Lord Posted July 1, 2013 Posted July 1, 2013 Just get in Sehwag somehow' date=' somewhere. [/quote'] I loved him,but hes finished now.Accept it:((
The Outsider Posted July 1, 2013 Posted July 1, 2013 I loved him' date='but hes finished now.Accept it:(([/quote'] He is too good a player to be discarded without giving a chance in the middle order. I would take a 50 year old Sehwag over Rohit, Rahane, and Jadeja one of whom will be batting at number 6.
saneindian Posted July 1, 2013 Posted July 1, 2013 Till the time Dhoni is in the test side, the demands for recall of Sehwag, Gambhir, Zaheer will continue. The day he walks away or gets dropped (looking very difficult now), there would be a clamor for a complete overhaul and calls for picking youngsters only.
Detonator Posted July 1, 2013 Posted July 1, 2013 Vijay (Hope he does well ) Dhawan ( He WILL perfrom :proud: ) Pujara (ditto as above :proud: ) Rahane (GOD will snatch this place anyway :(( ) :hahaha: Kohli :hehe: Dhoni :two_thumbs_up: Jadeja :hail: :hail: Ashwin (perfrom or :bumsmack: ) Bhuvi ( all the best ) Yadav ( he suits will for SA pitches :agree: ) Shami ( you have my full support :om: :om: )
Sidhoni Posted July 1, 2013 Posted July 1, 2013 Yeah. In SA' date=' it does not matter how good a batsman you are, you are bound to struggle against new ball if you are facing likes of Steyn, Philander, and Morkel. I want our best batsmen at 4, 5, 6 rather than top 3. Karthik has experience of SA too.[/quote'] He has to be ready for the challenge in all conditions if he has to be successful at 3. By that logic, given the form Dhawan is in, you might also want him to bat in middle order so that he doesn't face the new ball.
Sidhoni Posted July 1, 2013 Posted July 1, 2013 Till the time Dhoni is in the test side' date=' the demands for recall of Sehwag, Gambhir, Zaheer will continue. The day he walks away or gets dropped (looking very difficult now), there would be a clamor for a complete overhaul and calls for picking youngsters only.[/quote'] Dhoni isn't the same age as Sehwag/Zak. Our ODI unit has anyway gone through an overhaul of sorts with Dhoni being senior-most at 31. Retirement of Sachin and soon we will see Dhoni being senior-most in Tests too.
FischerTal Posted July 1, 2013 Posted July 1, 2013 Dhoni isn't the same age as Sehwag/Zak. Our ODI unit has anyway gone through an overhaul of sorts with Dhoni being senior-most at 31. Retirement of Sachin and soon we will see Dhoni being senior-most in Tests too. dont you think dhoni should give up tests to focus on ODIs and T20s?
Sidhoni Posted July 1, 2013 Posted July 1, 2013 He is too good a player to be discarded without giving a chance in the middle order. I would take a 50 year old Sehwag over Rohit' date= Rahane, and Jadeja one of whom will be batting at number 6. And they say Dhoni fans talk senselessly.
The Outsider Posted July 1, 2013 Posted July 1, 2013 ^ by that age' date=' Sehwag will be wearing bifocals [/quote'] Huh? It's a manner of speaking called hyperbole which should be easy to identify. Just to clarify that me post meant that even a washed up Sehwag(I don't think he is even washed up if played in the middle order) is better than the replacements on offer.
Sidhoni Posted July 1, 2013 Posted July 1, 2013 Huh? It's a manner of speaking called hyperbole which should be easy to identify. Just to clarify that me post meant that even a washed up Sehwag(I don't think he is even washed up if played in the middle order) is better than the replacements on offer. I understood that you didn't mean it. But I fail to see why you wold give an out of form Sehwag a chance in the pace where he hasn't batted for ages ahead of young guys like Rohit and Rahane who haven't even batted there and moreover, guys who we need to groom for the future.
FischerTal Posted July 1, 2013 Posted July 1, 2013 Huh? It's a manner of speaking called hyperbole which should be easy to identify. Just to clarify that me post meant that even a washed up Sehwag(I don't think he is even washed up if played in the middle order) is better than the replacements on offer. everyone knew that :secret:
The Outsider Posted July 1, 2013 Posted July 1, 2013 I understood that you didn't mean it. But I fail to see why you wold give an out of form Sehwag a chance in the pace where he hasn't batted for ages ahead of young guys like Rohit and Rahane who haven't even batted there and moreover' date=' guys who we need to groom for the future.[/quote'] Because Sehwag is Sehwag. You won't find a single opener in the 130 year old history of cricket with the kind of destructive record he has - he is to opening what Gilchrist is to keeping. He was never an opener to begin with and now that his reflexes might have slowed down for a new ball and fresh pitch, he certainly deserves a 4-5 test run in the middle order, where he initially started off his career.
saneindian Posted July 1, 2013 Posted July 1, 2013 Because Sehwag is Sehwag. You won't find a single opener in the 130 year old history of cricket with the kind of destructive record he has - he is to opening what Gilchrist is to keeping. He was never an opener to begin with and now that his reflexes might have slowed down for a new ball and fresh pitch' date=' he certainly deserves a 4-5 test run in the middle order, where he initially started off his career.[/quote'] He has his chance in the domestic cricket. Get fitter, play in the middle order for Delhi / North Zone and score runs, will get picked. However going by past history, he's hardly done anything in domestic cricket when he's been struggling for form and looks like history will repeat itself. Would be more than happy to eat my words though.
The Outsider Posted July 1, 2013 Posted July 1, 2013 He has his chance in the domestic cricket. Get fitter, play in the middle order for Delhi / North Zone and score runs, will get picked. However going by past history, he's hardly done anything in domestic cricket when he's been struggling for form and looks like history will repeat itself. Would be more than happy to eat my words though. The problem is that he does not give a feck about domestic cricket. There were similar threads and posts before the '07-'08 series to Australia and when Sehwag was finally selected after the initial list there was an uproar that he can't even score against Himachal Pradesh, what will he do in Australia. Well we all saw what he did there. I am not saying your argument is wrong in general, just that it's not applicable to Sehwag in particular.
saneindian Posted July 1, 2013 Posted July 1, 2013 The key difference is in 2007-08 Sehwag was 29-30, now he's 35 with slower reflexes, perhaps twice the fat he had back then and dare I say very limited motivation. Unless he scores a lot of runs, difficult to see a comeback for him.
putrevus Posted July 1, 2013 Posted July 1, 2013 If Sehwag clicks in the middle order (if plays in the middle order I would play him at no 5 and Kohli at no 6) he will playing mostly when ball is old and bowlers are little bit tired he can take away the game from any team. The question is can he become fit and doesn't become a liability on the field and he is far better slip catcher than any of new comers.
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