Jersey #10 Posted October 23, 2011 Posted October 23, 2011 No ' date=' One more - Abu Nechim.[/quote'] yeah give me that...:finger:
Jersey #10 Posted October 23, 2011 Posted October 23, 2011 My new dream: India play 5 pacers at Perth one day 1. Zak 2. Ishant 3. Umesh 4. Varun 5. Nachim (hoping he's good) ps. my previous dream was to see Sachin lift the WC trophy in Wankhede ...:D
King Tendulkar Posted October 23, 2011 Author Posted October 23, 2011 Would this encourage the selectors to give a go to Abu Nechim as well? Another guy easily capable of hitting 90 mph consistently. Worth a punt during the WI ODIs later in the year. Yes get him in. We need to have a look at him.
Jersey #10 Posted October 23, 2011 Posted October 23, 2011 Fastest ball: 145 and the average of 142. That's some consistent speed
MCcricket Posted October 23, 2011 Posted October 23, 2011 A'ight for all of us who were waiting India has 3 bowlers who can tough 150 k's Ishant, Umesh , Varun, these guys can bowl in the 90's range, let these guys compete and improve, hopefully they stay fit and are nurtured.Still to come Rahul , Shami , Nechim future of bowling looks promising, maybe the England tour was a blessing in disguise , Dhoni seems to have shown a slight shift in his approach, he realised we can have a fast bowler per say.
King Tendulkar Posted November 18, 2011 Author Posted November 18, 2011 The wait is over. We have Yadav We also now have Aaron. :yay:
saneindian Posted November 19, 2011 Posted November 19, 2011 Hope Abu Nechim also gets a chance soon. We will have 4 guys bowling 140+, all of them 22-23 years of age which should help us rotate them properly, helping extend their careers and the span for which they bowl quick.
punjabi_khota Posted November 19, 2011 Posted November 19, 2011 I don't remember the time before Umesh and Aaron. :hmmmm2: Hard to imagine that we didn't have an express fast bowler at some point in time.
WC2011INDIA Posted November 19, 2011 Posted November 19, 2011 I thought Munaf, Irfan and Zaheer bowled 140+ when they made their international debut but the first two lost considerable pace, while Zaheer consistently bowls in the 130s. Munaf needs to be kicked out of the team though. Terrible fielder and not so positive attitude. It's a surprise he bowled so well in the WC semi final.
Trichromatic Posted November 19, 2011 Posted November 19, 2011 Irfan was not fast. He touched 140 in Aus, but he used to bowl mostly around 80-85 mph. Zaheer could bowl at avg speed of 140.
rkt.india Posted November 19, 2011 Posted November 19, 2011 I thought Munaf, Irfan and Zaheer bowled 140+ when they made their international debut but the first two lost considerable pace, while Zaheer consistently bowls in the 130s. Munaf needs to be kicked out of the team though. Terrible fielder and not so positive attitude. It's a surprise he bowled so well in the WC semi final. Irfan was never 140+, while Munaf and Zak intentionally reduced their pace as they did not have the dedication to work on their fitness and stamina and sustain that pace. In fact, after WC 2003, Zak had gained so much weight by 2005 test series in Pak that his pace had reduced to 125-130K and then he was dropped for good.
rkt.india Posted November 19, 2011 Posted November 19, 2011 Irfan was not fast. He touched 140 in Aus' date=' but he used to bowl mostly around 80-85 mph. Zaheer could bowl at avg speed of 140.[/quote'] Zak too did not have average at 140K his average mostly was 137K even at his fastest with fastest being around 145 in ODIs, not in tests. He was not that quick in test matches.
Hur Rizvi Posted November 19, 2011 Posted November 19, 2011 Congrats to Indians on discovering good pace bowlers.... yadav and Aaron are quick but still not express like Akhtar,Sami,Waqar,Zahid more in the bracket of Muhammad Akram,Wahab etc in terms of pace quicker than Gul,Junad,cheema etc for sure
Hur Rizvi Posted November 19, 2011 Posted November 19, 2011 Zak too did not have average at 140K his average mostly was 137K even at his fastest with fastest being around 145 in ODIs' date=' not in tests. He was not that quick in test matches.[/quote'] Zaheer has never got people out with pure pace. his bowling is based on skill and intelligence...
Rightarmfast Posted November 19, 2011 Posted November 19, 2011 Congrats to Indians on discovering good pace bowlers.... yadav and Aaron are quick but still not express like Akhtar,Sami,Waqar,Zahid more in the bracket of Muhammad Akram,Wahab etc in terms of pace quicker than Gul,Junad,cheema etc for sure Your Sami was a 135-140kph bowler when he hit the international scene. It was only later that he increased his pace. Zahid was only hype.He was never that quick. Umesh and Aaron have just started their career. If they can increase their speed,it will only happen in about 6months - 1 yr time. And if they are going to reduce their pace, even thats going to happen in the same timeframe. Moral of the story - Do not start comparing with Akhtar and Lee. They may become 150+ later in their career if they have to. Exactly how the other pacers evolved with time !
Hur Rizvi Posted November 19, 2011 Posted November 19, 2011 Your Sami was a 135-140kph bowler when he hit the international scene. It was only later that he increased his pace. Zahid was only hype.He was never that quick. Umesh and Aaron have just started their career. If they can increase their speed,it will only happen in about 6months - 1 yr time. And if they are going to reduce their pace, even thats going to happen in the same timeframe. Moral of the story - Do not start comparing with Akhtar and Lee. They may become 150+ later in their career if they have to. Exactly how the other pacers evolved with time ! HAinnnn!!! I remember Sami's debut he bowled in high 140s and several deliveries over 150kph, he was damn quick in 2001-2004 period ...there is a video of 2002 [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UL4HRG93RGE]95 mph by sami bowling england batsmen - YouTube[/ame] Zahid wasnt hype lara admitted him being the fastest he has faced. There is video of his comeback in 2003 when he returned after he had broken his back 3 times still he was clocking 140k plus I am not saying they cant get quick in future but for that they have to work very hard. I like what i have seen from yadav and Aaron so best of luck to them
Rightarmfast Posted November 19, 2011 Posted November 19, 2011 I remember Sami bowling not over 140 and very rarely 145 when he started off...And then just one fine morning I woke up to see Sami clocking 150..So that was something..I am not saying anything bad about Sami. But he was not quick from the word go ! He took his time to develop himself into genuinely fast. Zahid was a hype , I repeat !
Hur Rizvi Posted November 19, 2011 Posted November 19, 2011 I remember Sami bowling not over 140 and very rarely 145 when he started off...And then just one fine morning I woke up to see Sami clocking 150..So that was something..I am not saying anything bad about Sami. But he was not quick from the word go ! He took his time to develop himself into genuinely fast. Zahid was a hype ' date=' I repeat ![/quote'] I am not a sami fan either but he was genuinely fast when he appeared on the scene i repeat i remember him clocking few deliveries over 150kph on his debut in Newzealnad when he took 8 wkts. I was amazed at his pace he was only 19 back then i thought we have discovered a replacement of waqar and wasim but alas he never performed to his potential Zahid was pacy at least as fast as Shoaib even shoaib says so who doesnt always accept anyone being faster than him,Zahid though had a short career it is an other matte whether he would have mantained that pace in the long run or not...
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