Prakat Posted May 26, 2012 Posted May 26, 2012 That is just one view - need not be the only truth. In my view - as long as there is some form of force, which can be (unfairly) used to manipulate for selfish goals of select few - it needs to be controlled. ( Notice that I did not say elimination). There is no evidence of 'fear' of any power in the abstraction I have presented. But you surely are choosing to be ignorant about existence of other types of forces, than just physical ones. Besides, it is arrogant to say that, as a civilization, you/we know everything we needed to know about all types of powers and their effects/place in civilized society. That I'm afraid is the basis of civilization, you trying to sweep away that by claiming it to be one of many truths is disingenuous. Without the elimination of physical force, there would be no private property but that which belongs to the man with the biggest army, there would be no marriages because women could be used for sex by anyone who could pin them down. And children would hardly survive in the world because they would either be raped, murdered or sold in to slavery to work to death. The fact that you are indulging in such abstractions is enough evidence of your fear. Are you seriously trying to understand your life in terms of mathematically valid arguments? All other forms of force and coercion are valid simply because one can negate it just with your mind. You must have heard about sociopaths/psychopaths...phrases like 'power of mind'.... effects/power of stuff like these are only beginning to unravel ...(modern psychology)... so its too early to say that it is only 'physical forces' that needs to be moderated - for healthy civilization. P.S. One wouldn't expect a caveman to know much about psychology either. And women are the holders of this magical, secret, dark power right? When's the witch-hunt? That's also sign of power abuse/arrogance :P. It is supposed to be fun for everyone - in a civilized society. I wouldn't want to take the ad-hominem track that you have started and not willing to leave. For now - from mathematical standpoint - I am able to see and talk about existence and effects of more types of forces, than you are (only physical forces have real world effects, and only those can be abused!!)...so, guess who needs to wake up to larger set of possibilities and knowledge-base. It has always been fun for the women, I'm saying it is just as much fun for men. :D And you did take the ad-hominem track very well in your previous posts. Don't beat yourself up about it. :haha: And as for who needs to wake up to a larger 'set' of possibilities and knowledge-based - nope, still you, buddy.
1983-2011 Posted May 27, 2012 Posted May 27, 2012 Mao Sugiyama Cooks, Serves Own Genitals At Banquet In Tokyo This chef's got balls. Mao Sugiyama, a self-described "asexual" from Tokyo, cooked up, seasoned and served his own genitalia to five diners at a swanky banquet in Japan last month, Calorie Lab reported. In most cases, "asexual" is a word used to describe a person who is non-sexual. Sugiyama, however, embraces it as a way to show that he does not affiliate with either gender. Sugiyama sparked a firestorm of interest on April 8 with one tweet: "[Please retweet] I am offering my male genitals (full penis, testes, scrotum) as a meal for 100,000 yen ©¸ill prepare and cook as the buyer requests, at his chosen location." Just days after Sugiyama's 22nd birthday, the artist underwent elective genital-removal surgery, divvied up the severed penis shaft, testicles, and scrotal skin between five people, and garnished it with button mushrooms and Italian parsley. On April 13, five of six diners who signed up for the $250-a-plate feast, sat down to dinner. The sixth person was a no-show. The next day, an organizer posted a blog -- subsequently deleted -- containing pictures of the event. Images showed dozens of people who attended the event just to catch a glimpse of the rare treat. The extra diners were served crocodile-based dishes while Sugiyama cooked up the exclusive meal. The story went viral in Japan. Some showed even more interest, while others complained. But Calorie Lab called Japanese authorities, who deemed the banquet legal because there is no law against cannibalism in the country. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/24/asexual-mao-sugiyama-cooks-serves-own-genitals_n_1543307.html GRAPHIC PHOTOS OF THE MEAL (Click At Your Own Risk) on the above link
Crookbond Posted May 27, 2012 Posted May 27, 2012 Woman raped by Army captain who trawled bars for victims was so scared he would return she slept in bathroom for a year Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2150399/Woman-attacked-serial-rapist-Army-captain-scared-return-slept-bathroom.html
KhanSaab Posted May 27, 2012 Posted May 27, 2012 I had two friends, a girl and a boy. The boy proposed and the girl did not say either no or yes. She kept it hanging giving him hope from time to time. The boy drove her to college everyday, drover her back, paid for her lunch, paid for her movies and other stuff all the time in the hopes that she would say yes. The girl in the mean time would smile at him, blush, rest her head on his shoulders and whisper sweet nothings. A few months later it turned out she had a boy friend of six years, who was a bum. The girl just needed someone to pay for her stuff. Your scruples are misplaced. The ultimate manipulator in your story is the bum.
