Magneto Posted November 29, 2012 Posted November 29, 2012 On a serious note, this is probably the bit of luck Tiwary needed to turn his career around. Since KT has trashed him, he'll probably be selected for the Australia series and may have a good run
Trichromatic Posted November 29, 2012 Posted November 29, 2012 if selectors looked at FC numbers,Yuvi n Raina would never hv played test cricket Yeah, a player averaging 40 in Indian domestic cricket can't do well at in tests.
India-KXIP fan Posted November 29, 2012 Posted November 29, 2012 @OP, the selectors already know this :nice: /thread
SLICKR392 Posted November 29, 2012 Posted November 29, 2012 ^ Nor is Mainduck Mandeep!! Rahane & Rohit has better technique in Tests.
mr cricket Posted November 29, 2012 Posted November 29, 2012 We should still give him a chance to see how he goes.
Sachin=GOD Posted November 29, 2012 Posted November 29, 2012 with his first class record he will surely get a chance in Tests sooner or later.
maniac Posted November 29, 2012 Posted November 29, 2012 Absolutely agree.....anyways he is below the pecking order in terms of slot openings......Rahane,Rohit....So he may have to wait a while and who knows someone else might emerge in between.
Magneto Posted November 29, 2012 Posted November 29, 2012 Absolutely agree.....anyways he is below the pecking order in terms of slot openings......Rahane' date='Rohit....So he may have to wait a while and who knows someone else might emerge in between.[/quote'] He is above Rohit in the pecking order ... Rohit wasn't picked for India A for the tour game and Tiwary was.
maniac Posted November 29, 2012 Posted November 29, 2012 He is above Rohit in the pecking order ... Rohit wasn't picked for India A for the tour game and Tiwary was. That is true....I mean I am not looking too much into the A squad picked for the tour game...if that is an indication of how the slots have opened up then looking at Raina and Vinny in the X1 means that they are still in the scheme of things. But all said...you might have a point here,but I still beleive he should be behind Rohit in the pecking order,given how much we have invested him in the last 4-5 years.
Magneto Posted November 29, 2012 Posted November 29, 2012 That is true....I mean I am not looking too much into the A squad picked for the tour game...if that is an indication of how the slots have opened up then looking at Raina and Vinny in the X1 means that they are still in the scheme of things. But all said...you might have a point here,but I still beleive he should be behind Rohit in the pecking order,given how much we have invested him in the last 4-5 years. The spot will anyway not open up before the South Africa series (and so on) ... by that time 10-15 ODIs would be played, and if Tiwary does well in those (provided he gets a chance), he might be ahead of Rohit and vice versa.
Eternal Atma Posted November 29, 2012 Posted November 29, 2012 Raina' date='Yuvi averaged in 40s even in FC.Tiwary averages 59.surely thats an indicator[/quote'] Yuvi's first class record includes many test matches. Without the test matches his average must be higher. Anyway it doesn't mean a thing. I am not sure if Tiwary will succeed in tests but he is more likely then proven failures like UV and Raina. I like the fact that he is willing to spend time at the crease and choose his strokes carefully. Initially I was worried he could only play leg side but he is a very calculating player.
Tendulkar_Bhai Posted November 29, 2012 Posted November 29, 2012 Nonsense to make such a statement when the guy has hardly been given a run in ODI's never mind having not played tests
King Tendulkar Posted November 29, 2012 Author Posted November 29, 2012 Nonsense to make such a statement when the guy has hardly been given a run in ODI's never mind having not played tests Its my observation from watching him bat. Odi player maybe but not tests. loved to be proved wrong though but doubt i will
Tendulkar_Bhai Posted November 29, 2012 Posted November 29, 2012 Its my observation from watching him bat. Odi player maybe but not tests. loved to be proved wrong though but doubt i will What in IPL? In WI he was our best batsman and got a 100 and in SL looked good as well. But given his age I cant see him making much long term impact, will always be a squad player like wes brown.
NareshK Posted November 29, 2012 Posted November 29, 2012 The spot will anyway not open up before the South Africa series (and so on) ... by that time 10-15 ODIs would be played' date=' and if Tiwary does well in those (provided he gets a chance), he might be ahead of Rohit and vice versa.[/quote'] ODIs and IPL cant be a benchmark for selection for tests. Only the performance in longer format games should matter. Even the selectors keep making this same mistake over and again and that's why they have failed in finding a solid No.6 batsman.
The Dark Horse Posted November 29, 2012 Posted November 29, 2012 Even I thought the same when he debuted in ODI and was bowled against Lee. But cant pass on such a judgement so early.
Sandeep99 Posted November 29, 2012 Posted November 29, 2012 Bring RG Sharma for T20s and Tests! Don't let him play ODIs for sometime!!!
Magneto Posted November 29, 2012 Posted November 29, 2012 ODIs and IPL cant be a benchmark for selection for tests. Only the performance in longer format games should matter. Even the selectors keep making this same mistake over and again and that's why they have failed in finding a solid No.6 batsman. Plenty of Indian cricketers have come into the Test side after performing well in ODIs. Performance in ODIs at least shows whether you are cut out for international cricket and can perform at that level. It still gives you a better idea about the calibre of cricketers than just domestic FC matches where plenty of cricketers have great averages on the basis of flat tracks and ordinary bowlers. A cricketer who has done well in ODIs and has a 50+ FC average should be a good candidate for selection in Test cricket. There'll always be exceptions though, like Pujara.
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