Old guy Posted January 15, 2012 Posted January 15, 2012 He has shown he can play on wickets which help fast bowling in southafrica in odis where others were struggling so its no suprise' date='But aussie never attacked his weakness that is short ball ,Wi bowlers consistently bowled short then pitched it up,he plays the pull well but he plays mostly in the air ,Too early to judge anybody.[/quote'] whenever they bowled short he left it alone or pulled it infront of midwicket only once he was surprised that got glove.. and went over haddin's head.. there is a reason they did not attack him like that bcos he was really in any problem against them he improved thats the best part abt these 2 inings
Bumper Posted January 15, 2012 Posted January 15, 2012 Will not average more than 40 outside Asia. I think so too, esp, if he does not find a way to negotiate short pitched stuff...
Old guy Posted January 15, 2012 Posted January 15, 2012 i mean infront of square not mid wicket sorry in hurry need to go some where :P
Needforspeed Posted January 15, 2012 Posted January 15, 2012 actually he showed in england that he is ognna improve cos he is willing to stick in there so he is def in.. Mukund techinically is a better opening batsman and looked to have a better technique. Rahane while talented is over rated. He is a good ODI player
asterix Posted January 15, 2012 Posted January 15, 2012 They just ARRIVED at the shopping mall... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Manny_Pacquiao Posted January 15, 2012 Posted January 15, 2012 he looked useless at melbourne, but improved a little bit in sydney with some eye catching shots and batted very well at perth. i don't think much of him as a test player to be honest, he sometimes doesnt give the impression that he knows where his off stump is, he doesn't defend well and tends to play too much off the front foot. the biggest improvement i could see in him was in the way he left deliveries that he was nicking earlier on. he also has very limited scoring areas - get a lot of runs thru the onside, where he is extremely strong and has good sense of timing - but if u take away that area, he would struggle to maneuver the ball elsewhere. teams could set the right fields and then force him to play outside off, and ifthe ball is doing something he will have little option than to leave all day or he will end up by nicking one or by uppish shots like he has done numerous times in his test career already. but he is one of the best we have, and we lose nothing by giving him opportunities. he is a young guy and he does have some good fundamentals - strong onside game, a fantastic pull shot (long time since i have seen a young indian batsman pull so well) and a good drive down the ground. there is something to work with and hopefully fletcher (or the next coach, whoever) can develop his game a bit i am looking forward to seeing him score a shitload of runs in the ODIs coming up...
Bumper Posted January 15, 2012 Posted January 15, 2012 He has shown he can play on wickets which help fast bowling in southafrica in odis where others were struggling so its no suprise' date='But aussie never attacked his weakness that is short ball ,Wi bowlers consistently bowled short then pitched it up,he plays the pull well but he plays mostly in the air ,Too early to judge anybody.[/quote'] Eggjactly! Aussies usually do their homework well. The only possible explanation is that may be they thought Kohli would get out just as easily with the full length too. He was the 11st best batsman in the team prior to this test.
Old guy Posted January 15, 2012 Posted January 15, 2012 he looked useless at melbourne, but improved a little bit in sydney with some eye catching shots and batted very well at perth. i don't think much of him as a test player to be honest, he sometimes doesnt give the impression that he knows where his off stump is, he doesn't defend well and tends to play too much off the front foot. the biggest improvement i could see in him was in the way he left deliveries that he was nicking earlier on. he also has very limited scoring areas - get a lot of runs thru the onside, where he is extremely strong and has good sense of timing - but if u take away that area, he would struggle to maneuver the ball elsewhere. teams could set the right fields and then force him to play outside off, and ifthe ball is doing something he will have little option than to leave all day or he will end up by nicking one or by uppish shots like he has done numerous times in his test career already. but he is one of the best we have, and we lose nothing by giving him opportunities. he is a young guy and he does have some good fundamentals - strong onside game, a fantastic pull shot (long time since i have seen a young indian batsman pull so well) and a good drive down the ground. there is something to work with and hopefully fletcher (or the next coach, whoever) can develop his game a bit i am looking forward to seeing him score a shitload of runs in the ODIs coming up... actually he drives the ball straight very well he also plays cover drive well.. he played it few times today not for 4's but he looked like a test batsman today.. he played to plan. so it was nice to see
The Outsider Posted January 15, 2012 Author Posted January 15, 2012 ^ Manny, he forced the bowlers to bowl to his strength something I did not see in Raina and Yuvraj.
Manny_Pacquiao Posted January 15, 2012 Posted January 15, 2012 actually he drives the ball straight very well he also plays cover drive well.. he played it few times today not for 4's but he looked like a test batsman today.. he played to plan. so it was nice to see oh we see a lot of those drives in the odis but on certain pitches, especially ones which have bounce, you cant rely on the cut and the drive. any batsman that tried driving in this series didn't get too far. its hard to drive a delivery thats pitched up and bounces a little bit higher...the timing will be off and u will nick it. this was the classic indian dismissal in england and here in australia. thats why you need guys with a BACKFOOT game, with horizontal bat shots. most indian batsmen grow up learning nothing but the cut and the drive...these are bread and butter shots in the subcon. but the guys with strong backfoot game will always be better TEST bats on most surfaces since its easier to adjust to higher bounce and re-adjust to lower bounce.
