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It will be tough for India and it will very tough for Sachin fans like me i grew up watching Sachin dismantling best bowling attacks the euphoria adulation the fan worship i have never seen that for any player. He is my sporting idol.

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And to add on to it, when fans call him God. It reinforces the western genralising often patronising view point that Indians have pagan belief systems, wherein they worship anything and everything as gods. In one quick act of jovial yet mis communicated hero worship , sachin fans betray their ignorance in social skils,hyperbole bordering on lack of class, and acute inability to use proper adjectives in English.

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i will start watching rajya sabha channel
FIFY :--D anyway i wasnt a great sachin fan, it wouldnt matter too much to me, but for me watching test cricket sans dravid would be very different :((.. i was a ganguly fan, but still watch cricket with great enthusiasm even without even.. nothing to worry folks :dance:
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And to add on to it' date=' when fans call him God. It reinforces the western genralising often patronising view point that Indians have pagan belief systems, wherein they worship anything and everything as gods. In one quick act of jovial yet mis communicated hero worship , sachin fans betray their ignorance in social skils,hyperbole bordering on lack of class, and acute inability to use proper adjectives in English.[/quote']I'd argue pagan worship is a much higher form of worship and more encompassing than Abrahamic forms of worship Edit - And there is absolutely nothing wrong in hero-worshiping entities. It is just a personalized connection that individuals have with their articles of worship/adulation. The article of worship/adulation becomes a source of inspiration for them.
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Yeah i can't imagine how i'll watch cricket, those tours of Eng & Aus will be missed by all cricket fans. Seriously though, cricket has seen dare i say bigger retirements in the previous decade, Warne & Murali for instance. These guys set new bowling benchmarks and were a joy to watch.

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I used to feel the same before Kapil retired. In fact I had a precursor to Kapil when Gavaskar retired and we were found wanting immediately against WI in the 87-88 series. Gavaskar's void was not filled until Viru came on board and succeeded. I had moist eyes watching the retirements of Jumbo and Dada. But somehow knowing that Sachin was around I wasn't down for any extended period of time. But I have missed Kumble much more than Gavaskar or Kapil. I was indifferent when Rahul called it a day. If India does bad then I will surely miss him. But when Sachin leaves I'll definitely cry...but I won't stop watching cricket. Will I miss him? You betcha and it wouldn't matter how well India was performing

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I'd argue pagan worship is a much higher form of worship and more encompassing than Abrahamic forms of worship Edit - And there is absolutely nothing wrong in hero-worshiping entities. It is just a personalized connection that individuals have with their articles of worship/adulation. The article of worship/adulation becomes a source of inspiration for them.
Pagan worship is more encompassing surely it includes the masses into a belief system, but India is getting typecasted as pagan believers while the high philosophy of indian releigions are overlooked. Anyway not to digress, my point is heroworship is understandable but idolising and naming them god ( not in style but in seriousness) of something or erecting a temple for them is a forced culture in India and shows India as a backward ancient nation. We are not the ancient greeks.
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Pagan worship is more encompassing surely it includes the masses into a belief system' date=' but India is getting typecasted as pagan believers while the high philosophy of indian releigions are overlooked.[/quote']Do not want to digress either but you need to understand what pagan worship is first giving the impression that pagan worship is alien to India. Vedic way of life and almost all Sanatana Dharma philosophies (except Buddhism and Advaitya) are pagan. Even they are pagan to a certain extent. Pagan means worship of mother nature...what are the vedas if not worship of various forces of nature including (but not limited to) thunder, rain, fire, water, different animals, mountains, trees, etc?
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Do not want to digress either but you need to understand what pagan worship is first giving the impression that pagan worship is alien to India. Vedic way of life and almost all Sanatana Dharma philosophies (except Buddhism and Advaitya) are pagan. Even they are pagan to a certain extent. Pagan means worship of mother nature...what are the vedas if not worship of various forces of nature including (but not limited to) thunder, rain, fire, water, different animals, mountains, trees, etc? What is wrong in that? That is how human civilizations have been through out and there is nothing wrong with it. All the "gods" are basically great heroes / exceptional human beings. Even modern scientists also have this hero-worship going. Einstein is no less than a god...and I have no qualms about it. Individuals find inspiration in various sources. Why should one source of inspiration become a standard? If you do not find inspiration or do not hold Sachin in as high esteem as say Gautama Buddha or Jesus Christ then that is your way of life. For someone else he may think that Sachin is the real epitome of batting like the god (or as I say, Buddha) of batting. Why is it wrong or any less civilized/intelligent than any other form of adulation?
Where have i given you that impression ? I dont recall ever saying that pagan beliefs are not indegenous to India. All i am saying is India is not unidimensional pagan culture where nature is almighty and every non conformal entity needs to be idolised as against understood, there is high philosophy in india, Indian religions are not like for instance arabic ( honor shame paradigm) but a karmic 'sin and redemption' paradigm. There are inherant weakness' in honor shame scales and pagan system, the former exploits weak and the latter dumbs down the society into accepting legends, the extreem negative cases are vampirism, witch hunting,tantric bull crap etc. I can go on, i really do not want to though. I am saying, calling a sport person 'god' in all seriousness, is pretty uncultured. I definitly do not want to continue this discussion, as i prefer being an obnoxius memeing brat here.
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What is wrong in that? That is how human civilizations have been through out and there is nothing wrong with it. All the "gods" are basically great heroes / exceptional human beings. Even modern scientists also have this hero-worship going. Einstein is no less than a god...and I have no qualms about it. Individuals find inspiration in various sources. Why should one source of inspiration become a standard? If you do not find inspiration or do not hold Sachin in as high esteem as say Gautama Buddha or Jesus Christ then that is your way of life. For someone else he may think that Sachin is the real epitome of batting like the god (or as I say, Buddha) of batting. Why is it wrong or any less civilized/intelligent than any other form of adulation?
Do you see any recognised scientist calling Einstein 'God' that too in a serious sense like sachin fans do ?. I accept that in ancient times great humans were often called 'gods' since they seemed to have unfathomably higher ability either physically or intellectually. As a matter of fact i remember reading some author speculating that had Gandhi been born a few hundred years earlier he would have been made into a 'god' like Buddha and Mahaveer. I maintain calling a sport person 'God' is uncultured, hero workshipping is ok.
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Sachin is a personal hero but the game is bigger than him. He should have gone more than year or do back. So, I would welcome his decision to quit. Current Sachin wouldn't make an iota of difference to world cricket. Last 1 year has eaten a lot into great man's legacy.

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