Raghav_12 Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 But they dont!!! So wtf are you going on about. Enemies within the border seem to be the pc brigade, desperate to put india on same level as pakis. We are superirior in everyway possible, so just deal with it chumps Don't you have any sarchasm detector man or you still in euphoria of realization that "Jadeja is actually a good ODI player" :winky: I am not hugely concerned that he labelled BJP as organizer of terrorist camps but I am shocked to see that Hon'ble home minister is making such loose statement. Now somebody tell him that, as home minister of country why don't you clamp down on these camps and get BJP banned.
King Tendulkar Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 Don't you have any sarchasm detector man or you still in euphoria of realization that "Jadeja is actually a good ODI player" :winky: I am not hugely concerned that he labelled BJP as organizer of terrorist camps but I am shocked to see that Hon'ble home minister is making such loose statement. Now somebody tell him that, as home minister of country why don't you clamp down on these camps and get BJP banned.:giggle:
JaFanatic Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 "OFF TOPIC" why boring ' date=' dont u have any experiences like others. :--D[/quote'] like ur post is on topic......why should i have to go after an auntie to flirt with:facepalm:
KeyboardWarrior Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 like ur post is on topic......why should i have to go after an auntie to flirt with:facepalm: LOL :hysterical:
Asim Posted January 22, 2013 Author Posted January 22, 2013 Shinde's remark on 'Hindu terrorism' based on facts: Khurshid http://www.indiatimes.com/india/shindes-remark-on-hindu-terrorism-based-on-facts-khurshid-56770.html New Delhi, Jan 22 (IANS) External Affairs Minister Salman Khurshid Tuesday backed Home Minister Sushilkumar Shinde's "Hindu terror" comments, saying what he had said was "based on facts" as revealed by investigative agencies. "Our stated position is based entirely on facts as the investigative agencies have made available to the government... Attempts to divert attention and to push it in a particular and premeditated direction by some people is repudiated by the information that is available," Khurshid told reporters. "We have categorically said many times that any form of violence that is propagated by extremists of any kind, irrespective of religion, is what is dangerous for the country, terror does not have a religion," he added. He also said that "religion should not be associated with terror, it is terror that we are fighting and those are the facts available... We should not be distracted by a phrase, the determination is what that matters". Shinde had referred to "Hindu terrorism" and "saffron terrorism" during the Congress conclave in Jaipur Sunday. "After investigations, we have seen that be it the BJP or the RSS (Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh), their training camps are promoting Hindu terrorism. This is a matter of concern. We are keeping a strict eye on it," Shinde had said in his speech. The minister later clarified that he had only stated what has been appearing in the media and his reference was to "saffron terrorism". The BJP has reacted very strongly to Shinde's statement and demanded he be sacked and an apology from Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and Congress chief Sonia Gandhi.
Desi Cartman Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 And Pakistan has a problem with it, why ? Islamist country has an issue with another countries religious hardliners
dial_100 Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 Khurshid says: terror does not have a religion' date='" he added. .[/quote'] Very true. terror cannot have religion... But in this case, it does :yay:
nikred Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 what is "saffron terrorism" btw? Adding excessive colourig to your chicken biryani to invoke shock, surprise and dissappointment. :((
Clarke Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 what is "saffron terrorism" btw? Those hindu babas/extremists wear saffron clothing, looks like orange.
Clarke Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 Dear Siri Sri Shi Shriman Shinde saheb, Subject: I love you Initially I wrote you off as another RAW agent but how mistaken I was. As far as I am concerned, you are our man in New Delhi. I was initially veering towards befriending Diggy Raja but you sir are miles ahead of him in making loony, nonsensical statements and hence our wavelengths match. I have also come to know that you are highly cultured and always refer to me with even more respect that even the Pakistani government accords to me. So please accept my hand of friendship (and also friend request on Facebook). We were planning to spend over Rs.1 crore on anti-India propaganda but that one gem of a statement of yours has obviated the need for that. It will be of some satisfaction to you that we have instead diverted the money towards training and recruitment. For that alone, you deserve the Nishan-e-Pakistan, PakistanÃÔ highest civilian award. IÃ×e instructed my man, General Kayani, to initiate the process in this regard. Shinde saheb, now it is imperative that we join forces and convince the world about the dangers posed to the world by Hindu terrorism and the existential threat to Pakistan from India. Let me assure you that Pakistan will do its best to counter fire with fire. It would be great if you make more such statements so that we can pull our troops from the Af-Pak quagmire to where they belong: the Indo-Pak border. On a personal note, begum and I look forward to hosting you at Muridke soon. You must visit our training camps too to learn of the steps we are taking to screw your nation defend ourselves. Yours affectionately, Hafeez PS: Two of my boys are coming over to Delhi to carry out some er missions. Can they stay over at your cozy Lutyens bungalow? The thing is, with runaway inflation in your country, ISI is finding it difficult to print Indian currency and rental rates in Delhi are so high. I know this is a bit much but I feel I can count on your support. http://www.theunrealtimes.com/2013/01/22/hafiz-saeed-writes-love-letter-to-home-minister-shinde-promises-to-confer-nishan-e-pakistan-on-him/ :hysterical:
Crookbond Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 The answer is somewhere in between - Neither is RSS a "terror group" nor are they the next best thing to "Mother Teresa". They can be despicable as well as loving depending on when/where they want political mileage.