Old guy Posted January 15, 2012 Posted January 15, 2012 oh we see a lot of those drives in the odis but on certain pitches, especially ones which have bounce, you cant rely on the cut and the drive. any batsman that tried driving in this series didn't get too far. its hard to drive a delivery thats pitched up and bounces a little bit higher...the timing will be off and u will nick it. this was the classic indian dismissal in england and here in australia. thats why you need guys with a BACKFOOT game, with horizontal bat shots. most indian batsmen grow up learning nothing but the cut and the drive...these are bread and butter shots in the subcon. but the guys with strong backfoot game will always be better TEST bats on most surfaces since its easier to adjust to higher bounce and re-adjust to lower bounce. bro i saw them today.. and isaid drives.. he wasnt hammering them he was timing them jsut watch today's innings i was really impressed!
urbestfriend Posted January 15, 2012 Posted January 15, 2012 Ill get Rahane at 3' date=' Kohli at 5 and Pujara/Sharma at 6.. After Tendulkar, Rohit can move to 4.[/quote'] No, Kohli is the best of the lot and he has to play at #3..Pujara and Rohit can play at 4 and 5..
rkt.india Posted January 15, 2012 Posted January 15, 2012 Eggjactly! Aussies usually do their homework well. The only possible explanation is that may be they thought Kohli would get out just as easily with the full length too. He was the 11st best batsman in the team prior to this test. if fast bowlers bowl 145k bouncers then i have seen even tendulkar and dravid struggle. it is not how you play short ball because short ball does not take wickets most often. it is the ball following the short ball that decides the future. they did bowl some short stuff abd siddle was hooked emphatically and the short ball you are talking about hit the crack and reared up,was not that short, even the best would have found tough to handle that.
Ultimate_Game Posted January 15, 2012 Posted January 15, 2012 He has proven that there are enough talented youngsters in India provided they are given a chance. Rohit, Rahane, Pujara and Mukund must be given a fair shot and who knows they may form the backbone of the team for years to come.
Manny_Pacquiao Posted January 15, 2012 Posted January 15, 2012 He has proven that there are enough talented youngsters in India provided they are given a chance. Rohit' date=' Rahane, Pujara and Mukund must be given a fair shot and who knows they may form the backbone of the team for years to come.[/quote'] the talent level is comparable to what we had in previous decades, but the problem is whether they will prioritise test cricket
Old guy Posted January 15, 2012 Posted January 15, 2012 if fast bowlers at 145k bouncers then i have seen even tendulkar and dravid struggle. it is not how you play short ball because short ball does not take wickets. it is the ball following the short ball that decides the future. they did bowl some short stuff abd siddle was hooked emphatically and the short ball you are talking about hit the crack and reared up' date='was not that short, even the best would have found tough to handle that.[/quote'] thank you.. so u arent jsut bowling expert huh? :P jk
Ultimate_Game Posted January 15, 2012 Posted January 15, 2012 the talent level is comparable to what we had in previous decades' date=' but the problem is whether they will prioritise test cricket[/quote'] The ones I mentioned would do so... Rahane, Pujara and even Mukund are not natural T20 players so it's all the more important for them to make sure they perform in the Tests. Rohit and Kohli are a sure shot in all the formats but I see enough hunger in Kohli to perform in Tests. Rohit's comeback in odis is another positive and hope he shows up in Tests as well.
Cricketics Posted January 15, 2012 Posted January 15, 2012 I will say again.. VIRAT KOHLI is our best YOUNG GUN. NO ROHIT SHARMA. NO PUJARA.. NO OTHER ONE.. IT'S VIRAT KOHLI. VIRAT KOHLI VIRAT KOHLI.. FTW.. These nobodies who are plying now and worshipping Kohli were all being so Anti-Virat just 2 games ago. PATIENCE is the key. He is going to be your next champion player who will bring more smiles to you than anyone from Indian team in future. Time to worship him or whatever you can do.
Ultimate_Game Posted January 15, 2012 Posted January 15, 2012 I will say again.. VIRAT KOHLI is our best YOUNG GUN. NO ROHIT SHARMA. NO PUJARA.. NO OTHER ONE.. IT'S VIRAT KOHLI. VIRAT KOHLI VIRAT KOHLI.. FTW.. These nobodies who are plying now and worshipping Kohli were all being so Anti-Virat just 2 games ago. PATIENCE is the key. He is going to be your next champion player who will bring more smiles to you than anyone from Indian team in future. Time to worship him or whatever you can do. Have high hopes from Rohit. The guy is the most talented youngster and should be in the team. Kohli and Rohit are the future of Indian batting.
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