Sachinism Posted March 7, 2011 Author Posted March 7, 2011 So Manny according to you Indias tactics are to get Bhaji to contain the batsmen and then use part timers to buy wickets?
NareshK Posted March 7, 2011 Posted March 7, 2011 I dont think its that simple at all. Going under 6 an over can be valuabuale even for a specialist Bowler if playing on a pitch were the par score is 320+. IMO a bowler should either contain or take wickets. The difference is the par score on the pitch was not 320+. All the spinners got turn, Yuvraj picked up 5 wickets and Indian batsmen couldnt play their shots freely. Bhajji has been containing and who knows maybe if the likes of sreesanth and chawla weren't leaking so many runs he would have some more wickets to his name as well because it would force the opposition to take more risks against him. Then what's the difference between Bhajji and Yusuf Pathan ? If he is a strike bowler, he should have bowled an attacking line and length. He was more than happy just to concede singles, drifting down to the leg stump most of the time. The Irish batsmen couldnt take advantage of it because they are not good enough and also were trying to build a partnership. Batsmen from other teams would be far less forgiving.
vvvslaxman Posted March 7, 2011 Posted March 7, 2011 So Manny according to you Indias tactics are to get Bhaji to contain the batsmen and then use part timers to buy wickets? Yuvraj singh is our main bowler. Even in the last match against SA chawla and bhajji bowled 15 overs took no wickets. Yuvi took 2 wickets in 7 overs.
singhprakash72 Posted March 7, 2011 Posted March 7, 2011 I think he has completely forgotten that he is supposed to be strike Bowler for Team India ...instead we are now left with only Zak as our Strike Bowler...the Job he did in last match can be done by any Pie chucker like Yuvi (did better) or Raina ?..the other big issue with India team is its very defensive in mind set...any new batsman is greeted with Spread field like in England match ...No9 or 10 had no attacking fielders in circle !!
yoda Posted March 7, 2011 Posted March 7, 2011 Regarding the OP, you can't drop your premier spinner in the middle of the WC from the playing XI. That's like SL dropping Murali. His experience will come through when we need it, I hope. The question now is regarding the second spinner.
singhprakash72 Posted March 7, 2011 Posted March 7, 2011 Harbhajan can take wickets provided he alters his trajectory. WELL THAT IS YET TO HAPPEN IN TESTS...IN ODI HE IS CONTENT WITH FLAT TRAJECTORY TO STOP RUNS...IT IS MORE TO DO WITH HIS DECLINE IN LAST 3 YEARS ...HE HAS RESIGNED TO FACT THAT IF BATSMAN MAKE MISTAKE HE WILL GET THEM INSTEAD OF OPPOSITE....HE IS LUCKY TO BE IN A ERA WERE NO GENUINE INDIAN SPINNER IS EMERGING..(THE CHAWLAs,OHJAs, PAWARs,ASHWINs are showing promise but not a threat to him)
Silva Posted March 7, 2011 Posted March 7, 2011 The difference is the par score on the pitch was not 320+. All the spinners got turn, Yuvraj picked up 5 wickets and Indian batsmen couldnt play their shots freely. Then what's the difference between Bhajji and Yusuf Pathan ? If he is a strike bowler, he should have bowled an attacking line and length. He was more than happy just to concede singles, drifting down to the leg stump most of the time. The Irish batsmen couldnt take advantage of it because they are not good enough and also were trying to build a partnership. Batsmen from other teams would be far less forgiving. Bajji can consistantly bowl 10 overs without getting hit out of the attack much more often than Yuvi or Pathan. And your ignoring the fact that the first two pitches where very flat and him containing the batsman did help India alot. This pitch wasn't flat and didn't bowl well but he still didn't go for runs and he did put pressure on the Irish which is probably why they played so many loose shots against Yuvi.
vvvslaxman Posted March 7, 2011 Posted March 7, 2011 Regarding the OP, you can't drop your premier spinner in the middle of the WC from the playing XI. That's like SL dropping Murali. His experience will come through when we need it, I hope. The question now is regarding the second spinner. He won't be dropped. But criticism will be there. In the last 2 years among our main spinners Bhajji has the worst strike rate which is 46 plus apart from Chawla whose strike rate is 75 and Jaddu 51. Ashwin has the best strike rate which is 28. Yuvi has a strike rate of 44. It tells the tale. Dhoni always has liking towards containing bowlers more than wicket taking bowlers.
ViruRulez Posted March 7, 2011 Posted March 7, 2011 In the world cup. Maybe yes but in the future maybe no.
Ranjha Posted March 8, 2011 Posted March 8, 2011 Lol at dropping Bhajji. Bhajji will be instrumental in winning big matches in this worldcup.....Mark my words. Stupid thread.
BERGKAMP Posted March 8, 2011 Posted March 8, 2011 I think Dartbhajan needs to find a new sport - here is a suggestion
zen Posted March 9, 2011 Posted March 9, 2011 So far against Ned: Harbhajan Singh 6-0-15 -0-2.50 The Wkts column is embarrassing .... esp w/ Ned 5 down
Switchblade Posted March 9, 2011 Posted March 9, 2011 Have To Be honest Here That His Performance in ICC CHAMPIONS TROPHY THEN ICC T20 2010 AND THIS PRESENT TOURNAMENT HAS BEEN VERY POOR
fineleg Posted March 9, 2011 Posted March 9, 2011 Bhajji toothless even against Netherlands :dontknow:
fineleg Posted March 9, 2011 Posted March 9, 2011 Really mind boggling that Bhajji is in horrible form and even minnows tackle him! Darting the balls
Switchblade Posted March 9, 2011 Posted March 9, 2011 Harbhajan Singh 10 0 31 0 3.10 even against minnows he goes wicketless
CSK Fan Posted March 9, 2011 Posted March 9, 2011 This guy, along with Zaheer, is supposed to be our spearhead and most experienced bowler. He has been a big let down. If the opposition teams dont lose wickets, they can pick up their run-rate at any time in the death overs. This has been proved in the last match. the only way to restrict teams is by picking up wickets
asterix Posted March 9, 2011 Posted March 9, 2011 He's bowling the wrong line and round the wicket..Negative bowling will occasionally get him wickets..To be honest he's not a strike bowler anymore. He is just staying in the team based on his hype, past records and good connections..
BERGKAMP Posted March 9, 2011 Posted March 9, 2011 please replace this joker with ashwin or the 3rd seamer for the remaining games.
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