto the stump. Against WI he took on Fidel, I give him credit for that, he hit one four, but the next ball was a tad higher and faster and he couldn't control it, cut the poor guy some slack Link to comment
vipin Posted June 14, 2009 Share Posted June 14, 2009 Raina needs some serious honest practice against fast short pitch. The bad part is that there is no bowler in india who can give him the practice. Maybe Ishant can try. Link to comment
cowboysfan Posted June 14, 2009 Share Posted June 14, 2009 guess where we are playing next-castro and taylor will be itching to go against these guys.they better be prepared because everybody andd their grandma knows whats coming. Link to comment
Alam_dar Posted June 14, 2009 Share Posted June 14, 2009 Pakistan lost to England too due to these Short Pitch Bowling of English Bowlers. Link to comment
Sachinism Posted June 14, 2009 Share Posted June 14, 2009 guess where we are playing next-castro and taylor will be itching to go against these guys.they better be prepared because everybody andd their grandma knows whats coming. Man that is a real worry now, they are going to be peppered We all know what India is going to be practising in the coming weeks Link to comment
Dhondy Posted June 14, 2009 Share Posted June 14, 2009 Both Rohit and Raina will be back. I like how Nasser Hussein, himself a piss poor ODI batsman, someone who bogged down England middle-order batting for years and years with nudging and fudging, can brand people as 'Oh, he's poor against short-pitched bowling' after seeing them perform for a couple of matches. Lets not forget, we've test match series' in England, New Zealand and West Indies in the last few years. We couldnt have done it if didnt know how to handle short-pitched stuff. We may have been caught a bit unawares this time around, but these two players will be a shining rock in many of our victory crowns in the future. Nasser was harsh, but correct. Since these two haven't played Tests, the criticism cannot be transposed to Test matches, but if Nasser was implying that historically, Indian bats have had a problem against the short pitched rearing delivery, he was not far off the mark. India need to work on that aspect of the game. BTW, Nasser also expressed a huge amount of respect for Yuvraj. He clearly holds him in very, very high regard. That's the way to commentate- respect where it's due, opprobrium where it's not. Link to comment
The Outsider Posted June 14, 2009 Share Posted June 14, 2009 Both Rohit and Raina will be back. I like how Nasser Hussein, himself a piss poor ODI batsman, someone who bogged down England middle-order batting for years and years with nudging and fudging, can brand people as 'Oh, he's poor against short-pitched bowling' after seeing them perform for a couple of matches. Lets not forget, we've test match series' in England, New Zealand and West Indies in the last few years. We couldnt have done it if didnt know how to handle short-pitched stuff. We may have been caught a bit unawares this time around, but these two players will be a shining rock in many of our victory crowns in the future. What are you on about test series win in WI, NZ, and England in thread after thread. Rohit and Raina have never played a test match in their lives and those series wins had nothing in common with the batting line up here although both match were played under the "India" banner. Those matches had Dravid, Tendulkar, Sehwag, Laxman, and Ganguly in them. Nasseer Hussain was spot on - our batting line up needs to do some serious work against quality short pitch bowling. Link to comment
King Tendulkar Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 Both are fine against the short ball. The problem is in 20/20 you cant duck the short ball which raina has being doing in other forms of the game. Instead you have to take it on and play the pull to keep up the run rate. They will and are both fine. Link to comment
ritwik Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 Rohit is at the other end of the spectrum. He actually plays the short ball too early. Absolutely. He has a ridiculous amount of time to play his shots. Somebody has to drill some judgement into him. It will be very sad indeed if he manages to waste his prodigious talent to unwise shot selection. Yeserday's defeat was a case of "the more things changed, the more they remain the same". We discovered that even our younger generation of batsman who have rubbed shoulders with world class players in the IPL struggle against genuine pace bowling. Its also worth noting that RP was the only Indian bowler who looked effective yesterday, and he is the only one who is able to work up good pace on a consistent basis. I hope that our cricket administrators/coaches/armchair experts stop dismissing the benefits of raw pace, and stop trying to make potentially pacy bowlers into typically indian "line and length is more important than pace" trundlers. Link to comment
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