asterix Posted September 3, 2013 Posted September 3, 2013 DG Vanjara Quits IPS... Blames Modi & Amit Shah... TOI ticker news... Huge blow to Modi coming up...
Clarke Posted September 3, 2013 Posted September 3, 2013 Yep, MAJOR BLOW TO MODI I'm referring to the food security bill, not the baansi news on the encounter
saneindian Posted September 3, 2013 Posted September 3, 2013 Such a huge blow to Modi and no discussion on the thread . Even 1983 is absent :(( And not even a post about the CD that was released.
ravishingravi Posted September 4, 2013 Posted September 4, 2013 Such a huge blow to Modi and no discussion on the thread . Even 1983 is absent :(( And not even a post about the CD that was released. I don't know if that was sarcasm, but it some news. It could blow up. But I guess we cannot talk about Advani, the now moderate / secular leader of BJP to be as possible PM candidate anymore. It will be Modi and we will get many such articles and views. Thing working for Modi is not the fact that nation has bought into him or his ideas. It is MMS and Congress. I think BJP will do well urban areas where people are more immediately effected.
diga Posted September 4, 2013 Posted September 4, 2013 May be Modi is the diversionary shield for all Congress targets... That way other BJP leaders can work on their own constituencies without worrying about the bigger picture
diga Posted September 4, 2013 Posted September 4, 2013 DG Vanjara Quits IPS... Blames Modi & Amit Shah... TOI ticker news... Huge blow to Modi coming up... Madhu Kishwar @madhukishwar Sudhir Sinha of Guj Human Rights Commision said CBI practicing "legal third degree" to break jailed cops to coerce them to implicate Modi:--D Madhu Kishwar now impicating centres role in the whole drama
Crookbond Posted September 4, 2013 Posted September 4, 2013 Such a huge blow to Modi and no discussion on the thread . Even 1983 is absent :(( And not even a post about the CD that was released.
The Outsider Posted September 4, 2013 Posted September 4, 2013 Such a huge blow to Modi and no discussion on the thread . Even 1983 is absent :(( And not even a post about the CD that was released. What's there to discuss - except people with their heads buried in the sand, everyone knows that Modi and Shah are criminals and misused the government machinery to carry out fake encounters. Vanzara and the CD are just providing further corroboration. Quite obviously these things will make zero difference to Modi's fanboys - it's not like something new has come out of this.
Crookbond Posted September 5, 2013 Posted September 5, 2013 Interesting article and somewhat sums up the discussion. A ‘class’ analysis of NaMo’s appeal The railways is a fascinating universe. It is credited with being the catalyst of the national movement, a harbinger of progress and perhaps the earliest cosmopolitan structure in South Asia. Train journeys and impromptu addas on railway platforms have been the single largest source of unsolicited advice and unique insights for me. Everybody on the Indian rail network has an opinion and the quality of their logic often transcends the pigeon holes of educational qualifications and social status. It’s no surprise that flavour-of-the-season Gujarat CM Narendra Modi has found his way into most of the gossip I’ve gathered on recent railway encounters. I first found Modi during a groundnut munching session on a train from Gwalior. Returning from a BJP conclave, without a reserved ticket, I spent half the journey sitting on my haunches with an armed police jawan near a Sleeper Class toilet. But as soon as the train crossed Lalitpur, Bundelkhandi egalitarianism overcame the segregation of the Unreserved and Sleeper classes. I joined a group of rail workers in “adjusting” seating arrangements with the Sleeper Class petty bourgeois. Once seated, the groundnut munchies set in. So did the urge to give gyan. After learning about why I was in Gwalior, a railwayman blamed journalists like me for creating the hype around Modi. He and his colleagues owed their allegiance to the BSP although they were members of a socialist Hind Mazdoor Sabha union. His colleagues agreed with him and were soon rebutted by one of the valid ticket holders. “Modi ji is the only hope to end corruption and terrorism. Rahul (Gandhi) and your Mayawati can’t,” he said. The leader of the railway group pointed out that there was corruption in Gujarat too and he accused Modi of terrorising Muslims in 2002. Arguments went back and forth until the Modi supporter agreed that without Mayawati, Dalits didn’t stand a chance. The BSP men agreed the Modi was the best bet to beat the Congress. In the course of the discussion, both sides cursed corrupt and communal party bosses. A trinket seller and the armed constable silently listened to them till the end. The vendor left after saying that he would continue to vote for the Congress because one of it’s local leaders had got the Datia railway police to release his goods which they had seized. The Modi man then jokingly asked the cop, “Thanedaar (Inspector) sahib, who will you vote for?” “I will be on poll duty. We never get to vote,” he replied. I must add that the Election Commission has asked the Madhya Pradesh Police to ensure its personnel get to vote in assembly polls this year. Weeks later, in an Air Conditioned chair car from Delhi to Bhopal, a passenger got into a fight with the catering staff. Most AC class passengers I’ve met have little tolerance for the shortcomings of caterers, security, conservancy staff and almost anybody who’s not well heeled. A train ticket examiner (TTE) and a Railway Police sub-inspector came in to cool tempers. Kanpur folk have a way with words and soon, the passenger, the TTE, the cop and I — who had restrained the passenger from throwing punches — were having soup with the caterer. Modi came up again. The caterer had unique insights into the politicking “new BJP faces” were doing in his district of Muzaffarnagar. He wouldn’t vote for them, he said, but was impressed with their work. The TTE and cop, who turned out to be distantly related, said they would stick with the Samajwadi Party — of which one of their country cousins was a legislator. My friend, the