ravishingravi Posted May 28, 2012 Posted May 28, 2012 6 sentenced to death for dancing at wedding in Pakistan http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/pakistan/6-sentenced-to-death -for-singing-dancing-at-wedding-Pakistan-police/articleshow/13599853.c ms ISLAMABAD: Four women and two men have been sentenced to death in northern Pakistan for singing and dancing at a wedding, police said on Monday. Clerics issued a decree after a mobile phone video emerged of the six enjoying themselves in a remote village in the mountainous district of Kohistan, 176 kilometres (109 miles) north of the capital Islamabad. Pakistani authorities in the area said local clerics had ordered the punishment over allegations that the men and women danced and sang together in Gada village, in defiance of strict tribal customs that separate men and women at weddings. "The local clerics issued a decree to kill all four women and two men shown in the video," district police officer Abdul Majeed Afridi told AFP. "It was decided that the men will be killed first, but they ran away so the women are safe for the moment. I have sent a team to rescue them and am waiting to hear some news," he said, adding that the women had been confined to their homes. Afridi said the events stemmed from a dispute between two tribes and that there was no evidence the men and women had been intermingling. "All of them were shown separately in the video. I've seen the video taken on a cell phone myself, it shows four women singing and a man dancing in separate scenes and then another man sitting in a separate shot," he said. "This is tribal enmity. The video has been engineered to defame the tribe," he added. The Human Rights Commission of Pakistan said at least 943 women and girls were murdered last year for allegedly defaming their family's honour. The statistics highlight the scale of violence suffered by many women in conservative Muslim Pakistan, where they are frequently treated as second-rated.
Old guy Posted May 28, 2012 Posted May 28, 2012 :WTF: +1 :| how can they even think of killing like tht even after it came in neews :omg:
velu Posted May 28, 2012 Posted May 28, 2012 "It was decided that the men will be killed first, but they ran away so the women are safe for the moment. I have sent a team to rescue them and am waiting to hear some news," he said, adding that the women had been confined to their homes." :WTF: * :WTF:
suraj Posted May 28, 2012 Posted May 28, 2012 Seriously man- there is so much disparity in the world; on one hand there're countries and cultures whee anything goes from one-night stands, casual sex & dating, lesbian experiences, orgies etc and still the doers are not only accepted but many times end up having normal family and societal life (present valued more than past) and on the other hand people get killed for dancing together. Not only the story but really this world WTF!!!
CSK Fan Posted May 29, 2012 Posted May 29, 2012 I sort of agree. Women are known to use their charm, power of seduction and manipulative habits to get men into their power and get them to do what they want. Men have no advantage over women in those areas. I had two friends, a girl and a boy. The boy proposed and the girl did not say either no or yes. She kept it hanging giving him hope from time to time. The boy drove her to college everyday, drover her back, paid for her lunch, paid for her movies and other stuff all the time in the hopes that she would say yes. The girl in the mean time would smile at him, blush, rest her head on his shoulders and whisper sweet nothings. A few months later it turned out she had a boy friend of six years, who was a bum. The girl just needed someone to pay for her stuff. The result: the girl got two tight slaps in front of many people. Police came in and the boy was seen as a villain who had done something terribly wrong. I have seen numerous instances of men using same emotional tactics to get a woman to sleep with him and leave. In fact a woman is much more vulnerable to seduction and emotional blackmail so what you are claiming (that men are more vulnerable) is completely false
Crookbond Posted May 29, 2012 Posted May 29, 2012 I don't understand when arguments get very fundamentalist. Why should it be - either/or? Men may use emotional tactics - true, so can a woman use it. If you want to know who does it more often, we need to use a proper statistical test to reach a definite conclusion else it's one person's word against the other.
ravishingravi Posted May 29, 2012 Posted May 29, 2012 I have seen numerous instances of men using same emotional tactics to get a woman to sleep with him and leave. In fact a woman is much more vulnerable to seduction and emotional blackmail so what you are claiming (that men are more vulnerable) is completely false I am waiting for the backup for this particular observation if there is any. I dont see how one can generalize emotional blackmailing with either of the sexes.
1983-2011 Posted May 29, 2012 Posted May 29, 2012 Zombie like attack in Miami A Miami man was shot and killed on Saturday after he was caught eating the face of another man. Citing police sources, the Boston Herald is reporting that a roadside-assistance truck driver saw a naked man eating another man's face before he tried to get him to back off via an announcement from his loudspeaker. An additional witness also saw the incident and flagged down a police officer. The unidentified officer reportedly approached the man while he was eating his victim's face and ordered him to stop what he was doing. After the naked man did not obey the command, the officer shot and killed him. Surveillance video taken from security cameras at the nearby Miami Herald building show a police officer arrive on the scene, appear to be startled by the spectacle of two naked men lying on the street, and draw his service weapon. Armando Aguilar, who heads the local chapter of the Fraternal Order of Police, told the Miami Herald that he has spoken with the officer who responded. Aguilar said the officer saw what the man was doing, and ordered him to stop. He said the man growled at the officer, and then continued eating the man's face Aguilar added that the man ate his victim's nose and eyeballs. The victim was transported to the hospital with critical injuries, according to the Miami Herald. Javier Ortiz, spokesman for Miami's Fraternal Order of Police, said the officer who fired the fatal shots was "a hero," according to a text-messaged statement. "Based on the information provided, our Miami police officer is a hero and saved a life," he said. Sgt. Altarr Williams, supervisor of the Miami police's homicide unit, said a man doesn't have to be armed to be dangerous. "There are other ways to injure people," Williams said. "Some people know martial arts, others are very strong and can kill you with their hands." Investigators believe the victim may have been homeless and was on the ground when the crazed man ate his face. http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/346139/20120528/miami-man-eating-face-nose-eyeballs.htm it sounds like a horrific attack but why did the police shoot him, they could have easily handcuffed him as he was unarmed. they could have got more out of by arresting him than shooting him.
