The Outsider Posted December 16, 2012 Posted December 16, 2012 Ishant had bowled 140 k to 148 k during his first international season. He dropped his pace to 130 to 142 k during his second and third season. He increased his pace again to 140 k to 148 k last season after competion from Umesh and Aaron' date=' his fastest being 152 k in Aus. [b']So, he can bowl around 145 k consistently. We have to remember that he is coming back from an operation. Where do you guys pull these absurd numbers out from. 145 kmph consistently? Are you serious? Lee's average bowling speed over a test used to be around that mark, to expect Ishant to replicate it is nuts.
rkt.india Posted December 16, 2012 Posted December 16, 2012 Where do you guys pull these absurd numbers out from. 145 kmph consistently? Are you serious? Lee's average bowling speed over a test used to be around that mark' date=' to expect Ishant to replicate it is nuts.[/quote'] not even Lee or Akhtar would not bowl 145k on average in a test. No bowler ever could keep an average speed of 90 mph for 20 overs a day.135-140k with good skills is a good pace for any in a test match.
CG Posted December 16, 2012 Posted December 16, 2012 not even Lee or Akhtar would bowl 145k on average in a test. No bowler ever could keep an average speed of 90 mph for 20 overs a day.135-140k with good skills is a good pace for any in a test match. True ,Lee average speed was more 138/139 in india.
rkt.india Posted December 16, 2012 Posted December 16, 2012 True ' date='Lee average speed was more 138/139 in india.[/quote'] I have only seen Akhtar clocking real express speeds in test cricket even up to 157k.
The Outsider Posted December 16, 2012 Posted December 16, 2012 not even Lee or Akhtar would not bowl 145k on average in a test. No bowler ever could keep an average speed of 90 mph for 20 overs a day.135-140k with good skills is a good pace for any in a test match. I don't pay all that much attention to speed guns, but from what I remember Lee in Australia '07-'08 could have been up to 145 average. But yeah it's rare even for a genuine quick like Lee to do it and completely unrealistic to expect Ishant to do it, which was the point I was making.
express bowling Posted December 16, 2012 Posted December 16, 2012 Where do you guys pull these absurd numbers out from. 145 kmph consistently? Are you serious? Lee's average bowling speed over a test used to be around that mark' date=' to expect Ishant to replicate it is nuts.[/quote'] Where did I say average speed in a test match ? Consistently touching 145 k would be like twice an over in a couple of spells or more in a test match innings or bowling 4 deliveries or so per over in t20 match. I am distinguishing between just one or two 145 k deliveries per innings and bowling quite a few such deliveries consistently. The average speed in tests is in most cases in the 130 s.
msb1991 Posted December 20, 2012 Posted December 20, 2012 One poor T20 on a flat pitch is not enough to write him off though, that much can be said for sure.
coffee_rules Posted December 20, 2012 Posted December 20, 2012 Why did Dhoni give it to a debutant on the last over? But the guy didn't show much talent either. Ganguly was talking up Dinda quite a bit.
Old guy Posted December 20, 2012 Posted December 20, 2012 wht talent were u expecting to see in 2 overs? :hmmm: that too in t20...on flat track? more over gy was picked based on wickets he picked in first class game...should be picked for tests first
express bowling Posted December 20, 2012 Posted December 20, 2012 Did he bowl badly or was he at the receiving end of some good batting ? What were his speeds like ?
Old guy Posted December 20, 2012 Posted December 20, 2012 Did he bowl badly or was he at the receiving end of some good batting ? What were his speeds like ? speed was fine hit 140 k he is not 120k tundler by any means can be good bowler for us in tests and honestly he was given last over on debut wht did people expected? :hmmm:
express bowling Posted December 20, 2012 Posted December 20, 2012 speed was fine hit 140 k he is not 120k tundler by any means can be good bowler for us in tests and honestly he was given last over on debut wht did people expected? :hmmm: Last over to a debutant ! Dhoni's captaincy is going down the drain.
Old guy Posted December 20, 2012 Posted December 20, 2012 Last over to a debutant ! Dhoni's captaincy is going down the drain. also selection.. he picked 5 wickets in row in first class matches and wasnt selected i think he bowls at good length and can swing ball at goodish pace (atleast edges would carry! :hysterical:) selecting him here in t20 and i hope people dont judge him from this these things happen give him long run and if he consistently fails then drop him this giving 1 match to youngster is destroying indian cricket imo
Trundler27 Posted December 20, 2012 Posted December 20, 2012 Awana is much much better than the crap we have tried in the past like aravind, veenie, and even ishant...... Is it fair to criticize him for getting hit for 2 sixers in the very last over of a t20?? Absolutely not.... one of them was an outrageous shot 'dilscoop' and the other was a rank bad ball (length ball that was carted straight back over awana's head). I bet even ashwin could have easily gone for that much in the last over (he actually got hit for 2 sixers in his last over as well) Dinda got lucky in his last over with some mishits as he bowled a few length deliveries as well.... so Awana has done no harm to his reputation in this cameo appearance when we all know that the captain doesn't like seamers in home conditions one bit
JaFanatic Posted December 20, 2012 Posted December 20, 2012 bowled 3rd and 20th over hard for a debutant to impress with kinda opportunity
express bowling Posted December 20, 2012 Posted December 20, 2012 From what I have seen of Awana in the IPL, he is a real effort bowler and I liked him. He attacks the stumps at pace and did not spray the ball much.
Old guy Posted December 20, 2012 Posted December 20, 2012 he is good bowler..given good conditions he can do well but honestly pankaj singh is better bowler then him and he should be in team but compared to filth we tried before him i dont have problem ..he deserves it he picked wickets and in tests can do well away from home
JaFanatic Posted December 20, 2012 Posted December 20, 2012 he is good bowler..given good conditions he can do well but honestly pankaj singh is better bowler then him and he should be in team but compared to filth we tried before him i dont have problem ..he deserves it he picked wickets and in tests can do well away from home :agree:he should be our test bowler along with umesh
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