saneindian Posted August 21, 2010 Posted August 21, 2010 The last time we played a charity match vs them for Imran's cancer hospital (think it was at Crystal Palace in London in the early 90s), the bast*rds invaded the pitch so that Pakistan doesn't lose. Why risk a similar invasion again?
ZodiaC Posted August 21, 2010 Posted August 21, 2010 Yes we should. Besides india vs pak is always funnnn :D
nballa Posted August 21, 2010 Posted August 21, 2010 they should, and should lose on purpose to uplift the spirit of those poor people affected by the floods.
Pioneer Posted August 21, 2010 Posted August 21, 2010 NO Well then whats the point of writing out that long-ass sig you got there
The Outsider Posted August 21, 2010 Posted August 21, 2010 Yes, but the government should ensure transparency of the money.
THX_1138 Posted August 21, 2010 Posted August 21, 2010 i am getting sick of this anti pakistan sentiment. there are over 20 million souls that have been displaced from their homes. we are letting petty jingoism get in the way of providing assistance. today its the adjoining nation that we dont seem to care for, next it would be regional apathy, and soon we would be apathetic towards the suffering of the man next door. true, any assistance we provide would not be received well, and we would still be targeted by the violent fringe of that nation, but as good hindus it is our duty to provide assistance to another of the lord's subjects.
coffee_rules Posted August 21, 2010 Posted August 21, 2010 ^jingoism or indifference? Since 26/11 when ordinary Pakis came and killed ordinary Indians, I am indifferent to what transpires in that country..
THX_1138 Posted August 21, 2010 Posted August 21, 2010 ^jingoism or indifference? Since 26/11 when ordinary Pakis came and killed ordinary Indians' date=' I am indifferent to what transpires in that country..[/quote'] would you say that 26/11 was supported by each and every one of those who are currently suffering? if you really do believe so, my next question to you is, were you directly influenced by the violence of 26/11? if and only if you answer yes to both of the above, is your sentiment even worth discussing (not saying it is justified, hatred it never justified, especially hating someone in need).
THX_1138 Posted August 21, 2010 Posted August 21, 2010 The last time we played a charity match vs them for Imran's cancer hospital (think it was at Crystal Palace in London in the early 90s), the bast*rds invaded the pitch so that Pakistan doesn't lose. Why risk a similar invasion again? the last instance of a pitch invasion in cricket history occured at the mecca of indian cricket? maybe by your logic, eden gardens should not have seen any more cricket since that incident.
The Outsider Posted August 21, 2010 Posted August 21, 2010 would you say that 26/11 was supported by each and every one of those who are currently suffering? if you really do believe so' date=' my next question to you is, were you directly influenced by the violence of 26/11? if and only if you answer yes to both of the above, is your sentiment even worth discussing (not saying it is justified, hatred it never justified, especially hating someone in need).[/quote'] Yes, to the first part - terrorist organizations are being run as charity in Pakistan, for which each Pakistani contriutes for the freedom of Kashmir. Yes, to the second part also - I would have shared a few drinks with Gambit but for the Bombay massacre.
THX_1138 Posted August 21, 2010 Posted August 21, 2010 Yes, to the first part - terrorist organizations are being run as charity in Pakistan, for which each Pakistani contriutes for the freedom of Kashmir. Yes, to the second part also - I would have shared a few drinks with Gambit but for the Bombay massacre. similarly i believe we are all to blame every time bajrang dal does something silly? the funding for these terrorist outfits comes predominantly from the illegal trades they engage in: narcotics, gun running, extortion rings in the middle east, and the occasional saudi benefactor. few pakistanis are economically well off enough to contribute significantly to these organizations. and quite frankly, the inconvenience presented to you and gambit is absolutely trivial as compared to the perils and problems faced by the flood hit individuals, and it is quite reflective of you as a human being that you feel that the two were even the same ball park.
