England tour of India - Oct 14 - Oct 29, 2011

[Trichromatic]

Does anyone know about the fitness of Sehwag, Yuvraj and Sharma? Gambhir and Dartby will be back while Zaheer is out till December.

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[Late Cut]

I want revenge.we should prepare absolute turners.pick three spinners and white wash these guys and bring them back to earth' date='no apologies.[/quote'] Heh. Best of luck with this theory. England has better spinners than we do.

[rkt.india]

After the 2001 tour of SA, when the next series was played vs England, we had got in rookies in Siddiquie and Yohanan. Will have to do something similar. But instead what they will do is to go back to Nehra, Sreesanth etc. Better bring back Agarkar :((

Yaa...they are only trying tried and tested failures. Some times I wonder, all these selectors who ex-cricketer themselves, how cannot they judge a player based on his potential if he can be an international level cricketer or can have any impact at international level. Srikanth and company should have identified those players by now in 3 years especially pacers and they should have been brought under one roof every year at NCA for a camp in off season at least for 1-2 months in June and July for fitness improvement and bowling refinement purposes in the guidance of best coaches. There is not need to have a bowling coach in national team, IMO, because Indian team is always playing and he does not get any time to work with those bowlers who are playing. Instead, he needs to work with upcoming pacers at NCA. Dont know who will be the pacers against England in ODIs. Don't think Aaron will be selected. Ishant is injured. PK is doubtful and ineffective on Indian pitches. Then we have Vinay Kooooomar and Munna. Munna too is doubtful right now. The Nehra and Sreesanth. Selection of Nehra is certainly again going back kind of situation. Then there is RP Singh. What new bowlers we have then in FC. Pankaj Singh...they may call back him. Ashok Dinda..He will certainly do better than many but does not have the potential to become an international bowler. who else now? Dhawal Kulkarni--inexp Sudeep Tyagi---inexp Varun Aaron---inexp Umesh Yadav--inexp Shrikant Wagh--inexp Jaydev Unadkat--inexp Abu Nechim Ahemd--inexp Abhimanyu Mithun--inexp Rahul Shukla--unknown quantity Pawan Suyal--unknown quantity Mohammad Shami Ahmed--unknown quantity Deepak Chahar--inexp and unknown quantity Special mention for this last set of bowlers who can be considered as potential bowlers and must be refined and groomed through long off season camps as well as India A tours. If we can develop 3-4 bowlers into good international bowlers out of these 12 that will be good for the team. But I have found the selectors and captain Dhoni is not much interested in finding and grooming new pacers. He still talks about old ones like Nehra and Zak. He needs to understand they will not play forever and he must try to get bets of the new upcoming pacers, but he is very reluctant in giving new guys chance. I have felt that since he has been the captain and if they get any chance, they are again left out after 2-3 ODIs on flat pitches or left out without playing a game.

[fineleg]

But I have found the selectors and captain Dhoni is not much interested in finding and grooming new pacers. He still talks about old ones like Nehra and Zak.

You need a visionary captain. M$D is hardly visionary.

[rkt.india]

You need a visionary captain. M is hardly visionary.

Problem is there is too much importance on batting, but its the bowling which makes a winning team.

[vishalvirsingh]

Fine leg...u r right u have sexy fine legs and a good brain too

[speed_demon]