surajmal Posted January 24, 2013 Posted January 24, 2013 True Lies of Sushil Kumar Shinde ŵhe RSS and the BJP were behind the Samjhauta Express, Mecca Masjid and Malegaon blasts, declared Union Home Minister Sushil Kumar Shinde on January 20, 2012, adding that the training camps run by the RSS and BJP were promoting éindu terrorism? A day after ShindeÃÔ declaration, Hafiz Saeed, leader of the LeT, the Pakistan-based Islamist terrorist outfit, called for a ban on the RSS. So Shinde is the witness for the LeT to accuse the RSS of terror. Now look at the evidence, first the blast onboard the Samjhauta Express from Pakistan in which 68 persons were killed. LeT Culprit, say UN, US Ųasmani Arif...chief coordinator of the relations of the [LeT] with other organisations...has worked with Lashkar-e-Tayyiba to facilitate terrorist attacks including...the bombing of February 2007 in the Samjhauta Express in Panipat (India). This is what resolution [No 1267] of the Committee on Sanctions of the United Nations Security Council [uNSC] dated 29.6.2009 declares. Adding that Qasmani was funded by Dawood Ibrahim and he did the fundraising for the LeT and the al-Qaida, the UNSC said, Ūn exchange for their support, al-Qaida provided support staff for the February 2007 bombing of the Samjhauta Express in Panipat. This resolution is available on the UN site. Two days later, on July 1, 2009, the United States Treasury Department said in its press release: Å¢rif Qasmani has worked with the LeT to facilitate terrorist attacks, including...Samjota Express bombing. The US named four Pakistanis, including Arif Qasmani as terrorists, under Executive Order No 13224. This press release is still on the US Treasury site. The United Nations Security Council and the US Treasury Department thus named the LeT, Qasmani and Dawood Ibrahim as accused in Samjhauta terror. This is just the beginning of the torrent of evidence pointing to the LeT and Pakistan. Pakistan MinisterÃÔ Confession Six months after the UN and US announced sanctions against the LeT and Qasmani, Pakistan Interior Minister Rehman Mallik himself admitted that Pakistani terrorists were involved in the Samjhauta blast, but with a rider that ÅÔome Pakistan-based Islamists had been hired by Lt Col Purohit to carry out the Samjhauta Express attack. [india Today Online 24.1.2010] Headley Involved in Samjhauta -- US Probe Not just the UN. Or the US Treasury. Or just the admission of PakistanÃÔ Interior Minister. Independent investigation in the US revealed more. Some 10 months later, Sebastian Rotella, a US journalist, wrote in his investigative report titled ö.S. agencies were forewarned about suspect in 2008 Mumbai bombings? that Faiza Outalha, the third wife of David Coleman Headley had confessed [in 2008, which was made public in 2010] that Headley was involved in the Samjhauta blast. Rotella added that Faiza felt that ÅÔhe had been innocently used in the Samjhauta terror. [The Washington Post 5.11.2010] A while later, in a follow up investigation, Sebastian Rotella disclosed in April 2008 that Faiza returned to the embassy in Islamabad with the tip about the 2008 Mumbai blast when she again linked him to the Samjhauta blast. Rotella commented that though India and the US blamed the attack on Lashkar, the US authorities had not implicated Headley in that still-unsolved attack, however.[The Washington Post 14.11.2010] So, independent, neutral probe in the US also pointed to Pakistan and the LeT in Samjhauta blast. Narco Test Pointed to SIMI Role Even at the start of the Samjhauta investigation in 2007, the evidence clearly pointed to the role of the Students Islamic Movement of India [sIMI] and the LeT. India Today [19.9.2008] in its report titled ñak hand in Mumbai train blasts, Samjhauta Express blasts, says Nagori gave meticulous account of the involvement of the LeT and Pakistan in the Samjhauta terror. The report was based on narco test testimonies of SIMI leaders. India Today said that the narcotic tests were carried out on general secretary of SIMI, Safdar Nagori; his brother Kamruddin Nagori and Amil Parvez in Bangalore in April 2007, three months after the Samjhauta blast; the results of the narco test of the SIMI leaders were available with the magazine; it revealed that SIMI activists had executed the Samjhauta blast, with the help of the Pakistani nationals from across the border; while Nagori was not directly involved, two members of SIMI, Ehtesham Siddiqui and Nasir, were directly involved; SIMI members, including NagoriÃÔ brother Kamaruddin, were involved in the Samjhatua blast; for executing the Samjhauta blast, the Pakistanis had purchased the suitcase cover from Kataria Market in Indore and one of the members from SIMI had helped the Pakistanis to get the suitcase cover stitched. Investigation had established that in the Samjhauta blast, five bombs packed in suitcases and activated by timer switches were used. Conspiracy by Maharashtra Police? Why were these clinching pieces of evidence not pursued? How the blame shifted from the Islamists to the Hindus? Some elements in the Maharashtra Police appears to have colluded in linking the 2008 Malegaon blast to the Samjhauta blast. When leads were thus pointing to Pakistan and SIMI as partners in the Samjhauta blast in November 2008, as an anti-climax, the Maharashtra Anti-Terror Squad [ATS] shockingly told the Special Court through the public prosecutor that Col Purohit allegedly involved in the Malegaon blast in which RDX was used, had supplied RDX for the Samjhauta blast though one ãhagwan? [The Indian Express 15.11.2008] Within the next 48 hours, [17.11.2009] India Today online refuted the ATS claim saying that Samjhauta investigators had told India Today that a study of the blast by the National Security Guard(NSG) said that no RDX, but Potassium Chlorate and Sulphur, had been used as explosives. The magazine also recalled that immediately after the blasts, then Union Home Minister Shivraj Patil told the media that not RDX, but, a ÃÃew type of explosive had been used to bomb the Samjhauta Express. On that very day [17.11.2009] the ATS counsel retracted the statement he had made earlier involving Col Purohit in the Samjhauta blast. [The Hindu dt19.11.2008]. But the damage was done in the 48 hours. Immediately, Pakistan said that it would raise the issue of PurohitÃÔ involvement in Samjhauta at the Secretary-level meeting on November 25, 2008. Finally on January 20, 2009, the Maharashtra ATS officially denied that Col Purohit had supplied RDX for Samjhauta. This was how the Samjhauta focus -- later the blame -- shifted from the LeT and the SIMI to Purohit and via Purohit on to Saffron. The Maharashtra ATS attempt to link Malegaon 2008 to Samjhauta, which shifted the focus away from the LeT on to Purohit, needs to be probed particularly given Dawood IbrahimÃÔ deep influence on Maharashtra Police. If Shinde is telling the truth, then the United Nations Security Council and the US Treasury Department are fabricating charges against Qasmani, Dawood and the LeT; Faiza Outallah and The Washington Post are telling lies to fix the LeT and Pakistan; the SIMI officials narco evidence is fabricated; and Rehman MallikÃÔ confession about Pakistani involvement is false. Can it be more ridiculous? It is clearly the lies of Shinde, the vote bank politician versus all neutral evidence. If this was how the Samjhauta probe was perverted, in the Malegaon 2006 blast the Maharashtra ATS has filed a chargesheet where the SIMI cadre had confessed to their role in the blast. But the CBI is procuring confessions to exonerate them and implicate others, Hindus in the case. So Malegaon 2006, is becoming a case of confession vs confession! In Malegaon 2008 blasts, Col Purohit and his associates have been charged and the evidence submitted in the Court shows that the accused in the Malegaon 2008 case were planning to assassinate RSS chief Mohan Bhagwat and Indresh Kumar for taking money from the ISI! [Outlook 19.7.2010] How could the RSS which is the target of the conspirator itself be the conspirator? Does Shinde know what he is talking? QED: Shinde now has a good companion in his mission against the RSS in Hafeez Saeed, boss of the global terror outfit LeT. Can a Home Minister tell more deadly lies against his own countryÃÔ interests, all for just a few million votes? S Gurumurthy is a well-known commentator on political and economic issues. http://newindianexpress.com/opinion/article1432883.ece There you have it. Bogey of "Hindutva" terror raised to polarize the electorate further.
Clarke Posted January 24, 2013 Posted January 24, 2013 They shouldn't let the budget session proceed before that big mouth is fired.
diga Posted January 24, 2013 Posted January 24, 2013 Now another big mouth Digvijay Singh in NDTV - Mr Singh also played the Dalit card in defence of Mr Shinde asking whether BJP was trying to build this atmosphere "because they are not liking a Dalit Home Minister". WTF
CG Posted January 24, 2013 Posted January 24, 2013 http://www.theunrealtimes.com/2013/01/22/hafiz-saeed-writes-love-letter-to-home-minister-shinde-promises-to-confer-nishan-e-pakistan-on-him/ :hysterical: :hysterical::hysterical:
yoda Posted January 24, 2013 Posted January 24, 2013 http://www.theunrealtimes.com/2013/01/22/hafiz-saeed-writes-love-letter-to-home-minister-shinde-promises-to-confer-nishan-e-pakistan-on-him/ :hysterical: :nice:
someone Posted January 24, 2013 Posted January 24, 2013 This is exactly why I always say Pakistan should not be our first concern, we have enough enemies in our own land. Irrespective of your party preference, this issue should have one single answer which is of shock. It's one thing for an individual to have conspiracy theories but it's another thing when that individual is part of the key role in the ruling party. However, this isn't the first time, a ruling party member has said this. Even the so called future PM has said the same stuff. And definitely it will not be the last time that this would be said. It seems to be systemic ploy and really I don't see the rational behind this. I guess we must be the only country where the ruling government openly questions about the majority. Yet, again somehow they are still elected.
King Tendulkar Posted January 24, 2013 Posted January 24, 2013 http://www.theunrealtimes.com/2013/01/22/hafiz-saeed-writes-love-letter-to-home-minister-shinde-promises-to-confer-nishan-e-pakistan-on-him/ :hysterical: :hysterical:
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