Vijay Appreciation thread.

[King Tendulkar]

1 match. And maybe he has learnt from that. Maybe improved, Have to see dont we, has to play. Or do you want him dropped?

[Cevno]

1 match. And maybe he has learnt from that. Maybe improved' date=' Have to see dont we, has to play. Or do you want him dropped?[/quote'] Well, we are stuck with him now like Pakistan were with Hafeez. Can't be dropped now. And he played ODI's there too and looked a dead duck. Atleast, Hafeez could bowl though and merited his initial selection.

[Cevno]

It will be akin to Raina getting selected for England series ahead of Pujara based on him gunning it in West Indies when he shouldn't have played in West Indies anyway.

[Lord]

Technically VIjay is excellent. Back foot, front foot and all round the wicket. He has a chance to do well overseas. Dhawan is more suspect

sure?

[rkt.india]

There was very little reverse if anything. Not sure why you are saying it was reversing all day ? Anyways, reverse is very different to conventional swing. Even Dhoni manages Reverse and Raina, Yuvraj too. For a opener you have to play both sides quick conventional swing.

If it was not reversing how Pujara got out then. A little reverse is enough to get a wicket. SRT was finding it hard to negotiate Henrique reverse swing coming in to him.

[Cevno]

If it was not reversing how Pujara got out then. A little reverse is enough to get a wicket. SRT was finding it hard to negotiate Henrique reverse swing coming in to him.

It is always easier for a set batsman to negotiate little reverse than a new batsman coming in. There was little and slow/low reverse for Henriques type bowlers like Nayar gets in domestic or Ganguly used too while SRT was struggling against turn too before lunch when he completely bunkered. Pujara was little swing, if any and he got done by a bad decision. This can in no way be used as barometer to gauge playing conventional swing on Bouncy/quick tracks.

[Vilander]

he did not play for the swing, human error..can happen. but was a critical point in this match as tendu had already departed...with just 'i cant bat anything that swings' dhoni and jaadu coming in

[Cevno]

He was Rampaul's bunny in West Indies too with ball going away from him he kept edging.

[carnish]

The guy got a great 150+ score and we are here saying he is a FTB. No sir, he is not. Sangakkara on the other hand is ... 3 centuries in 3 innings against Bangla tigers.

[King Tendulkar]

sure?

From what i am seeing yes

[The Outsider]

If it was not reversing how Pujara got out then. A little reverse is enough to get a wicket. SRT was finding it hard to negotiate Henrique reverse swing coming in to him.

Tendulkar is hardly a benchmark these days for what is difficult. He finds everything difficult and Pujara was not out.

[saneindian]

No need to run down his knocks because they have been played on easier pitches. Many of us thought he didn't have it in him to even score on these pitches. But he's bounced back in the best possible manner. Not too many Indian players have back to back 150+ scores at home vs easier attacks than this one. So credit where due. His maturity and shot selection have been impressive. Remains to be seen if he can take this form to tougher pitches and be successful.

[Lord]

From what i am seeing yes

hes got shots and is elegant but isnt technically correct.chases wide deliveries n opens the face.did you see his dismisal today?:P

[King Tendulkar]

hes got shots and is elegant but isnt technically correct.chases wide deliveries n opens the face.did you see his dismisal today?:P

Chasing wide deliveries is not techincal fault. That is temperament and shot selction issue. He was not out chasing wide one today??

[Lord]

Chasing wide deliveries is not techincal fault. That is temperament and shot selction issue. He was not out chasing wide one today??

leaving straight one. anyway,these pitches are not great to judge techniques,lets see in SA

[Ram]

Murali Vijay may be a test class batsmen, but he's not a test class opener. Its one thing to show admirable temperament to play back-to-back long innings, which many believe was out of character for Vijay. But in more demanding conditions, it is technique, not temperament that is the crucial factor determining your success as an opener. Even a pitch as placid as this, he was still edging the ball thru slips cordon in the first session. Some times, it is hard to decide how to feel when certain Indian batsmen enjoy test success at home. You want to feel good, celebrate and hope that he will be in a mainstay in our test line-up for a long time. But the nagging reality of the clear weaknesses in the said's batsmen batting makes the pleasure rife with guilt.

[King Tendulkar]

I actually think he looks good. Rather see how he does then have veeru and gambhir opening. Two 150 scores in a row in tests is no joke in any country. Aussie pace attack is only decent thing they have in their team and he bettred them

[Dumbbells]

I would like to see him pull and hook. Can't play on bouncy tracks if u don't have these shots in ur arsenal.

[vvvslaxman]

Murali Vijay may be a test class batsmen, but he's not a test class opener. Its one thing to show admirable temperament to play back-to-back long innings, which many believe was out of character for Vijay. But in more demanding conditions, it is technique, not temperament that is the crucial factor determining your success as an opener. Even a pitch as placid as this, he was still edging the ball thru slips cordon in the first session. Some times, it is hard to decide how to feel when certain Indian batsmen enjoy test success at home. You want to feel good, celebrate and hope that he will be in a mainstay in our test line-up for a long time. But the nagging reality of the clear weaknesses in the said's batsmen batting makes the pleasure rife with guilt.

Good point is he looks solid when he meets the ball. He looks stable. Some batsmen even when they middle look off balanced. That is a plus he has. He has this age old weaknesses Indian batsmen have. Corridor of uncertainty outside the off stump. I don't think anyone other than Dravid has mastered the art of leaving in the last 20 years. Pujara is on his way. Vijay has to work on this area. He has to get out of Chepauk to master this. Sehwag had gifted hand eye coordination so he was able to hide this weakness on most surfaces. Tendulkar excellent backfoot player on the off side. Others are so so. Remember Wasim Jaffer who got owned 5 times by lee mostly in identical fashion outside the off stump. Karthik also had his issues with dangling the bat outside the off stump. Kohli has this problem. Raina has this problem. Yuvraj has this problem. Only Pujara looks more assured . There were tons of guys in the 80s who had the same problem. You can have so many short comings. But when you tour countries like England, SA, Australia most important thing you need is good game plan outside the off stump.

[carnish]

Vijay will do good in tests. We just need to give him a little rope and not just change our openers if and when they fail in one or two tests just to bring back the oldies. These players(dhawan and vijay) needs to be backed as they are our long term prospects. Same goes for Rahane, Rohit and Mukund. All of them them should be kept in the mix. Exciting times ahead for Indian cricket. I just hope that these players get sent to South Africa for the A tour before actually going there for tests.