ravishingravi Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 I did not see any of the threads on this issue. But this is an awfully sad scenario and really dampens the image of India. It is not the same as as Tasleema issue, since Salman is an Indian and the govt. at the centre driven by UP election and its usual appeasement politics cannot take a stand protect the constitutional rights. Or atleast cannot seem to protect Salman. Salman Rushdie persuaded to stay away from Jaipur Literature Festival http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/jaipur/Salman-Rushdie-persuaded-to-stay-away-from-Jaipur-Literature-Festival/articleshow/11517786.cms
Lurker Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 Its kind of amazing, isnt it? I have read Rushdie's books and there was not anything so scandalous that he should have been treated witha fatwa on his head. Oddly enough it has been the Congress Govt that started this nautanki, but I have not seen any party speak against it (although they all drive mileage from the same). Isn't it weird that we worry about freedom of speech for Google and Facebook while we hound our own Rushdie and Hussains??
ravishingravi Posted January 17, 2012 Author Posted January 17, 2012 Its kind of amazing, isnt it? I have read Rushdie's books and there was not anything so scandalous that he should have been treated witha fatwa on his head. Oddly enough it has been the Congress Govt that started this nautanki, but I have not seen any party speak against it (although they all drive mileage from the same). Isn't it weird that we worry about freedom of speech for Google and Facebook while we hound our own Rushdie and Hussains?? Yeah quite true.
Prakat Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 Sad. Earlier, these guys were protesting and urging the Govt. to not give Rushdie a visa to attend the LitFest. Then Rushdie tweeted that he doesn't need a Visa. :hehe:
Mariyam Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 Its kind of amazing, isnt it? I have read Rushdie's books and there was not anything so scandalous that he should have been treated witha fatwa on his head. Oddly enough it has been the Congress Govt that started this nautanki, but I have not seen any party speak against it (although they all drive mileage from the same). Isn't it weird that we worry about freedom of speech for Google and Facebook while we hound our own Rushdie and Hussains?? The fatwa was by Ayatollah Khomenei!! Don't think the GoI could influence his line of 'reasoning' in any way. What is more startling, is that Rushdie is not a Shia. And generally speaking, fatwas are binding for Shias ( more often than not) and not so much for Sunnis. So, we have a situation where any Sunni body has not issued a fatwa or any legal opinion on an alleged blasphemer/apostate, but highest of the Shia priests has. More than opposition to the book it self, it was seen as an attempt by Ayatollah Khomeini to claim leadership of the ummah. What instead, the GoI should be ashamed of, is that it was the first government to ban "The Satanic Verses". I haven't read the book, but people who have told me that they didn't find it offensive in the least. Boring maybe, but not offensive.
ravishingravi Posted January 17, 2012 Author Posted January 17, 2012 It is quite a blatant attack on Islam. At least that was my reading of it. I think Rushdie had it coming.
akshayxyz Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 Its kind of amazing, isnt it? I have read Rushdie's books and there was not anything so scandalous that he should have been treated witha fatwa on his head. Oddly enough it has been the Congress Govt that started this nautanki, but I have not seen any party speak against it (although they all drive mileage from the same). Isn't it weird ironical that we worry about freedom of speech for Google and Facebook while we hound our own Rushdie and Hussains?? itni door jaane kee jaroorat nahi miyan.. ICF pe hee aise nazarey dikhtey rehte hain..
f.b.m Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 Isn't it weird that we worry about freedom of speech for Google and Facebook while we hound our own Rushdie and Hussains?? If we start, the thread would be closed in a couple of minutes.
