A disgraceful moment in Indian cricketing history

[akshayxyz]

:omg: can we have a thread on Teresa vs SathyaSaiBaba in chit-chat section.

[Sachinism]

:omg: can we have a thread on Teresa vs SathyaSaiBaba in chit-chat section.

If anyone want's to discuss. From now, no more posts regarding her on this thread

[Lurker]

I apologize for the nasty comments towards Mother Teresa, but I honestly believe she wasn't a saint. She did good, but had ulterior motives, kinda like Sachin, some would have you believe. Anyways if you're really curious why it was said, just do a quick google search on "Mother teresa criticism" or something along those lines.

You made a honest mistake, now lets all move on. No need to add more fuel to the fire for the fundamentalist. You can always open a "rahasy-udghatan" thread in Chit chat for the usual suspects.

[Sachin=GOD]

Thread crossed 1000 posts. Badhaiyaan :band:

[akshayxyz]

Thread crossed 1000 posts. Badhaiyaan :band:

How many international cricket threads (on individuals) are there with 1000+ posts. :hmmm:, is there a chance this is 100th one on SRT?

[Sachin=GOD]

How many international cricket threads (on individuals) are there with 1000+ posts. :hmmm:' date=' is there a chance this is 100th one on SRT?[/quote'] 100th thread with over 1000 posts on Goddy - another milestone B->

[Yoda-esque]

Guys..ab is baat ko Chhod do... Either side talking this way and making ad hominem remarks only makes them look juvenile and small. A selfish person can never reach the echelons of success that SRT has reached. We will never know if SRT played that way for himself or his fans or the whole of India. I'd like to believe it was the latter.

[Bumper]

Wow, that's 25 pages of discussion. WTH, I'll throw in my perspective here: Tendulkar has always been a milestone conscious cricketer, more so of his 100th 100. Given that this is a once in a life time milestone and he has been out of form for a while, he saw this as a golden opportunity to play himself to the coveted mark. I dont think anyone can deny that Tendulkar played selfishly in the Ind-BD game. In some ways, he played a key role in the loss (though he is not the only one to blame) However some perspective is needed here. The innings was selfish if you simply look at it from an idealist perspective. But this view is quite impractical. Every cricketer is selfish. Many slow down close to the land mark, attain the landmark and then try to compensate for it by going berserk (esp, in ODIs). Since this was the mother of all milestones, SRT took the extra precaution to ensure that his milestone was attained. But what puzzles me is that we have always known this and have accepted this flaw of Tendulkar's and for years, we have even placed his milestones above team results as fans. This is a cultural difference that separates Indian fans from say Aussie fans. Given this, why have we grown more intolerant all of a sudden ? If Tendulkar is scoring tons winning tests for India, would this innings or even the loss have mattered to us ? Because he is playing poorly in both forms, many see this as an opportunity to pounce on him. Think about it. Did some of you guys who pounce on his flaws now, hold the same view few years back, when Tendulkar was still in his prime ? How many of you criticized his 194 at Multan ? Or the way he batted with the tail in some test matches ? Speaking of selfishness, we always tend to judge others by a different yardstick than the one we use to judge ourselves. If you happen to be the one who tries to save money for your company by eating at Taco Bell on a business trip or the one who told your VP to dump your project because it makes the least business sense, go ahead & pummel Tendulkar for his selfishness. Or if you are the practical kind, just accept this flaw of Tendulkar & move on...

[asterix]

I still recall the day when he made himself 'available' for the Asia Cup..That itself was an indication to the selectors to ditch any idea of giving chance to a newcomer.. He had his target fixed on Bangbros, the moment he realised he can't get the 'monkeys' off in Australia..

[Swing_n_Speed]

:omg: You are sick. Get well soon. Sachin would be ashamed if he will get to know that he has fans like you. By the way, aint nobody moderate this site?

True the guy has his head way up his A**. If Sachin could he'd definitely disown such fans.

[Crookbond]

I still recall the day when he made himself 'available' for the Asia Cup..That itself was an indication to the selectors to ditch any idea of giving chance to a newcomer.. He had his target fixed on Bangbros, the moment he realised he can't get the 'monkeys' off in Australia..

This is going too far, isn't it? :acute:

[asterix]

This is going too far' date=' isn't it? :acute:[/quote']

[velu]

I still recall the day when he made himself 'available' for the Asia Cup..That itself was an indication to the selectors to ditch any idea of giving chance to a newcomer.. He had his target fixed on Bangbros, the moment he realised he can't get the 'monkeys' off in Australia..

If we could read Manoj Tiwary's mind :diablo:

[rkt.india]

I still recall the day when he made himself 'available' for the Asia Cup..That itself was an indication to the selectors to ditch any idea of giving chance to a newcomer.. He had his target fixed on Bangbros, the moment he realised he can't get the 'monkeys' off in Australia..