We were low on confidence in England: Ashwin Back from a disastrous tour of England, off--spinner Ravichandran Ashwin said that the Test series loss had left the Indian team low in confidence, but the side still "fought to win every match even more than it had during the World Cup." "To be frank, the confidence level was low. But I can say that the team fought to win every match even more than it had during the World Cup. Everybody competed fiercely," said Ashwin. "But more than the England players, we had to compete with a lot of other factors, such as rain, the wicket.. the outfield became very wet after the rains." "We were very confident of taking them on, but certain things didn't go our way. Let's just say luck didn't work in our favour," he added. Ashwin admitted that the Indian team has been playing a lot of cricket, but said that as professionals, it is the responsibility of the players to manage the workload. "I joined the Indian team only from the ODI series, so I've been away for about 45 days. I don't think there is much point in discussing the fatigue factor. We're all professional cricketers, so we can't really complain." "Definitely a lot of cricket is being played, but it's part and parcel of the game. If you give me a month off, there's no guarantee that I won't get injured in that time span. So, it's completely about how you look after yourself, how you manage yourself," he said. Ashwin was disappointed with the reactions of the Indian fans, who have been flaying the team for the disastrous performance in England. "I'm very disappointed at the way the public has been reacting to the situation. For one, the team that won the World Cup cannot be a bad team. Nobody goes to work and comes out successful everyday. You can't turn up everyday and be successful everyday. The public have to empathise with the players, put themselves in their shoes," said the off--spinner. Ashwin, who will be representing Chennai Super Kings in the Champions League starting on Friday, said he always changes his action a bit to adjust to the three versions of the game. "I tweak my action a little bit whenever I play in an ODI or T20. Last year, after the Champions League T20, I played an Irani Trophy match, so I changed my action a bit." "It is easier if it is a Test match or a four--day game because you get more time. But T20 is a quick format, It's massively different from ODIs. I don't know how many will agree with me but I think it is a big change as in T20 you get only 24 balls (for a complete spell), whereas in ODIs you get 60 balls." Asked about who he considers CSK's main competitors in the upcoming tournament, Ashwin said they can't take any team lightly. "There are a lot of new teams this time around. No team from Australia can be taken lightly. All teams are tough." One of the best spin talents, Ashwin is yet to play a Test, but with senior off--spinner Harbhajan Singh now struggling, it might be the right time to draft him in the longest version of the game. However, Ashwin said he is in no hurry and is ready to wait for his chance. "There is a fine line. I can say I want to play Test cricket...anybody would want to, as it's the pinnacle. But he's (Harbhajan) been one of the spearheads of the Indian bowling attacks that has helped the team secure no. 1 status in Tests. And I think it's fair enough to say that we have to get off his back and let him be himself. Whenever my time comes, I'll grab it with both hands," he explained. Ashwin's teammate and one of the key players of the Chennai outfit, Murali Vijay is also excited to play in the Champions League T20, and said his team is very well prepared to handle the pressure of being the defending champions. "We all have pressure but it's about how we handle it. The game is T20 cricket, so obviously there will be lots of runs. But we have a lot of experienced bowlers. They've all played at the highest level for their countries. So they know how to handle such situations. We're confident they will." Vijay also said it is exciting as well as challenging to adjust quickly to the three versions of the game. "It's definitely hard, for example when you head into a Test match right after playing a T20 tournament, you have to change a lot of things, right from your mindset. "But being a professional, you can't pick and choose, you have to adapt. If a guy can play the longest version of the game, he can play all three formats of the game comfortably. It's up to him to maximise it," he said.

[Cricket Tragic]

