Spiderguy252 Posted February 9, 2013 Posted February 9, 2013 He deserves better than Morkel at the other end, all said and done.
Precambrian Posted February 9, 2013 Posted February 9, 2013 I find Steyn's bowling a lot more enjoyable than watching anyone bat. It's like poetry in motion' date=' that's why I would rather watch Warne bowl for hours than watching a batsman make 1000 runs.[/quote'] I'd rather watch both... Steyn vs Sachin at Cape Town more than made up the entire investment I put in watching cricket for the year.
Ultimate_Game Posted February 9, 2013 Posted February 9, 2013 I'd rather watch both... Steyn vs Sachin at Cape Town more than made up the entire investment I put in watching cricket for the year. +10 There's nothing more exciting than watching a bowler in irrepressible form against a batsman at the top of his game. Usually you have one or the other. It's extremely rare for a bowler in red hot form come up against a quality bat. Steyn-Tendulkar, Waugh-Ambrose, Atherton-Donald (though Atherton was out early on but not given) is what makes cricket so special. Even the Tendulkar-Wasim/Waqar/Saqlain in Chennai test was special just as Gavaskar against Pak spinners was in mid 80s where Gavaskar scored 96. Unfortunately batting levels have dropped to such an alarming extent that hint of assistance for bowlers or a bowler in top form is enough to induce a collapse. No wonder we have seen 3 sub-50 scores in the last year and a half!!!
daryl1985 Posted February 10, 2013 Posted February 10, 2013 ...essentially a better version of Ishant? Have always thought this with regards to test match bowling. I think Morkel is the best limited overs bowler in the world.
Hafeez Posted February 10, 2013 Posted February 10, 2013 on strike rate only Waqar come close to steyn steyn and Waqar both have Same Ave in test but Steyn S/R bit better than Waqar in odi Waqar 414 wickets Ave-23 Steyn 95 wickets Ave-29
Trichromatic Posted February 10, 2013 Posted February 10, 2013 on strike rate only Waqar come close to steyn steyn and Waqar both have Same Ave in test but Steyn S/R bit better than Waqar in odi Waqar 414 wickets Ave-23 Steyn 95 wickets Ave-29 22.67 and 23.56 is same avg?
Marut Posted February 10, 2013 Posted February 10, 2013 +10 There's nothing more exciting than watching a bowler in irrepressible form against a batsman at the top of his game. Usually you have one or the other. It's extremely rare for a bowler in red hot form come up against a quality bat. Steyn-Tendulkar, Waugh-Ambrose, Atherton-Donald (though Atherton was out early on but not given) is what makes cricket so special. Even the Tendulkar-Wasim/Waqar/Saqlain in Chennai test was special just as Gavaskar against Pak spinners was in mid 80s where Gavaskar scored 96. Unfortunately batting levels have dropped to such an alarming extent that hint of assistance for bowlers or a bowler in top form is enough to induce a collapse. No wonder we have seen 3 sub-50 scores in the last year and a half!!! Batsmen don't seem patient these days. If batting is difficult, you have to tough it out, be choosy and hit only bad balls. But influence of T20 is making batsmen hit their way out of trouble, which will usually fail in a test match when the ball is talking.
Hafeez Posted February 10, 2013 Posted February 10, 2013 22.67 and 23.56 is same avg? Before Pakistan vs South africa series Waqar/Steyn Ave were same and Steyn S/R Was 42 Still Waqar younis is 2nd best fast bowler of all time behind Steyn if u take on Strike rate
Marut Posted February 10, 2013 Posted February 10, 2013 He deserves better than Morkel at the other end' date=' all said and done.[/quote'] Morkel is pretty good. He would get into any test side. Just that Steyn and Philander are so good that he appears a bit off color, like Gillespie was, while bowling alongside McGrath. Morkel keeps the pressure at one end, and makes the job of Steyn easier.
bharat297 Posted February 11, 2013 Posted February 11, 2013 Steyn has got just about every attribute you would want in a fast bowler. * Pace * Swing * Accuracy * Aggression * Ability to get big wickets * Ability to lift for big games His record is up there with the all time greats and he did so in an era of flatter pitches, heavier bats, extensive video analysis, and several batsman-friendly rules. I've also met him in person and he's a very humble and approachable person.
Old guy Posted February 11, 2013 Posted February 11, 2013 Steyn has got just about every attribute you would want in a fast bowler. * Pace * Swing * Accuracy * Aggression * Ability to get big wickets * Ability to lift for big games His record is up there with the all time greats and he did so in an era of flatter pitches, heavier bats, extensive video analysis, and several batsman-friendly rules. I've also met him in person and he's a very humble and approachable person. he is biggest reason to watch test cricket today..i think this shows how good he is and how much cricket needed a bowler like him:dance:
hhhhdmt Posted February 12, 2013 Posted February 12, 2013 steyn is terrific and he is already an ATG, no question. The only thing surprising is his performance vs england, if he can improve that, he can make a strong case for an all time top 3 position.
Old guy Posted February 12, 2013 Posted February 12, 2013 steyn is terrific and he is already an ATG' date=' no question. The only thing surprising is his performance vs england, if he can improve that, he can make a strong case for an all time top 3 position.[/quote'] first series vs eng he was rookie and in other 2 at some point in series he got injured .. and in last series he did well there is nothing surprising just bad luck that is why u dont trust stats blindly england have not played him better or worse they have just been lucky 2 times :--D
Clarke Posted February 19, 2013 Posted February 19, 2013 Did anyone else catch his spell in the last session on day 3 ? Unlike the first innings (low 130s) he rose to the occasion and bowled scorchers around ~150 kmph. There wasn't any seam/swing available but he still managed to get the best batsman in the opposition by unsettling him. Philly was the bowling hero on day 4 but the gun did his part in breaking the crucial Younis-Azhar partnership.
Old guy Posted February 19, 2013 Posted February 19, 2013 Did anyone else catch his spell in the last session on day 3 ? Unlike the first innings (low 130s) he rose to the occasion and bowled scorchers around ~150 kmph. There wasn't any seam/swing available but he still managed to get the best batsman in the opposition by unsettling him. Philly was the bowling hero on day 4 but the gun did his part in breaking the crucial Younis-Azhar partnership. Yep.. :--D
JaFanatic Posted February 19, 2013 Posted February 19, 2013 Did anyone else catch his spell in the last session on day 3 ? Unlike the first innings (low 130s) he rose to the occasion and bowled scorchers around ~150 kmph. There wasn't any seam/swing available but he still managed to get the best batsman in the opposition by unsettling him. Philly was the bowling hero on day 4 but the gun did his part in breaking the crucial Younis-Azhar partnership. yes i did he suddenly increased his pace when it seemed the pitch is not assisting him he is a complete package!
rkt.india Posted February 19, 2013 Author Posted February 19, 2013 Did anyone else catch his spell in the last session on day 3 ? Unlike the first innings (low 130s) he rose to the occasion and bowled scorchers around ~150 kmph. There wasn't any seam/swing available but he still managed to get the best batsman in the opposition by unsettling him. Philly was the bowling hero on day 4 but the gun did his part in breaking the crucial Younis-Azhar partnership. That was fantastic to see. He was superb in that spell. I though he has lost his ability to clock 150, but suddenly he upped the ante.
Old guy Posted February 19, 2013 Posted February 19, 2013 That was fantastic to see. He was superb in that spell. I though he has lost his ability to clock 150' date=' but suddenly he upped the ante.[/quote'] he is smart..how can u think he lost 150 k after seeing his spell in perth ? :D he can up the pace when needed ..and in south africa u dont need much pace 70 percent of the time imo
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