Michael Clark had the golden chance to score 400 and break the record of Lara, but no, he declared on 329. They had enough time to dismiss India, but still they did not want to take any chance against Indian batting on a pitch which was flattening out. This is called playing for team and leading the side with example. We know 400 was a big milestone for anyone in test cricket. A senior player needs to set the example for youngsters but that Sachin could not do. Now if any player, especially youngster plays for his 100 who can blame him. We already have an example set.

[express bowling]

Michael Clark had the golden chance to score 400 and break the record of Lara, but no, he declared on 329. They had enough time to dismiss India, but still they did not want to take any chance against Indian batting on a pitch which was flattening out. This is called playing for team and leading the side with example. We know 400 was a big milestone for anyone in test cricket. A senior player needs to set the example for youngsters but that Sachin could not do. Now if any player, especially youngster plays for his 100 who can blame him. We already have an example set.

Exactly. It sets the tone in the dressing room.

[yoda]

Michael Clark had the golden chance to score 400 and break the record of Lara, but no, he declared on 329. They had enough time to dismiss India, but still they did not want to take any chance against Indian batting on a pitch which was flattening out. This is called playing for team and leading the side with example. We know 400 was a big milestone for anyone in test cricket.

Well RD did that when SRT was on 194* and he was cursed for it. There you go.

[Sidhoni]

Michael Clark had the golden chance to score 400 and break the record of Lara, but no, he declared on 329. They had enough time to dismiss India, but still they did not want to take any chance against Indian batting on a pitch which was flattening out. This is called playing for team and leading the side with example. We know 400 was a big milestone for anyone in test cricket. A senior player needs to set the example for youngsters but that Sachin could not do. Now if any player, especially youngster plays for his 100 who can blame him. We already have an example set.

top post :two_thumbs_up:

[Tiger80]

Michael Clark had the golden chance to score 400 and break the record of Lara, but no, he declared on 329. They had enough time to dismiss India, but still they did not want to take any chance against Indian batting on a pitch which was flattening out. This is called playing for team and leading the side with example. We know 400 was a big milestone for anyone in test cricket. A senior player needs to set the example for youngsters but that Sachin could not do. Now if any player, especially youngster plays for his 100 who can blame him. We already have an example set.

:agree: +1

[Gambit]

Michael Clark had the golden chance to score 400 and break the record of Lara, but no, he declared on 329. They had enough time to dismiss India, but still they did not want to take any chance against Indian batting on a pitch which was flattening out. This is called playing for team and leading the side with example. We know 400 was a big milestone for anyone in test cricket. A senior player needs to set the example for youngsters but that Sachin could not do. Now if any player, especially youngster plays for his 100 who can blame him. We already have an example set.

What about the other examples Tendulkar sets? Running after the ball in the field at 39, incredible desire for the game and devotion towards it, humility, hours of untiring practice, ability to understand one's batting weakness and evolve and gelling equally well with contemporaries and juniors. If these aren't followed by the younger lot, why should the selfish milestone hogging habit be? Young players aren't mindless robots who will do whatever their seniors will. No one emulated Gavaskar's 36*. No Indian bowler puffed to their wicket milestone after observing Kapil do so. Tendulkar did not sell the country after watching Azhar do so. And funny that Michael Clarke has become a paragon of virtue now. This is a guy who got into a fight with his own team mate in the dressing room(Simon Katich). He's a guy who had a fight with Symonds. He's the one who took that blatant grounded catch off Ganguly at Sydney 2008 and told the umpire to take his word. Great example to follow for sure.

[rkt.india]

What about the other examples Tendulkar sets? Running after the ball in the field at 39, incredible desire for the game and devotion towards it, humility, hours of untiring practice, ability to understand one's batting weakness and evolve and gelling equally well with contemporaries and juniors. If these aren't followed by the younger lot, why should the selfish milestone hogging habit be? Young players aren't mindless robots who will do whatever their seniors will. No one emulated Gavaskar's 36*. No Indian bowler puffed to their wicket milestone after observing Kapil do so. Tendulkar did not sell the country after watching Azhar do so. And funny that Michael Clarke has become a paragon of virtue now. This is a guy who got into a fight with his own team mate in the dressing room(Simon Katich). He's a guy who had a fight with Symonds. He's the one who took that blatant grounded catch off Ganguly at Sydney 2008 and told the umpire to take his word. Great example to follow for sure.

So you are saying our young lot Kohli, Raina, Sharma, Tiwary, Jadeja etc. are poor fielders. Fielding does not come natural to everyone, so you cannot compare fielding to that incident. You are taking whole context to different arguments. Here we are not talking about what his character is or what he did in 2008. We are not questioning SRT's career achievement, but that 1 hour of play did not set a great example to anyone. No one say CLark is god or Clark is the best batsman ever. He is just another batsman, but if he can keep his interest away for team's cause why not SRT. I do not think his greatness would have been demeaned even if he has not had 100th 100.