righteous passenger, expressed shock at their “ignorance” and said that Modi was the only option for “sensible people”. When asked, he said he had never voted before but intended to do so next year. The caterer and the railway employees listed reasons ranging from the working of the land records office to the varchasv (clout) of candidates. The passenger’s reasons were corruption and dislike for dynastic politics. Both sides agreed that rising prices were killing them. My friend Avinash from Singrauli is a stereotypical jholawalla — a term used for anyone left of centre. He usually slips into unreserved coaches even when the NGO he works for books his seat in an AC coach. “I feel uncomfortable there. Besides, the gossip is livelier in the general coach,” he says. For the last few months, Avinash, a frequent railroader, has been travelling intermittently in all classes of the railways. “The support for Modi,” he says, “increases with the ticket price. Most passengers in all classes, except Muslims, have a good opinion about him. But his proclaimed voters are concentrated in the AC coaches.” Avinash, who notes his observations in a diary, says, “In the AC classes, there’s no debate. If you talk politics, they will only talk about scams and the Gujarat model. Over there, passengers lose their temper when I criticise Modi. Surprisingly, many of them are not sure of which constituency they live in.” In the Sleeper Class too, he says, goodwill for Modi is almost universal. “But it’s easy to provoke a debate. Eveybody joins in. Whether they will vote for the BJP or not, they are impressed with his charisma.” In Avinash’s favourite general coach, however, the debate is more nuanced. “Here everybody can be criticised, even abused. People wear the political colours on their sleeves, but are open to opposing arguments. Most of them have heard good things about Modi. But the support for him here is comparatively the least.” The reasons for their political choices, he says, are local bread and butter issues. Issues like access to food and education. Issues key to survival like caste, the behaviour of politicians and the local political economy. Congress Vice President Rahul Gandhi often publicises his interactions with passengers in a general coach from Gorakhpur to Mumbai. Perhaps all politicians need to focus on this group that knows exactly which ward and polling booth they fall under. But netas be warned,they are for more articulate than the AC coach lot and once you are in, you can’t get out till the next station. http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/blogs/blogs-end-of-the-day/article5096968.ece
Khalpat Posted September 6, 2013 Posted September 6, 2013 http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/news-by-company/corporate-trends/ceo-confidence-survey-almost-three-fourths-back-narendra-modi-less-than-10-want-rahul-gandhi-as-pm/articleshow/22350658.cms BJP is yet to formally anoint Narendra Modi as its prime ministerial candidate, but an overwhelming chunk of the country's top business leaders is convinced he's the best man for the job. Almost three-fourths of 100 honchos polled in the 'ET CEO Confidence Survey' want Modi as PM. Rahul Gandhi is way behind — just 7% back him. India Inc's leaders are sending two clear and separate messages — one on national leadership and another on politics. The first is this: After a long policy drought, CEOs are impatient for strong leadership, intent, decisions and action. Modi, they seem to think, has more to show than Gandhi on all these counts. But India Inc's big vote for Modi, this survey also suggests, is not necessarily an endorsement of his politics, but only a thumbs-up for his leadership. While 74% believe Modi will be a better PM than Gandhi, 58% are fine with either a Congress or BJP government as long as it's stable. And that's the second message: leadership and stability matter more than party colours. I wonder who are these 7% :giggle:
Clarke Posted September 6, 2013 Posted September 6, 2013 ^^ All seculars. Around 3/4th of the businessmen are supporters of fascism.
diga Posted September 6, 2013 Posted September 6, 2013 ^^ All seculars. Around 3/4th of the businessmen are supporters of fascism. What do they know of India, who only India know? ps: with apologies to Kipling & Fekus
The Outsider Posted September 6, 2013 Posted September 6, 2013 Wow, businessmen support Modi overwhelmingly. Now that's a surprise! On one hand you have a government passing a law so that land owners can get proper prices and redress for land they legally own, and on the other hand you have a government who kicks out 5000 farmers from the land they are legally entitled to. Should be pretty obvious which one the businessmen will choose, no?
diga Posted September 6, 2013 Posted September 6, 2013 Wow, businessmen support Modi overwhelmingly. Now that's a surprise! On one hand you have a government passing a law so that land owners can get proper prices and redress for land they legally own, and on the other hand you have a government who kicks out 5000 farmers from the land they are legally entitled to. Should be pretty obvious which one the businessmen will choose, no? yeah... when you have a govt doling out freebies, by squeezing out the tax paying public, its no surprise the kind of govt the common man wants
Crookbond Posted September 6, 2013 Posted September 6, 2013 yeah... when you have a govt doling out freebies' date=' by squeezing out the tax paying public, [b']its no surprise the kind of govt the common man wants Businessmen are common men now!
diga Posted September 6, 2013 Posted September 6, 2013 Businessmen are common men now! Sarcasm ... Congress & common man??
Crookbond Posted September 6, 2013 Posted September 6, 2013 Sarcasm ... Congress & common man?? Common man does not want a corrupt government but they also do not want a fascist government either. We're essentially spoilt for choice.
Clarke Posted September 6, 2013 Posted September 6, 2013 Common man does not want a corrupt government but they also do not want a fascist government either. We're essentially spoilt for choice. Enlighten us, which govt is that ?
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