Abhimanyu Mithun : Top Wicket Taker 2009/10 RANJI SEASON

[Malcolm Merlyn]

means mithun is another medium pacer:wall:

[vvvslaxman]

135K? :hysterical::hysterical:

[rkt.india]

i think so, but we still have to look for Umesh Yadav in this IPL

[King Tendulkar]

And dravid called him fast

[rkt.india]

:dontknow: why

[Malcolm Merlyn]

he bowled 143ks in IPL so:dontknow:

[jusarrived]

hes not , am pretty certain he will be faster than any bowler we have seen in the past decade

[rkt.india]

yes he has bowled at 145 in IPL which i saw myself

[King Tendulkar]

I don't think speed guns are consistent world wide. No doubt then when our bowlers play aboard , there speeds are faster. May be due to more effort cos of pace friendly pitches. But me thinks the guns just clock faster

[Ram]

And there we go again, people have already started bashing him.. I am sure 75% of the people having a go at him have probably not seen him bowl even once.. I saw this guy bowl a couple of spells and let me say that even though he isnt anywhere near express quick, he is still decent, irrespective of what the speeds say. Ultimately, that is what matters. You win matches by bowling good balls and taking wickets for your team, not by having a competition with the speed gun. Even though he was quite listless in his first spell, he made an excellent comeback in his second, picking up two wickets when Mumbai was building up a dangerous partnership. And BOTH those wickets were bowled, BOTH the balls were yorkers and BOTH the batsmen were quite clearly beaten for pace. Trust me, it isnt often that we have batsmen being beaten for pace and bowled neck and crop in our domestic cricket. The guy has an almost ideal build for a quick - Tall enough, broad across his shoulders and an abnormally long span (You could see his arms are quite long, especially when he celebrates a wicket). That means he will a deceptively high release, which probably explains the good bounce he gets. And lets not forget, he's just 20. For someone so young, they werent so many loose balls. Sure, he was far from landing the ball on the spot 6 times an over, but accuracy isnt one of his major issues. I think with a bit of work on his action, he can become a better bowler. I am tempted to say he can maybe add a couple of yards of pace, but I havent seen any fast bowler get quicker as time progresses, even though international cricket commentators repeatedly keep saying this bowler can get quicker, that bowler can get quicker. And, he suffered from what I think is a hamstring problem (he didnt bowl in the second session). That may have hampered his speeds in the time he was bowling. So, lets not write him off just yet. He is better than 95% of the strictly military medium that we see in domestic cricket.

[Ram]

And for all those yearning that India produce someone who can bowl 150+ on a consistent basis, please have a healthy dose of reality check. Lets face it, we are not the most powerfully built peoples. And cricket, specifically bowling and the pace aspect involved in it, is a lot about build and brute strength. Dont you guys think that, with so Indians playing the game so much for so long, if we could have produced an express quick, we would have done it by now? And it hasnt happened yet. That is not to say it is impossible. Who knows, even next week, someone from out of the blue may pop out and pleasantly surprise us all, but lets just admit its is quite improbable. The dilemma we face in fast bowling is so similar to the one someone like the English or the West Indians face in producing a world class wristy batsmen who excel in subcontinental conditions against spinners. There's a reason why a big proportion of Asian batsmen excel against spin bowling and big proportion of English and South African batsmen struggle again. Its just the way our bodies are designed. So, for sanity's sake at least, lets just stop whining as to when that Godsend genuine quick will warm the hearts of millions of fans. BUT, what we should continuously hope for is that we produce world class quicks who are capable of winning test matches, both at home and abroad. And that is something we have consistently done in the last decade and we should make sure the pipeline keeps flowing. Lets not behave like the Pakistanis and ogle over speed gun readings like a dog would do over a bone piece. Pace does NOT win you test matches, good bowling does. :isalute:

[Show_stopper]

Yeah I am feeling a bit let down as well..it almost seems like his pace has decreased. Mind you its been almost a year since I saw him bowl. Oh well, I guess it was just SA high altitude levels which enabled him tro record those speeds. I agree with Maris that there si enough potential there to represent India..but he won't prolly cause a revolution or something..lol.

[coffee_rules]

He has the talent. On a placid pitch in Bangalore against UP, he got the ball to spit fire and was responsible for UP to be bowled out for 208 after Kar had batted for 2 days to post a huge score. Another season for domestic cricket will not harm him and he could be drafted to the A tours. Hoping he won't be affected by IPL-III.

[youngindia]

And for all those yearning that India produce someone who can bowl 150+ on a consistent basis' date=' please have a healthy dose of reality check. Lets face it, we are not the most powerfully built peoples. And cricket, specifically bowling and the pace aspect involved in it, is a lot about build and brute strength.[/quote'] not true. brett lee is no body builder or physical brute especially in his early age. akthar was also pretty slim when he came on first. aamer is also not a brute. one has to look at factors like shoulder trunk rotation,arm speed etc.when i read a research about a tennis server, it mentioned factors like this. shud not be much different here as well. its more about biomechanical gifts than physical gift. for instance sania, a little petite girl can smack that ferocious forehand with pure timing + biomechanics. natural athleticism plays a role in the momentum leading up as well. being tall certainly helps. i am not sure being strong is.

[punjabi_khota]

And for all those yearning that India produce someone who can bowl 150+ on a consistent basis' date=' please have a healthy dose of reality check. [b']Lets face it, we are not the most powerfully built peoples. And cricket, specifically bowling and the pace aspect involved in it, is a lot about build and brute strength. Dont you guys think that, with so Indians playing the game so much for so long, if we could have produced an express quick, we would have done it by now? And it hasnt happened yet. That is not to say it is impossible. Who knows, even next week, someone from out of the blue may pop out and pleasantly surprise us all, but lets just admit its is quite improbable. The dilemma we face in fast bowling is so similar to the one someone like the English or the West Indians face in producing a world class wristy batsmen who excel in subcontinental conditions against spinners. There's a reason why a big proportion of Asian batsmen excel against spin bowling and big proportion of English and South African batsmen struggle again. Its just the way our bodies are designed. Lets not behave like the Pakistanis and ogle over speed gun readings like a dog would do over a bone piece. Pace does NOT win you test matches, good bowling does. :isalute:

Your logic is very very wrong. Mohammad Sami and Mohammad Aamer are FAR from "powerfully" built. Aamer is stick thin and was hurling the ball at 150Ks. Imran Khan was NOT powerfully built..he was very thin too.

[coffee_rules]

Your logic is very very wrong. Mohammad Sami and Mohammad Aamer are FAR from "powerfully" built. Aamer is stick thin and was hurling the ball at 150Ks. Imran Khan was NOT powerfully built..he was very thin too.

Srinath our express bowler in the 90s who touched 149 and unrecorded he was faster than Donald in 1996 was a lean mean kaddipudi machine.

[vvvslaxman]

Actully i want someone like Mcgrath more than Dennis Lillee. It is practical. Just you ahve to bowl the ball at the same spot with little bit of seam movement either way. Rightnow every single bowler is erratic.

[Ram]

not true. brett lee is no body builder or physical brute especially in his early age. akthar was also pretty slim when he came on first. aamer is also not a brute. one has to look at factors like shoulder trunk rotation,arm speed etc.when i read a research about a tennis server, it mentioned factors like this. shud not be much different here as well. its more about biomechanical gifts than physical gift. for instance sania, a little petite girl can smack that ferocious forehand with pure timing + biomechanics. natural athleticism plays a role in the momentum leading up as well. being tall certainly helps. i am not sure being strong is.

Your logic is very very wrong. Mohammad Sami and Mohammad Aamer are FAR from "powerfully" built. Aamer is stick thin and was hurling the ball at 150Ks. Imran Khan was NOT powerfully built..he was very thin too.

I did not mean to imply that all Indians are weakly built or to bowl fast, you MUST be powerfully built. But the reality is there for everyone to see. Of course, someone like Aamer or even a Agarkar are of slight built, but have generated decent pace. But if you guys are going completely deny that gene make up plays no role whatsoever, then I dont know what to so. There's a reason why the NBA is dominated by African Americans, or Gymnastics is dominated by the Chinese or Marathon running is full of Africans. In those instances, everyone easily admits its got a lot to do with how those are gifted with natural athleticism. And dont get me wrong, I dont mean to bring this point up in a de-meaning sort of way. Its just a matter-of-fact acceptance of reality. Could there be an Indian bowler in the near future who can bowl express fast? Sure. Could he be of slight build? Sure, why not? But, is it probable that this will happen? I suppose not. Of course, our genetic make-up also means we're capable of producing some of the most gifted batsmen this world can hope to see. So, while we may lose out on certain aspects, we gain in a few others.

[King Tendulkar]

MM has clearly never been to Punjab. Wanna see some some strong tall well built blokes then come see them there. Agree most other indians are wimps, particularly in south:--D

[vvvslaxman]

I dont think you need strong body. There was one guy Bharat Arun. He would look like King kong. But he was very slow. Even among foreign players lot of strong guys bowled slower. McMillan from South Africa was only bowling at 130 to 135k. He was a pretty big bloke. wrist position, release, arm speed, run up lot of factors contribue to speed. Aggy for his small frame is much quicker than Irfan pathan ever was.