India vs England 2012

[Dinx - the Jinx]

Both should be released to play for their Ranji sides in round 3 from Nov 17 after the test match starts. Not just them but even those on the bench' date=' most likely Bhajji, Rahane and Vijay should also be asked to join their Ranji sides. Play some local boys as sub fielders if required.[/quote'] that may not happen. the reserve players have to be in the dressing room to gel with the team. its not like, if you are not in the XI, you can go and play Ranji

[Crookbond]

Please read again this time with ur glasses lol' date=' PERSONALLY LOL[/quote'] You are drawing a tangential conclusion to the people discussing the topic. Makes no sense, even if you have read between the lines ... Personally. :winky2:

[Tridibans_16]

I have a feeling that this series will be the revival of Sachin Also, Gauti will be left out for Aus tests after this series

[indiaregulator]

Does anyone think in flat pitches like India, the Duncan fletcher approach might work? That is, England selecting Meaker, Finn, Broad, Swann and Topley? Ie, I don't care about your accuracy and line/length as much as I care about the amount of pace you can generate.

[Number]

Anderson and Broad will pwn Indian batsmen.

[SLICKR392]

Anderson and Broad will pwn Indian batsmen.

Bring it on :antijinx:

[SLICKR392]

What on earth is Collingwood going on about in Times Now? :facepalm:

[Crookbond]

Pitch prompts Dhoni to rule out three spinners http://www.espncricinfo.com/india-v-england-2012/content/current/story/591312.html

MS Dhoni has all but ruled out playing three spinners on an Ahmedabad track that is "on the drier side", but not quite the turner India got in Kanpur when they beat South Africa inside three days in 2008. Even though they were not present at the pre-match training session, Zaheer Khan and Umesh Yadav are fit and sure starters. With Ishant Sharma down with viral fever, Ashok Dinda is being flown in as cover for any last-minute injury to either Zaheer or Yadav. Dhoni has made no secret of his demand of Indian groundsmen that visiting teams be given a stern spin test, but his faith in two quicks on the eve of the start of the series suggests the pitch might not be a "rank turner". "If we get a wicket like we got in Kanpur against South Africa, maybe we will even go with four [spinners]," Dhoni said. "Also what we need to see is if the wicket is like that, the fast bowlers also get a bit of reverse swing. It is always advisable to have a bowling attack where you have people for different scenarios, and I believe fast bowlers are important." The square at the Sardar Patel Satdium has been relaid recently, the lower clay content promises breaking up, the pitch looks completely bald, but the groundsman is worried the turn on offer could be slow. "Looks like a good wicket," Dhoni said. "As the game progresses it may slow down, and the spinners might get some assistance. Maybe a bit of reverse swing for the fast bowlers. "Definitely it looks on the drier side. I feel they have changed the soil from the last time we played here… Definitely I feel it will turn." That Dhoni is not thinking of a third spinner has a lot to do with the return of Yuvraj Singh, who can - in the contest against England and Kevin Pietersen - even pass off as an allrounder. Even when Dhoni was asked about Pietersen's return, he said they will enjoy the contest between him and the "piechucker". "He bats at No. 5 or No. 6, and his left-arm spin is very crucial for us," Dhoni said of Yuvraj. "The reason being, more often than not, because we don't have a genuine allrounder, we play four bowlers. So it's important that the part-timers contribute. Especially that phase when the ball becomes old and you are waiting for new ball, you can't use your fast bowlers, you don't want your spinners to be really tired because even with the new ball they come into play after just 10 overs. I feel his contribution will be very important. He is quite intimidating when he bats. If you see his good innings, he can really dominate." The third spinner in the squad, who is all but likely to miss the Ahmedabad Test, is Harbhajan Singh. :yay: Dhoni said his experience, even if he doesn't get to play, will be valuable. "If you look at the top four or five spinners [in India], Bhajji features there," Dhoni said. The good thing is, he is now part of this series, and he can share his experience with youngsters. [Pragyan] Ojha has played with him in quite a few games. With [R] Ashwin he can share a bit more experience. He has a big contribution to make in the coming series. He will work a lot with the team. That should help him in the future." Dhoni reinstated his faith in the spin combination of Ashwin and Ojha. "They understand each other very well," Dhoni said. "That's something very important. If it's not turning, Ojha is someone who can keep it tight. "Ashwin will always be a more aggressive bowler, in the sense he has got plenty of variations. He loves to use those variations. I think one of the important roles of Ojha's is to keep it tight so Ashwin can attack from the other end. It's not just that. We have seen in innings where Ojha gets the breakthrough for us, Ashwin does the containing job. Best part is, if they know there is something for them, they come into the game." Dhoni showed so much faith in Ashwin, he made Ashwin sound like the most versatile bowler of all time when asked to compare him with Saeed Ajmal. After paying due respect to Ajmal, Dhoni said: "Ashwin has also got variations. He can bowl almost each and every delivery that anyone can bowl. He has got the flipper, the googly, bowls legspin, offspin, the carrom ball…" If Dhoni the captain is to believed, Dhoni the keeper better watch out.