Back from a disastrous tour of England, off--spinner Ravichandran Ashwin said that the Test series loss had left the Indian team low in confidence, but the side still "fought to win every match even more than it had during the World Cup." "To be frank, the confidence level was low. But I can say that the team fought to win every match even more than it had during the World Cup. Everybody competed fiercely," said Ashwin. "But more than the England players, we had to compete with a lot of other factors, such as rain, the wicket.. the outfield became very wet after the rains." "We were very confident of taking them on, but certain things didn't go our way. Let's just say luck didn't work in our favour," he added. Ashwin admitted that the Indian team has been playing a lot of cricket, but said that as professionals, it is the responsibility of the players to manage the workload. "I joined the Indian team only from the ODI series, so I've been away for about 45 days. I don't think there is much point in discussing the fatigue factor. We're all professional cricketers, so we can't really complain." "Definitely a lot of cricket is being played, but it's part and parcel of the game. If you give me a month off, there's no guarantee that I won't get injured in that time span. So, it's completely about how you look after yourself, how you manage yourself," he said. Ashwin was disappointed with the reactions of the Indian fans, who have been flaying the team for the disastrous performance in England. "I'm very disappointed at the way the public has been reacting to the situation. For one, the team that won the World Cup cannot be a bad team. Nobody goes to work and comes out successful everyday. You can't turn up everyday and be successful everyday. The public have to empathise with the players, put themselves in their shoes," said the off--spinner. Ashwin, who will be representing Chennai Super Kings in the Champions League starting on Friday, said he always changes his action a bit to adjust to the three versions of the game. "I tweak my action a little bit whenever I play in an ODI or T20. Last year, after the Champions League T20, I played an Irani Trophy match, so I changed my action a bit." "It is easier if it is a Test match or a four--day game because you get more time. But T20 is a quick format, It's massively different from ODIs. I don't know how many will agree with me but I think it is a big change as in T20 you get only 24 balls (for a complete spell), whereas in ODIs you get 60 balls." Asked about who he considers CSK's main competitors in the upcoming tournament, Ashwin said they can't take any team lightly. "There are a lot of new teams this time around. No team from Australia can be taken lightly. All teams are tough." One of the best spin talents, Ashwin is yet to play a Test, but with senior off--spinner Harbhajan Singh now struggling, it might be the right time to draft him in the longest version of the game. However, Ashwin said he is in no hurry and is ready to wait for his chance. "There is a fine line. I can say I want to play Test cricket...anybody would want to, as it's the pinnacle. But he's (Harbhajan) been one of the spearheads of the Indian bowling attacks that has helped the team secure no. 1 status in Tests. And I think it's fair enough to say that we have to get off his back and let him be himself. Whenever my time comes, I'll grab it with both hands," he explained. Ashwin's teammate and one of the key players of the Chennai outfit, Murali Vijay is also excited to play in the Champions League T20, and said his team is very well prepared to handle the pressure of being the defending champions. "We all have pressure but it's about how we handle it. The game is T20 cricket, so obviously there will be lots of runs. But we have a lot of experienced bowlers. They've all played at the highest level for their countries. So they know how to handle such situations. We're confident they will." Vijay also said it is exciting as well as challenging to adjust quickly to the three versions of the game. "It's definitely hard, for example when you head into a Test match right after playing a T20 tournament, you have to change a lot of things, right from your mindset. "But being a professional, you can't pick and choose, you have to adapt. If a guy can play the longest version of the game, he can play all three formats of the game comfortably. It's up to him to maximise it," he said.

:hmmmm2:

[Yoda-esque]

^We were confident of taking them on with low confidence

[gaurav92]

:hmmmm2:

[zep1706]

=

Happens a lot. But still rare.

:hysterical::hysterical:

[The Realist]

Doesn't quite make sense with the confidence thing but Ashwin is right when says that regards fatigue & fitness "it's completely about how you look after yourself, how you manage yourself." Unfortunately most of the current team seem to think this is the 80s with very poor levels of fitness and conditioning. In today's world turning up with a pot belly and gasping for breath after bowling 5 overs does not cut it any more. You are not just a cricketer but AN ATHLETE representing your country. Shape up or ship out should be the simple message.

[yoda]

I think he is referring to different stages of the ODI series when making those two statements.

[achilles]

Hope the "low confidence" continues in the elllo jersey. Oh wait :facepalm:

[Sachinism]

Didn't Dhoni help to lift his confidence?

[ganeshran]

Please dont use the word kanphidence :fear:

[J P K]

Please dont use the word kanphidence :fear:

= :hysterical::hysterical:

^We were confident of taking them on with low confidence

:cantstop:

[MUMBAISKIPPER]

India lost the series because Dhoni had a spat with Sakshi before he left for England tour....that dented his confidence...and then rest of the team followed his confidence

[Moman211]

Looking forward to the ODIS between England and India In india. Cant wait to see how young Bairstow does. He looks real good and will get plenty of chances to score runs on flat tracks. I think he will be crucial in the second powerplay. Overall the games will be very high scoring with batting dominating. Itll be interesting how Anderson,Bresnan and Swann perform. Swann will need to be at his best if England want to have a hope of winning. Btw could some one tell me when the first game is and where.

[Number]

It's on 14th oct , Hyderabad. Bairstow was really good that.very good inning for a debutant. we discussed little bit about this series here. http://www.indiancricketfans.com/showthread.php?t=271637