Lurker Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 The fatwa was by Ayatollah Khomenei!! Don't think the GoI could influence his line of 'reasoning' in any way. What is more startling' date=' is that Rushdie is not a Shia. And generally speaking, fatwas are binding for Shias ( more often than not) and not so much for Sunnis. So, we have a situation where any Sunni body has not issued a fatwa or any legal opinion on an alleged blasphemer/apostate, but highest of the Shia priests has. More than opposition to the book it self, it was seen as an attempt by Ayatollah Khomeini to claim leadership of the [i']ummah. What instead, the GoI should be ashamed of, is that it was the first government to ban "The Satanic Verses". I haven't read the book, but people who have told me that they didn't find it offensive in the least. Boring maybe, but not offensive. That was my point really. India was the first country to ban the book, which is kinda odd as it came out of the blue. And then the author got hounded out of the nation. And even the book is not that scandalous
saneindian Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 He has been to India at least five times post the fatwa. No one had a problem back then, but the backdrop of the assembly elections has changed the scenario.
punjabi_khota Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 Pseudo secularist pussification at its best :yay:
Prakat Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 I've come to the conclusion that I would be happy to live in a society which is as free, tolerant and forward as we are with the State making token concessions to accommodate the touchy, intolerant, quick to take offense groups and keep them satisfied. Rather than live in a restricted society which is given to grand and empty gestures to show how open it is.
coffee_rules Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 Its kind of amazing, isnt it? I have read Rushdie's books and there was not anything so scandalous that he should have been treated witha fatwa on his head. Oddly enough it has been the Congress Govt that started this nautanki, but I have not seen any party speak against it (although they all drive mileage from the same). Isn't it weird that we worry about freedom of speech for Google and Facebook while we hound our own Rushdie and Hussains?? Is 'we' the govt or 'we' the pepal? If it's the govt, then they are not worried about freedom of speech 'for' Google/FB, but they are about freedom of speech 'of' Google/FB. They want to stifle them further.
Texy Posted January 18, 2012 Posted January 18, 2012 Secular country my a.s..s Taslima nasreen gets physically attacked in broad daylight at a conference, Rushdie gets fatwa and told not to enter India...while M.F. Hussein was welcomed with open arms by the government...amazing disparity in the level of freedom
surajmal Posted January 18, 2012 Posted January 18, 2012 Secular country my a.s..s Taslima nasreen gets physically attacked in broad daylight at a conference, Rushdie gets fatwa and told not to enter India...while M.F. Hussein was welcomed with open arms by the government...amazing disparity in the level of freedom MF Hussain was a little weasel. Him jettisoning to a mullah desh in name of freedom of artistic expression was pure lols. Good riddance to bad rubbish, I say. As for the Salman Rushdie situation.. why does rushdie even bother coming back to this country? If there one thing we have realized over the years is that there is no appreciation for genuine intellect here.
nballa Posted January 18, 2012 Posted January 18, 2012 did anyone watch the seinfeld episode where Kramer allegedly meets salman rushdie, who introduces himself as 'salbas'. 'salmon', sal'bass'. too funny.
ViruRulez Posted January 18, 2012 Posted January 18, 2012 Sorry but I do not agree with not allowing Rushidie or anyone else to not allow in India. We as a democratic nation should not stop anyone on any religious pretext. And that goes for all religions. The hypocrisy in this country is amazing.
bihutoli Posted January 18, 2012 Posted January 18, 2012 This govt is bent on taking us the Paki-Chini route. First trying to get internet companies to filter out political dissent as well as freedom of religious expression. Then dissuading people with divergent views from entering the country. And its not just the govt, curbs on choice and expression have risen from the right wing, the judiciary everybody. Very soon we as a country will turn into what we most mock.
Texy Posted January 20, 2012 Posted January 20, 2012 Truly disgusting in a supposedly secular state ..... why is no one outraged? http://news.in.msn.com/national/article.aspx?cp-documentid=5761613 meanwhile the festival has started without him
Mariyam Posted January 20, 2012 Posted January 20, 2012 Truly disgusting in a supposedly secular state ..... why is no one outraged? http://news.in.msn.com/national/article.aspx?cp-documentid=5761613 meanwhile the festival has started without him People have a right to protest, provided they do it in a peaceful way and get the prior clearances. Why should anyone be outraged?
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