dial_100 Posted June 30, 2009 Posted June 30, 2009 Wow....so same people when they live in Pak and see similar oppression on the people of different countries/religion even in the their school curriculum is okay... So you are forced to study Islamiyat from class I is okay. But Showing a face is a problem in different country even though they have a reason to force that law. If that law is in fair amount a balance law then everyone shouldn't have problem with it. sufficient face open should be acceptable to that country. At least in France they dont force the muslim kids to study bible or any other religion
Macj Posted June 30, 2009 Posted June 30, 2009 You are missing the point. The bar is higher for those have set a high standard for themselves' date=' namely the west, in terms of individual liberty and freedom. It is exactly the reason why there is even a debate about a country like France as opposed to a hopeless situation like the Saudis.[/quote'] Until of course the West metastasizes into an Islamic society where Islam and all facets of Islam are on the pulpit and all else is subject to dhimmitude. Then the comparison of standards holds valid no more. Danish Imams have already called for Danish women to cover themselves and not blame Muslim youth for rape as a consequence.
beetle Posted July 3, 2009 Posted July 3, 2009 Women who wear burkha out of choice are too obsessed with their bodies.It's just a bloody body.Everyone has one... They should worry more about their brains.
MarathaPride Posted July 5, 2009 Posted July 5, 2009 So, the french/eurpoe is the cultural authority on the entire world now is it? Tomorrow, if another western country declares that Indian arranged marriages are llegal as it curbs the right of the individual to freely chose his/her own life, I suppose you would be in agreement as well? My $0.02 on the arranged marriage bit... In the India of today, I believe it is fair to say that about 95% of the time, it would be 2 individuals consenting to get married to each other, w/o any force/coercion/pressure involved. Supposing any of these couples migrate to France, and arranged marriage is outlawed for whatever reason; if the two partners are truly happy with each other, they can simply re-register under a new marriage license thereby circumventing the rule itself. If not, then the woman/man who was truly constrained by the relationship will leave, which is moral and right as well. Extending your analogy a bit further to get the true essence of your question, you can see that even if restrictions are imposed on any facet of "Indian" culture by any Western country, the effect would be marginal at best, and Indians would continue living in harmony with Western values. On the other, the restrictive nature of the majority of Muslim immigrants makes any such compromise/integration/assimilation particularly difficult.
Guest Shivani Posted July 5, 2009 Posted July 5, 2009 Sarkozy rocks :p We need to come out of the conventions we live by ... I'm so happy good things like 'banning burqa/hijaab' , 'legalising gayism and lesbianism' are happening to the world ... The world's healing now
punjabi_khota Posted July 5, 2009 Posted July 5, 2009 Sarkozy rocks :p We need to come out of the conventions we live by ... I'm so happy good things like 'banning burqa/hijaab' , 'legalising gayism and lesbianism' are happening to the world ... The world's healing now Hijaab is not being banned anywhere.
Guest Shivani Posted July 5, 2009 Posted July 5, 2009 Burqa A loose garment (usually with veiled holes for the eyes) worn by Muslim women especially in India and Pakistan "the Taliban forced all women to wear the burqa" Hijab A headscarf worn by Muslim women; conceals the hair and neck and usually has a face veil that covers the face The custom in some Islamic societies of women dressing modestly outside the home "she observes the hijab and does not wear tight clothing"
Texy Posted July 5, 2009 Posted July 5, 2009 This topic has been on fire in many muslim forums yet no one ever talks about every non muslim having to wear that hijab b.s in Saudi and other arab countries? They're such full of hypocrisy... no rights for YOU IN MY country but I deman EVERY RIGHT FOR ME in YOUR COUNTRY...
kumble_rocks Posted July 10, 2009 Posted July 10, 2009 Hundreds of Uighurs muslims getting slaughtering is far more important issue than such a benign discrimination calling for burqa ban . Why am I not surprised that this burqa issue has garnered far more attention by Islamic countries and deluded liberals worldwide!
Texy Posted September 15, 2010 Posted September 15, 2010 France Senate approves face veil BAN -- this is historic!
achilles Posted September 15, 2010 Posted September 15, 2010 This is going to be protested and will be making news for the next week or so. And then the ban will still stay.
Jadoo Posted September 15, 2010 Posted September 15, 2010 About time, anyone who has an issue with the ban should feck off to a shiria governed islamic country, countries where a man dictates when and where a woman can take a dump.
someone Posted September 15, 2010 Posted September 15, 2010 About time' date=' anyone who has an issue with the ban should feck off to a shiria governed islamic country, countries where a man can dictates when and where a woman can take a dump.[/quote'] exactly, go back to where you came from if you want to live like that place and its rules.
punjabi_khota Posted September 15, 2010 Posted September 15, 2010 France Senate approves face veil BAN -- this is historic! Sure, because it affects like 100 women :rotfl:
Ram Posted September 15, 2010 Posted September 15, 2010 This is not a womens’ empowerment issue, but a civil rights issue. However noble its intentions are, the govt. has no business telling people what to wear and what not to wear.
kumble_rocks Posted September 15, 2010 Posted September 15, 2010 This is not a womens’ empowerment issue' date=' but a civil rights issue. However noble its intentions are, the govt. has no business telling people what to wear and what not to wear.[/quote'] So , you are perfectly fine if somebody walks naked in public !:--D
Clarke Posted September 15, 2010 Posted September 15, 2010 Yet another reason for the holy warriors in Kashmir to burn/destroy govt buildings, private property and shout azzzaaaaddiiiiiiiiiiii
Ram Posted September 15, 2010 Posted September 15, 2010 So ' date=' you are perfectly fine if somebody walks naked in public !:--D[/quote'] For the record, I personally don’t have a problem if someone wants to walk nude on the road. :--D But from the perspective of the laws of society within which we live, the idea of naked man on the streets and a burqa clad women is not comparable. While the former is plainly offensive/disturbing, the latter, while not entirely desirable, is perfectly acceptable.
punjabi_khota Posted September 15, 2010 Posted September 15, 2010 For the record, I personally don’t have a problem if someone wants to walk nude on the road. :--D But from the perspective of the laws of society within which we live, the idea of naked man on the streets and a burqa clad women is not comparable. While the former is plainly offensive/disturbing, the latter, while not entirely desirable, is perfectly acceptable. Maybe for 82% of French people (who support the ban), according to the laws in their society burqa is offensive too :dontknow:
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