[Crookbond]

Dhoni is playing some mind games with the Poms.

[vamos_rafa]

The most pleasing line coming from dhoni is this:

I believe fast bowlers are important

Hope he does realize the importance of growing a few fast bowlers.

[MCcricket]

If both teams play to their potential India will win easy, if Zak or Ishant are not fit, KP plays a blinder India might loose or draw one, don't see England winning any also their bowling attack is very weak, Bambi, Anderson are weak might be better on sporting tracks, Sehwag will score big, Sachin will never ever have a great series as when he was in his prime.

[wobblydoggy]

Apparently the pitch at Motera has been relaid , this time with lesser clay content which may see the pitch breaking apart a lot earlier. Looks like Umesh will be warming the bench with Zak+3 spinners being the bowling line up. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/cricket/series-tournament/england-in-india-2012/top-stories/Relaid-pitch-at-Motera-can-sting-England/articleshow/17137850.cms

wicket fixing already no change there then

[indiaregulator]

If both teams play to their potential India will win easy, if Zak or Ishant are not fit, KP plays a blinder India might loose or draw one, don't see England winning any also their bowling attack is very weak, Bambi, Anderson are weak might be better on sporting tracks, Sehwag will score big, Sachin will never ever have a great series as when he was in his prime.

What a fail post. If both teams play to their best, it means the likes of Cook and trott will repeat their ashes performances, KP will score a run ball double century and Bell would play like he did against India in England. It would also mean that Anderson, Broad, Bresnan and Finn would bowl like they did against India/Pakistan and Swann like he did in Sri Lanka. If thats the case, given India's newbies and lack of quality bowlers, England would win. But back to reality. THeir bowling attack is very weak. Yeah okay, the Sri lanka, UAE series recently were all a dream. Finn destroying everyone was a dream. Swann in Sri Lanka was also a dream.

[vvvslaxman]

wicket fixing Whinging already no change there then

corrected :cantstop:

[Old guy]

What a fail post. If both teams play to their best, it means the likes of Cook and trott will repeat their ashes performances, KP will score a run ball double century and Bell would play like he did against India in England. It would also mean that Anderson, Broad, Bresnan and Finn would bowl like they did against India/Pakistan and Swann like he did in Sri Lanka. If thats the case, given India's newbies and lack of quality bowlers, England would win. But back to reality. THeir bowling attack is very weak. Yeah okay, the Sri lanka, UAE series recently were all a dream. Finn destroying everyone was a dream. Swann in Sri Lanka was also a dream.

agree english bowling has been very good its batting which failed in subcontinent but finn is injured broad not in same form..swann i think we indians play spin better then sri lankans amd pakis..but tht is when batters are on song right now any spinner can get gautam and sehwag out:(( well hope is with youngsters and team is serious abt series so i will still back india but england can win test or 2 ..no way we are whitewashing anyone

[tatters]

I'm all in favour of India preparing the pitch how they want. Indeed, England do the same sort of thing to favour quick bowlers. But it's a little disturbing how crucial the toss is likely to be for the outcome of the match. The useless ****s Sehwag and Gambhir better perform. I don't expect them to though.

[indiaregulator]

I'm all in favour of India preparing the pitch how they want. Indeed, England do the same sort of thing to favour quick bowlers. But it's a little disturbing how crucial the toss is likely to be for the outcome of the match. The useless ****s Sehwag and Gambhir better perform. I don't expect them to though.

Actually England don't do anything to engineer pitches to favour their bowlers. Edgebaston, Oval, Lords, Headingly are as flat as anything. It's just there's usually alot of cloudcover meaning Broad/Anderson/Bresnan can swing it a mile.

[1983-2011]

prepare a dust bowl and open the bowling with ojha and ashwin, try yadav and zaheer when the spin duo need a breather

[SLICKR392]

prepare a dust bowl and open the bowling with ojha and ashwin' date=' try yadav and zaheer when the spin duo need a breather[/quote'] Don't give them a break..bring in Yuvi and Viru :giggle:

[Prakat]

200 up for loss of 1! Enjoy Dhokla How new is this? Congrats to S&G for sticking around. :congrats: