Old guy Posted January 20, 2013 Posted January 20, 2013 :blink: dont think even many commies know about it:(( cricketers learn it by practice not science:winky:
Lord Posted January 20, 2013 Posted January 20, 2013 cricketers learn it by practice not science:winky: havent seen any of them talk about air pressure,magnus force etc:dontknow:
Old guy Posted January 20, 2013 Posted January 20, 2013 havent seen any of them talk about air pressure' date='magnus force etc:dontknow:[/quote'] thts explanation lol many of them didnt knew why it swings more when there are clouds.. criketers learn it with practice ..no one taught them science behind it they just know how to do it
CG Posted January 20, 2013 Posted January 20, 2013 hold its line will do no harm because batsmen can only play for inswing and outswing wont even make him play the ball. It will do enough damage as batsman will play for inswing and even slightest movement will allow for edges .Also he cans wing it away also.If he gets to 135-140ks he will be good bowler.
Lord Posted January 20, 2013 Posted January 20, 2013 thts explanation lol many of them didnt knew why it swings more when there are clouds.. criketers learn it with practice ..no one taught them science behind it they just know how to do it I was also taking like a cricketer then,not scientist:--D
rkt.india Posted January 20, 2013 Posted January 20, 2013 come on its not that bad already' date='just needs bit of adjustment imo[/quote'] he already bowls a lot wide of the crease.
rkt.india Posted January 20, 2013 Posted January 20, 2013 It will do enough damage as batsman will play for inswing and even slightest movement will allow for edges .Also he cans wing it away also.If he gets to 135-140ks he will be good bowler. yaar batsman will play for inswing yes but ball will only take edge if ot is closer to the stumps. 135-140, he is not bowling that quick yet so cannot say. thing is when he bowls inswing, it is at the stumps, but outswing is mostly very wide.
LegSlip Posted January 20, 2013 Posted January 20, 2013 yaar batsman will play for inswing yes but ball will only take edge if ot is closer to the stumps. 135-140' date=' he is not bowling that quick yet so cannot say. thing is when he bowls inswing, it is at the stumps, but outswing is mostly very wide.[/quote'] Since he has that big inswinger, if the delivery starts close to the stumps it's obvious to the batsman that it's going to be an outswinger. That's the reason he bowls his outswingers well wide of off-stump - to keep the batsman in doubt.
Vilander Posted January 20, 2013 Posted January 20, 2013 :blink: dont think even many commies know about it:(( swing is based on one side of the ball being smoother than the other, thats why pak greats used screws and bottle caps to make one side rough and that why afritard likes to bite the ball. :cantstop: smoother side has less friction so the ball swings in the other side and after pitching and deviating it would seam and swing on the other..
1983-2011 Posted January 20, 2013 Posted January 20, 2013 none, they dont bowl 150 kph :phashthballingbrigade:
Lord Posted January 20, 2013 Posted January 20, 2013 swing is based on one side of the ball being smoother than the other, thats why pak greats used screws and bottle caps to make one side rough and that why afritard likes to bite the ball. :cantstop: smoother side has less friction so the ball swings in the other side and after pitching and deviating it would seam and swing on the other.. That is reverse swing,no?
Vilander Posted January 20, 2013 Posted January 20, 2013 That is reverse swing' date='no?[/quote'] no that is conventional swing explaination...reverse swing is just when the rough side is so rough (as ball is old) that is turns around completely mid swing and starts swinging in the other direction but the ball is fast enough to finish the reverse swinging delivery...
Vilander Posted January 20, 2013 Posted January 20, 2013 ^^ and that is why when someone reverse swings a ball when it is not wet in under 15 overs ( read padosies :cantstop:) or so then you would have to check his pockets for bottle caps..
yoda Posted January 20, 2013 Posted January 20, 2013 BK is the real deal. Expect him to have a long career.
express bowling Posted January 20, 2013 Posted January 20, 2013 BK is the real deal. Expect him to have a long career. I truly hope that he does, because he is taking wickets. His advantage is that he gets seam movement and zip off the pitch, along with swing and hence is not a one trick pony.
Old guy Posted January 20, 2013 Posted January 20, 2013 vilander...how do u explain swing with brand new ball? which is totally smooth from both sides ?
The Dark Horse Posted January 21, 2013 Posted January 21, 2013 Both are good, BK is less pacy and has more swing while SA is more pacy with less swing. IMO, if they are somewhat accurate with good fitness they can both develop into good bowlers.
King Tendulkar Posted January 21, 2013 Posted January 21, 2013 BK after 20 overs could be trundle city. Look at crpathan. Everyone goes ga ga over his hatrick against pak but that sums up limitation of slow seamers in tests. He took the hatrick and then did jack for the rest of the innings when new ball got older and swing went. But if you get pace, it can do damge with older ball. And with reverse at pace later on , it is also effective. Can BK do reverse?
Lord Posted January 21, 2013 Posted January 21, 2013 BK after 20 overs could be trundle city. Look at crpathan. Everyone goes ga ga over his hatrick against pak but that sums up limitation of slow seamers in tests. He took the hatrick and then did jack for the rest of the innings when new ball got older and swing went. But if you get pace, it can do damge with older ball. And with reverse at pace later on , it is also effective. Can BK do reverse? Irfan was nly a swing bowler,and he swung the ball only one way.still he has done okay in helpful conditions n won a test in Aus. BK has more going for him.swings it both ways n also seams the ball.I'd rather have such bowler than fast Ishant who cant bowl two consecutive deliveries in right place
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