Manny_Pacquiao Posted January 28, 2011 Posted January 28, 2011 LOL, check out the internet extremist ^
Manny_Pacquiao Posted January 28, 2011 Posted January 28, 2011 Sorry I dont belong to the religion of Peace hence cant be an Extremist . Keep sucking them to the core without knowing the ground reality in Kashmir which are under the same threat as many parts of the world due to the sick 7th century Ideology of desert Bandits who have only destroyed local culture wherever they have gone and forced there religion with Swords. The only option left to deal with them is by using " Force" u arent here to talk about cricket, are u
arun81 Posted January 28, 2011 Posted January 28, 2011 Its pretty obvious these days, that Abrahmic religions of India definetly are Anti Hindu.. For them their Political affliations are higher than national interests...Good for them, Vote for Congress and get poorer generation after generation
Javier Posted January 28, 2011 Posted January 28, 2011 Its pretty obvious these days' date=' that Abrahmic religions of India definetly are Anti Hindu.. For them their Political affliations are higher than national interests...Good for them, Vote for Congress and get poorer generation after generation[/quote'] True but Christians are the most secular community in India and give a rats ass about following the teachings of Bible with closed eyes. Followers of the " Most Peaceful Religion " are the biggest threat not only to India but to the entire world .
Mariyam Posted January 28, 2011 Posted January 28, 2011 If congress scraps the article then it will result in a massive loss of votes coming from " Followers of Religion of piece" . Hell let them have Pakistan , Bangladesh , gift them Kashmir , and for the ones that still remain in India can boost there first right on India's resources as was once said by our own PM Piece? Either your spellings are horrible or you have a poor sense of humor. Take your pick :P By religion of peace, I assume you mean Islam. If you think that non Kashmiri muslims in India wouldn't vote for a party because they scrapped article 370, you are completely wrong. COMPLETELY WRONG. You seem to be an expert on all things Muslim, and have these ready generalizations. I don't have your insightful intellect and won't generalize on a whole set of people. But I will speak for myself. Who I vote for in my constituency will have nothing whatsoever to do with article 370. If anything, I may actually vote for someone who scrapped #370. And I'm a Muslim.
arun81 Posted January 28, 2011 Posted January 28, 2011 Javier, But i wonder why Christians are blindly supporting Rahul Gandhi and his Coterie...Go to say facebook and see who are defending the actions of Rahul/Sonia...My best friends from childhood has been Christians ..but these days because of the Missionary activites and blind support of Rahul/Sonia i'm getting disillusioned..Is it because Sonia is Roman Catholic ?
rahulrulezz Posted January 28, 2011 Posted January 28, 2011 Have you ever met a Pandit and heard his story ? You make plenty of PC statements without ever backing it up with an iota of fact in-order to stand by your Green brothers but never once have I seen you question ( correct me if wrong) what happened to the Pandits and how they got evicted. Why is that ? Like what ethnic cleansing ? I totally agree Bossbhai that kicking pandits out of Kashmir was totally pathetic...and it actually pisses me off when I see any Kashmiri sayin anything bad about Indian government... but you have to see other side as welll... I have heard horrific stories from some Kashmiri friends.. imagine some kills a solo son/father of the family..what do think the rest of family do... Take revenge right... Kashmir is the biggest puzzle and I dont think there is any solution to it... on the other note... Bheem bhai.. aap bataiye... in one paragraph the solution to Kashmir.. cuz its easy to criticize Kashmiris, indian government, Hindus, muslims... but tell me how to fix it
Mariyam Posted January 28, 2011 Posted January 28, 2011 BossBhai, you are right. We vile 'green bozos' want to take over the whole wide world. Every action of ours is a conspiracy to take over the world. In fact, when we 'green bozos' take over India, I'm going to be running the show. Every on will bow to Sultana Mariyam. ****evil laugh**** ***** more evil laugh********* With deference to your exceptional propaganda skills and tireless essay writing abilities, I am willing to over look the fact that you are a mere Kaffir and will not only spare your life, but also offer you a post in my ministry of misinformation and history revision. Please confirm your interest.
The Outsider Posted January 28, 2011 Posted January 28, 2011 Once you fix this everything else will automatically get resolved. Chhaap do bhaiyon! The solution to Kashmir and all problems of the world has been achieved! The Babri verdict was also supposed to have caused large scale violence. I think the country has moved on from the 90s culture and is more practical. Yes, the flag hoisting will not solve the Kashmir crisis, but it will atleast show the intent of India's Iron Hand towards the separatists who is taking this issue as an indication of India's weak underbelly. Hopefully after reading the above posts from the likes of Javier, arun, and BB my point about people not having enough sense to differentiate between separatists and the ordinary Muslim would have been clarified. These are educated people able to use a computer. Are you willing to put at risk the lives of your countrymen when this is the level of irrational hatred a certain section of our society has, just to hoist a flag? My definition of patriotism differs from yours if that is the case.
