vishalvirsingh Posted April 20, 2012 Author Posted April 20, 2012 This is Great Analysis Pk vk irfan ashwin big failures till now.......I hope they don't pick PK and VK
msb1991 Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 These sort of performances cannot write the bowlers off the ODI format, but they can certainly right them out of the T20I format.
vishalvirsingh Posted April 20, 2012 Author Posted April 20, 2012 Which one is faster and better between Veer pratap or Parvinder Awana I didn't see Veer pratap so can't say anything...I feel parvinder is good n pacy n pankaj may be marginaLly slower but at peak Pankaj may be a shade better bcos of his height n bounce he gets. For me Pankaj cud be marginally better than awana....though Dinda is far better than both
ChanaLal Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 RKT have u read the book Fat Bowlers Bible by Ian Pont' date=' I was wanting to read this book for quite a few years, might buy it, it is one of the best books on fast bowling also u might love it.[/quote'] It is a terrific book. All Indian coaches should read it and coach that way. we would have loads of fast bowlers
msb1991 Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 Which one is faster and better between Veer pratap or Parvinder Awana I didn't see Veer pratap so can't say anything...I feel parvinder is good n pacy n pankaj may be marginaLly slower but at peak Pankaj may be a shade better bcos of his height n bounce he gets. For me Pankaj cud be marginally better than awana....though Dinda is far better than both They all play in the same domestic leagues, it should be easy to tell the better bowler. You don't have to watch and make a judgement; especially when they all bowl a decent pace. The records tell a story. Pankaj and Awana have experience, Dinda is in great form and Pratap is young, inexperienced, unproven. It is a terrific book. All Indian coaches should read it and coach that way. we would have loads of fast bowlers I disagree. The book is good for coaching young people how to bowl. However, when coaching professionals, you will need a qualification in the ABSAT method to know the drills and which parts are the priority and are easy to coach into bowlers without tampering too much in the action. Even the best tampering will cause an initially detrimental effect, if it is too major.
saneindian Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 These sort of performances cannot write the bowlers off the ODI format' date=' but they can certainly right them out of the T20I format.[/quote'] It's abundantly clear now that PK has lot a lot of his ability to swing the ball. His wrist position and the release is no longer how it used to be earlier. No wonder his performances have gone down considerably since the England series last year across all formats including domestic cricket. 11 ODI wickets@50 in 11 matches since then, now no wickets in IPL, did not bowl well in a Ranji match he played in between..Signs of a bowler completely out of form and someone who should not be a part of the national side anymore. Needs to find a county contract somehow and get his confidence back.
Laaloo Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 + his fitness and attitude sucks. Starts mouthing off or looking constipated after getting hit for boundaries. And also, he gets tired after his first spell very easily
msb1991 Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 It's abundantly clear now that PK has lot a lot of his ability to swing the ball. His wrist position and the release is no longer how it used to be earlier. No wonder his performances have gone down considerably since the England series last year across all formats including domestic cricket. 11 ODI wickets@50 in 11 matches since then, now no wickets in IPL, did not bowl well in a Ranji match he played in between..Signs of a bowler completely out of form and someone who should not be a part of the national side anymore. Needs to find a county contract somehow and get his confidence back. It is weird. He bowled so brilliantly against England and if fully fit, should probably play Test cricket again to see if he still has it with the red ball. I know the pace brigade will criticize his bowling, but no one outside ICF will say he bowled poorly. And yet, he should so no longer be in ODI or T20 contention. As in, he should not be in the squads, even!
BERGKAMP Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 the 4 losers in my avatar should never be picked for india again, and be replaced by veer pratap, awanna, dinda and harshal patel, even though HP got taken apart yday he has potential. i dont care if it only tamasha league in which they have shown what they can do, 135ks is minimum average required in international cricket and that is the top speed for our current trundler brigade.
kidnextdoor Posted April 21, 2012 Posted April 21, 2012 Any idea whether Rahul Shukla (MI) will get a chance in the XI or not? I read that he's genuinely quick. lol just the thought of MI giving a chance to unporven youngsters... not happening, keep in mind this is the same team that thought that S. Dhawan is not good enough for them........ motto of MI is " we suck all the talent out of other teams and have them sit on the bench"
ShebbySB Posted April 21, 2012 Posted April 21, 2012 Veer Pratap Singh & Parwinder Awana has certainly been positives & what I see is none of them are express both are good Fast-medium & sharp.Awana is bit sharper than Veer.Veer was clocking 138-139 ks consistently while Awana was consistently around 140-142 ks.Plus Veer is a rookie while Awana has more experience & FC success.
ShebbySB Posted April 21, 2012 Posted April 21, 2012 fastest 140. average around 135. Not the fastest' date=' but still better than many.[/quote'] He can bowl faster than that.He's a bihari & was selected for Bengal for his ability to bowl quick.Nowadays Bengal gives priority to the bowlers with pace,min of 85mph.That's why Dinda,Shami,Veer is playing ahead of Ranadeb,Sourav Sarkar & Eklakh Ahmed.Dada plays a very important role in this.
rkt.india Posted April 21, 2012 Posted April 21, 2012 We need more pitches like the one Mumbai prepared last time. You get late swing on fuller length deliveries and the pitch is phaast and more bounce and you have spin also :woot: That was one of its kind track in India..such pace and bounce..that was heartening to see.
dragonfly Posted April 21, 2012 Posted April 21, 2012 RKT have u read the book Fat Bowlers Bible by Ian Pont' date= I was wanting to read this book for quite a few years, might buy it, it is one of the best books on fast bowling also u might love it. We need them fat bowlers!
vishalvirsingh Posted April 22, 2012 Author Posted April 22, 2012 What was umesh"s pace- fastest and average in yesterday"s match any idea
vishalvirsingh Posted April 22, 2012 Author Posted April 22, 2012 Awana Looked very Good not just 140 to 142 K pace but good yorker and good length bowling---else he wud not hav grabbed 4 wickets...I wl observe him closely in today"s game check him out
vishalvirsingh Posted April 22, 2012 Author Posted April 22, 2012 That's great Good pace Umesh is in form then.
vishalvirsingh Posted April 22, 2012 Author Posted April 22, 2012 How come perera playing ahead of ABU Nachim
Number Posted April 22, 2012 Posted April 22, 2012 How come perera playing ahead of ABU Nachim All rounder.
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