Stuge Posted May 31, 2012 Posted May 31, 2012 A young cooked his penis and his guests paid $ 250 to eat them http://m24digital.com/en/2012/05/25/a-young-cooked-his-penis-and-his-guests-paid-250-to-eat-them/ seems fake ,but with Japanese and Chinese you never know.
DomainK Posted May 31, 2012 Posted May 31, 2012 I have seen numerous instances of men using same emotional tactics to get a woman to sleep with him and leave. In fact a woman is much more vulnerable to seduction and emotional blackmail so what you are claiming (that men are more vulnerable) is completely false Absolutely, men also do manipulate women. That was just one story. The point I was making was that it's absurd to say that one sex is dominant on another. Both sexes have their own ways of dominating.
CSK Fan Posted May 31, 2012 Posted May 31, 2012 Absolutely' date=' men also do manipulate women. That was just one story. The point I was making was that it's absurd to say that one sex is dominant on another. Both sexes have their own ways of dominating.[/quote'] Lets see, you agree men and women are equally good at manipulating each other so thats equal. On the other hand, men have been dominating women for centuries by physical force. They have set up customs in which women were not allwed outside of hiuse, had to be always covered, etc etc. Women are still killed at birth, married off when they are young, arent allowed to have a career and killed in the name of honor Yet despite all that, somehow you stick to the belief that men and women are equally dominating? This argument sounds very much like the neo-nazis or other such groups. Blacks have been oppressed for ages in the worst possible manner and now if the goverment has couple of laws against racism and sometimes people are overally politically correct, the neo-nazis suddenly claim reverse-racism. Similalry dalits and untouchables have been opressed in the worst possible way but if we have reservations at jobs, upper caste people who had everything in life suddenly claim opression. women have it worst in our country in every possible way, but let one women dump someone for being a loser, suddenly men have it equally bad as women. Dude its not even on the same scale! BTW, have you ever noticed when a person adds weight to a balancing scale? You can never get both sides equal at the first or second try. If one side is heavy, you add weight to the other side. Most time, the other side will get slighly heavier. It takes multiple tries to get both sides to be equal. Think of all these things, equality of races, men vs women, etc as a similar excercise. One side has been heavy for centuries. When you try to balance it sometimes it will feel as the other side is getting heavier because of the effort at improving their kind. But its needed for the balance of the scale to be achieved
akshayxyz Posted May 31, 2012 Posted May 31, 2012 Lets see, you agree men and women are equally good at manipulating each other so thats equal. On the other hand, men have been dominating women for centuries by physical force. They have set up customs in which women were not allwed outside of hiuse, had to be always covered, etc etc. Women are still killed at birth, married off when they are young, arent allowed to have a career and killed in the name of honor Yet despite all that, somehow you stick to the belief that men and women are equally dominating? This argument sounds very much like the neo-nazis or other such groups. Blacks have been oppressed for ages in the worst possible manner and now if the goverment has couple of laws against racism and sometimes people are overally politically correct, the neo-nazis suddenly claim reverse-racism. Similalry dalits and untouchables have been opressed in the worst possible way but if we have reservations at jobs, upper caste people who had everything in life suddenly claim opression. women have it worst in our country in every possible way, but let one women dump someone for being a loser, suddenly men have it equally bad as women. Dude its not even on the same scale! BTW, have you ever noticed when a person adds weight to a balancing scale? You can never get both sides equal at the first or second try. If one side is heavy, you add weight to the other side. Most time, the other side will get slighly heavier. It takes multiple tries to get both sides to be equal. Think of all these things, equality of races, men vs women, etc as a similar excercise. One side has been heavy for centuries. When you try to balance it sometimes it will feel as the other side is getting heavier because of the effort at improving their kind. But its needed for the balance of the scale to be achieved well put.
Crookbond Posted May 31, 2012 Posted May 31, 2012 BTW, have you ever noticed when a person adds weight to a balancing scale? You can never get both sides equal at the first or second try. If one side is heavy, you add weight to the other side. Most time, the other side will get slighly heavier. It takes multiple tries to get both sides to be equal. Think of all these things, equality of races, men vs women, etc as a similar excercise. One side has been heavy for centuries. When you try to balance it sometimes it will feel as the other side is getting heavier because of the effort at improving their kind. But its needed for the balance of the scale to be achieved I should try this as an explanation. Nice post. :nice:
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