Clarke Posted August 21, 2010 Posted August 21, 2010 I think we should .. at a personal level, most of us abhor that country but in the world of diplomacy, u got to play it along. Which is why we send doctors in exchange of holy warriors. In before somebody mentions those living in England on dole :P
Guest Gunner Posted August 21, 2010 Posted August 21, 2010 Well then whats the point of writing out that long-ass sig you got there Well said.
The Outsider Posted August 21, 2010 Posted August 21, 2010 similarly i believe we are all to blame every time bajrang dal does something silly? the funding for these terrorist outfits comes predominantly from the illegal trades they engage in: narcotics, gun running, extortion rings in the middle east, and the occasional saudi benefactor. few pakistanis are economically well off enough to contribute significantly to these organizations. and quite frankly, the inconvenience presented to you and gambit is absolutely trivial as compared to the perils and problems faced by the flood hit individuals, and it is quite reflective of you as a human being that you feel that the two were even the same ball park. Are you willing to engage in a factual discussion beyond BS like you crapped about the Higgs Bosson? Answer yes or no, and my answer will depend on whether you want to talk through this like an intelligent human being or a troll?
Bumper Posted August 21, 2010 Posted August 21, 2010 i am getting sick of this anti pakistan sentiment. there are over 20 million souls that have been displaced from their homes. we are letting petty jingoism get in the way of providing assistance. today its the adjoining nation that we dont seem to care for, next it would be regional apathy, and soon we would be apathetic towards the suffering of the man next door. true, any assistance we provide would not be received well, and we would still be targeted by the violent fringe of that nation, but as good hindus it is our duty to provide assistance to another of the lord's subjects. That pov is just too naive or is totally missing the point. Pakistani govt & the ISI has been merrily spending whatever money it is getting in the form of foreign aid in replenishing its nuclear arsenal and fighter jets. Ask the US. The country is being ravaged by terrorists, its economy has been non-existent and yet its military might is among the top 5 in the world. Infact, I dont think any other country in the world has this kinda disparity between its economic and military standing. What does that tell you ? It tells me that the country clearly has its priorities wrong! There was a statement by a German minister recently that Pakistan would have a lot more money to spend on its victims had it not been spending money on its nuclear bombs. Does a country that is in deep **** economy wise, need 70+ nuclear bombs (and more) ? Looking at it another way, whatever money India gives to Pakistan, is freeing up enough Pakistani cash that would be spent on weapons targeting our own people. As for people dying, there are countless dying in India of hunger, poverty etc. There are countless dying in Africa. I'd rather help them. Taking emotions aside, strategically it makes no sense for India to funnel any aid to Pakistan. We are better off flushing that money down the toilet. If you keep feeding a viper, some day or the other you gotta expect to get bitten. Numerous acts of terrorism in India, organized by the LeT (aka JuD) backed by ISI is reason enough for India to step back and watch its neighbour crumble and self destruct than play a part in resurrecting it. Emotions have no role to play in international politics.
Zap_Brannigan Posted August 21, 2010 Posted August 21, 2010 Lets see, 1. 300 million pounds they got for the earthquake was moved to different projects 2. LET and other organizations masquerading as charity will get a part of the money, probably 3. Their history books taught in school says that India and Indians are evil 4. Last time we gave them supplies, they removed the "made in india" sticker before giving it 5. When they were begging the world for aid and when we offered, they had to be told by US to accept it. On a long shot, knowing Pak, the kids and families that are affected are probably gonna be taught that india are responsible for the flooding. As much i hate to see people affected (actually havent seen images from pak to stay away emotionally from this), i am afraid that there is a small chance that this flood will be a reason for another 26/11. And since that would affect the quality of life for me, my family, friends in future, i would say sod off. If this was any other country, i would have given money and encouraged a charity drive in my office. Lets not forget that most of the money will be used by butt for his 5 star hotel bills and Moyo's legal defense anyway.
sandeep Posted August 21, 2010 Posted August 21, 2010 in an alternate reality, where Pak government didnt shamelessly sponsor murder of 1000s of Indian civilians for 2 decades? yes.
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