arun81 Posted January 28, 2011 Posted January 28, 2011 Outsider, Noone is Generalising all the Muslims...But my Question why do you guys put Political interests over National Interests....? The Middle Class and the Educated segment of Muslims in India is low. The people we are talking are the Mullah types and the 72 Wanters types..... But have come to the realisation, the Muslims are not the danger to India...But Christians are...Their media cleverly plays Hindu vs Muslims while continuting their subvert Missionaries activites... Infact the Religion of Piece is another religion which has killed more people in 2 world wars, 1 nuclear war and countless genocides in the name of Religion
seedhi Posted January 28, 2011 Posted January 28, 2011 BossBhai, you are right. We vile 'green bozos' want to take over the whole wide world. Every action of ours is a conspiracy to take over the world. In fact, when we 'green bozos' take over India, I'm going to be running the show. Every on will bow to Sultana Mariyam. ****evil laugh**** ***** more evil laugh********* With deference to your exceptional propaganda skills and tireless essay writing abilities, I am willing to over look the fact that you are a mere Kaffir and will not only spare your life, but also offer you a post in my ministry of misinformation and history revision. Please confirm your interest.When in minority (as in India, USA etc) laud secularism, tolerance etc. When in majority (as in pakistan, in the valley in Kashmir) oppress minorities, deny them basic rights, treat them as second class citizens. Dont expect others to remain blind to the basic philosophy behind this duplicity: what is mine is mine, what is yours is negotiable.
kumble_rocks Posted January 28, 2011 Posted January 28, 2011 My observation is Upper caste hindus have for long dominated this message board . And generally speaking , their thought process is eerily similar . Move to USA for the greens(the irony) , provide tacit support BJP , VHP , RSS and other upper caste organisation while sitting in their comfortable ivory towers abroad and indulge in blatant fake jingoism. Guys like BB have a fetish for Kashmiri Pandits (Brahmins) , but will never spare a thought for the plight of dalits and other infringed subjects. And yes , these subjects were and are the victims of the ideology called Hinduism. It's a fact that the socio econmonic status of average dalit is far worse than any other caste , reservation or no reservation. We need to refrain from demonising muslims alone. Sure , kashmir policies are totally messed up , and a Pakistan according to me is an ilegitimate state . We need to scrap 370 and relocate all KP's ( and other hindus as well ) back to the valley . But the suggestion by posters like BB that Indian muslims by and large have divided loyalties is absurd. Having said that , muslims in certain countries are becoming more and more radical and that is a disturbing trend.
The Outsider Posted January 28, 2011 Posted January 28, 2011 Outsider, Noone is Generalising all the Muslims... LOL! No one is generalizing? I must have been reading some other thread where claims about 'Green Bozos', Abrahamic religions in India being anti Hindu, 500 million desert bandits, and sarcastically referring to 'Religion of Peace' has been going on.
rahulrulezz Posted January 28, 2011 Posted January 28, 2011 A part of the solution lies in the mindset and thinking that goes behind the sort of statements that you made in the previous post while being perfectly aware of what happened to Pandits. How did you become soo politically correct and utterly pseudo-secular ? I mean you ( and your lot ) even shy about talking these things in open. This is the problem. Once you fix this everything else will automatically get resolved. There is a saying in Kannada which goes along the lines of "if they see a soft one they will try to grind him using just their elbows instead of investing in a grinder". You are the soft one. Utterly and totally. There are millions like you. And naturally the state policies are super soft and perfectly mirror the population at large. To make matters worse we have a funny sense of right and wrong. For example your last post ... why are you worried about the Indian Govts supposedly brutal action when you know that the green bozos enacted one of the worst ethnic cleansing ? Shouldn't you be worried more about those that got evicted ? Outsider, Gunner and Shane bhailog... You guys are reading this na.. See there are people who think I am not a violent guy... Now comin to your reply, seriously what are you talking about..You want me to change my mentality and start labeling muslims as exteremists... bhai, if there is what u suggest, then I am happy you are not living in India... tell me how will it help if we start to hate each other...going by ur mentality its almost like saying, all goras in america and canada should start generalizing all brown folks as terrorists...it wont help anyone... bossbhai... u still didnt answer me... so your solution to Kashmir problem is to start hating Muslims.. I hope thats not what u are suggesting!
