Ultimate_Game Posted July 22, 2012 Author Share Posted July 22, 2012 thats wht im saying ..only way he is gonna improve is rhythm is by playing matches and i disagree in australia in tests he did quite well in first test.. was bad in next one but tht was expected was brilliant in 3rd and 4th test was absolute was gain average in odis yes he was average so he is not completely all or nothing .. he actually kept on improving compare his bowling against england to wht he was bowling in tests even here do u think our any other quick bowler owuld have been decent after ball lost its shine ? ok lets do one thing give him this series if he still bowls crap then ur correct ..if he keeps on improving then maybe i have a point i wont mind playng dinda actually he is pretty good death bowler so biggie any one but vinay :P I don't know man. It's quite frustrating to hear all this hype around a bowler who can't even bowl on the same spot 2 balls in a row and gets taken to cleaners by a tailender like Malinga :facepalm: I have seen Indian bowlers over the years and I am not expecting a Wasim Akram or Ambros. But surely if such hype is there for a bowler is it wong to at least expect a Hilfenhaus or a Nathan Bracken? The only thing I want is for an intl bowler to be consistent in his line & length by at the very least bowl 6 balls in an over on a good length spot on or around off for majority of the innings, and at the death shown enough brains to keep it full & bowl yorkers when the asking rate is around 12-14 and batsmen are going for broke. I am sorry to say I was disappointed as I had hoped he would have learnt from Aussie tour (CB series) and IPL by keeping it tight initially and maybe bowling full at the death. Don't know about you but I didn't see any improvement at all - either in his bowling or his thought process - which is a matter of concern. Link to comment
Old guy Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 I don't know man. It's quite frustrating to hear all this hype around a bowler who can't even bowl on the same spot 2 balls in a row and gets taken to cleaners by a tailender like Malinga :facepalm: I have seen Indian bowlers over the years and I am not expecting a Wasim Akram or Ambros. But surely if such hype is there for a bowler is it wong to at least expect a Hilfenhaus or a Nathan Bracken? The only thing I want is for an intl bowler to be consistent in his line & length by at the very least bowl 6 balls in an over on a good length spot on or around off for majority of the innings, and at the death shown enough brains to keep it full & bowl yorkers when the asking rate is around 12-14 and batsmen are going for broke. I am sorry to say I was disappointed as I had hoped he would have learnt from Aussie tour (CB series) and IPL by keeping it tight initially and maybe bowling full at the death. Don't know about you but I didn't see any improvement at all - either in his bowling or his thought process - which is a matter of concern. give him new ball and will see wht he learnt form tests but just give him atleast 2 more matches then judge his progress its difficult for fast bowlers man playing after long time or jsut give him 1 more game :mad: also i think some one like aaron will be much better odi bowler then him atleast for the job he is doing now a days Link to comment
Gunner Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 Umesh's pace also seems to have dropped...he was crossing 150ks regularly in Australia, but today he failed to hit even 140. Link to comment
Old guy Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 Umesh's pace also seems to have dropped...he was crossing 150ks regularly in Australia' date=' but today he failed to hit even 140.[/quote'] its def rhythm even in ipl he was very quick Link to comment
Clarke Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 Very high expectations ? He's a kid at international level with 16 odis under his belt. Link to comment
ravishingravi Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 His first game in new season and he needs to be dropped. Give him another game or two. Even then, there is no freaking way that India can afford to drop this rare bowling talent by our standards. People forget that he is still young at the top. He needs to be groomed. He is a the future. Make no mistake about. God forbid, he falls into that infamous list of great bowling talents who just dissipiated after showing their potential along with likes of I Pathan I Sharma Agarkar Balaji Munaf to some extent 4 of them could be brisk to quick and swing it. It is so sad for Indian cricket that all of them fell apart for various reasons. Balaji and Irfan bowled as well as any duo I have seen for India on their tour to Pakistan. We need to invest time in Yadav. I dont have much faith in Aaron. Link to comment
JaFanatic Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 So i got it we have steyn's malinga's brett lee's anderson's clones waiting in the wings then why should we need to groom this umesh? you guys are right Link to comment
CG Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 its def rhythm even in ipl he was very quick speed guns Link to comment
rkt.india Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 Umesh's pace also seems to have dropped...he was crossing 150ks regularly in Australia' date=' but today he failed to hit even 140.[/quote'] speed guns crap. Even Malinga didnt cross 140 according to speed guns. Link to comment
bajrang Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 malinga did cross 140, umesh in later over did bowl 140, but was changing the pace a lot. still first game after long break. maybe didnt go full out. Link to comment
Sidhoni Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 We are expecting too much maybe Give him some time, he has been coming off a long break. Even Zak was expensive yesterday. And the fielders didn't help the cause either. Link to comment
asterix Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 He should've kept out of ODIs... Dhoni was taking his 'class' right there on the field after the last over. Yaddu is best suited for test matches.. Link to comment
Baasir Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 Lol. This guys was hyped so much as if you have unearthed another styen. I do not see anything special in him. Regarding pace... He cant even hit 140 kph. Link to comment
cameron_black Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 well look on the bright side guys. before this match yadav only had 2 wkts v SL in 4 matches at an avg of 113. but now he has 4 wkts v SL in 5 matches at an avg of 75.5 and an econ of 6.71. he's improving clearly. Link to comment
JaFanatic Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 Lol. This guys was hyped so much as if you have unearthed another styen. I do not see anything special in him. Regarding pace... He cant even hit 140 kph.he did hit 140 instead of worrying for him you should think about your own bowlers prof. they even struggle to hit 130s Link to comment
JaFanatic Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 well look on the bright side guys. before this match yadav only had 2 wkts v SL in 4 matches at an avg of 113. but now he has 4 wkts v SL in 5 matches at an avg of 75.5 and an econ of 6.71. he's improving clearly. yea definitely better than your greatest ever bowler malliga:hysterical: Link to comment
Hell Raiser Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 Yadav is still a rookie at this level and deserves more chances. But IMO he is more suited to test cricket than ODI's. Aaron if fit can be our spearhead in ODI's and Yadav in test matches in the coming years. Aaron needs to work really hard on his fitness. Link to comment
jj_28 Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 Zaheer and Yadav looked rusty more than anything Irfan was brilliant but even should get better as the series progresses Link to comment
SLICKR392 Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 Zaheer and Yadav looked rusty more than anything Irfan was brilliant but even should get better as the series progresses Zak looked really rusty but he still managed to pwn Tharanga and Sanga every now and then. Link to comment
Crookbond Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 Very high expectations ? He's a kid at international level with 16 odis under his belt. +1 One thing I like about him is that he's not looking to contain - all he wants is to attack and pick up wickets. Yes it will cost a few runs but I don't remember such a bowler to play for India (Agarkar perhaps comes close?). I would keep him the way he is and he should learn. Good attacking bowlers have all had difficult and expensive starts to their careers. Link to comment
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