Manny_Pacquiao Posted January 28, 2011 Posted January 28, 2011 Ahhh Pakistan. Good. So how did Pakistan come about in the first place ? Did the Iranian/Afghan ( The 2 green countries that were bordering the then India ) indulge in terrorist infiltration and sponsor seperatist movements circa 1947 ? No. It was a brainchild of citizens who were "Indians" at that time. So what makes you think that it wont repeat again ? Infact have you been to Muslim dominated pockets of Southern India recently or followed their activities ? Recently there was a thread here about a org called Popular Front( predictably that thread got shot down lol )... Does Pakistan fund this organization also ? Does SIMI operate only in areas adjoining Pak ? How long is this hand in sand attitute going to continue ? And as far as your comment that "Ideology hasnt got anything to do with it" ... have a look at these and tell me what you think. http://indiancricketfans.com/showpost.php?p=467552&postcount=53 i dont see what this has to do with anything in the context of modern day kashmir. if u wanna talk about the origins of paki land, we can do that but it doesnt xplain india's problems in managing kashmir in modern times in any case, it seems to me that u think every single muslim in india is a closet paki. i find that line of thought really disturbing, not to mention quite inaccurate. if that really was the case then we wouldnt have 200 mil of them in our country. why did they stay back? because they couldnt afford the railroad tickets? come on... if u think paki land doesnt have a hand in terrorism within india, u are only kidding yourself. groups like SIMI are chump change, they have no funding, no organization, no backing and cant do ****. not much different from the naxals or any other tiny separatist movements in other parts of the country (xcept kashmir, which is different cos of its geographical location). if u consider SIMI a threat to india and widely representative of popular opinion, than i can only laugh at u for being overly paranoid about nothing
asterix Posted January 28, 2011 Posted January 28, 2011 Simple questions: Can Hindu/Christian equivalents of Groups lead by Madani or Popular front etc exist and survive in a Islamic country? What protection minorities get in Islamic nations? The State needs to be in control and fair in approach in India. There shouldn't be any appeasement. India needs more Secular and progressive thinking Islamic leaders. Look what happened to new Deoband chief, Vastanvi for praising the developement of Gujarat. He was almost forced to resign and his fate now hangs in balance. The more progressive muslim community leaders come in the fore, the better will be the future of India..
kumble_rocks Posted January 28, 2011 Posted January 28, 2011 My observation is that utterly gutless psec bozos have dominated this message board who think it is utterly fashionable to sing praises of a barbarian like Tippu and hurl one tired PC cliche after other and run away with their tails firmly inbetween their legs once I start chasing them around one-by-one one thread at a time. I attribute this post to the rants of a juvenile delinquent ! Has it occurred to you that posters don't debate you simply because your rants tend be circular . Just in the other thread , you were ranting about Prophet splitting moon and the sheer stupidity of such a claim(which I happen to agree ) completely ignoring equally ridiculous claims by Hindus that Lord Krishna at a tender age was able to lift mountains, etc . Let me get one thing straight to you, buster , you are nothing but google ninja with ample amount of time in your hand . May I suggest you get some life ! And for the records , just to prove your rants are indeed circular , I am taking the liberty of listing the usual cliches that you tend to use(from the top of my head) in your 8000 odd posts in Chit Chat section - :--D 1. Tipu is barbarian 2. 1 % wonly 3. ROPers 4. Prophet and Moon Splitting 5. Head in the sand 6. Mindless liberalism 7. Plight of Kashmiri Pandits 8. Draconian Sharia 9. Gandhi sucks and so on may I suggest , you post one blog which captures all your rants instead of piece meal approach !:--D
varun Posted January 28, 2011 Posted January 28, 2011 My observation is that utterly gutless psec bozos have dominated this message board who think it is utterly fashionable to sing praises of a barbarian like Tippu and hurl one tired PC cliche after other and run away with their tails firmly inbetween their legs once I start chasing them around one-by-one one thread at a time. mera jawab bhi de do ab
someone Posted January 29, 2011 Posted January 29, 2011 This question has and will always in India and there will tons divided. For one half, it is the "sympathy" for the muslims living in majority hindu India where these muslims have no rights and no wants perceived according to the media(both india +western). For them, they are quick to react and make it a "issue". But have anyone ever considered, what are their wants? They muslims say too many army to Kashmir. So what about if by chance, we totally reduce it. Will it change their feelings and end this issue?. No chance, as their will be "new" issues, and forget the increase threat to other part of India through more infration from Pakistan due to lack of military presense. The army is for them and every indians, making them have save days and nights. Have they muslims ever asked for more army as I see there are attacks frequently in Kashmir. Never, so there concern is definately not about safety but something more. This is the larger picture. They are not looking to go to Pakistan but rather they want an Islamic state as they are in majority in Kashmir. They want sharia law and a complete oppression of other religion( Remember the conficts regardiing Amarnath). They want control of Kashmir accordingly to themselves. So once again, there are certain things clear, this is a religion issue, anyone saying something else, is completely living in denial. Next, this is problem which is already starting in other parts of India. And it is a global issue. See the russia terror attacks, again Islamic fundamentalists. Everyone is affected and there is no solution to finish this issue. The only way to reduce it is by having a non-negoiate attitude towards these "terrosists". The day you start to negogiate with these terrosists, it is the end and start of a era of more conflicts.
Clarke Posted January 29, 2011 Posted January 29, 2011 Can't blame the moderators if the posters cannot abide with forum rules and policies. Apparently' date=' even an old man paying for the marriage of a few people is part of a global Islamic conspiracy to take over the world.[/quote'] Seems we're loosing the plot and back to square one as usual. It was about flag hoisting @ Lal chowk, not the history of Kashmir or extremism in the subcontinent. So many threads just seem to go the same route here. I'm not for setting the agenda for discussion but this is hardly constructive. How is it that there are no bans here for breaking rules ?
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